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Offline jman123

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Offline Ambrose

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« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2013, 12:51:26 AM »
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    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/06/17/marriage-trends-demographics/2424641/


    What do we expect, very few grasp what marriage means anymore.  
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    « Reply #2 on: June 18, 2013, 01:06:54 AM »
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  • I think the problem is arrogance.  People don't want to feel that other people's lives are more important than their own.  Having a few kids with different partners and moving around is totally accepted.  Casual sɛҳuąƖ relationships is embraced today.

    I worry all the time how the America can possibly reverse it's moral decay with regards to the family and still keeps our freedom.

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    « Reply #3 on: June 18, 2013, 01:35:45 AM »
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    I think the problem is arrogance.  People don't want to feel that other people's lives are more important than their own.  Having a few kids with different partners and moving around is totally accepted.  Casual sɛҳuąƖ relationships is embraced today.

    I worry all the time how the America can possibly reverse it's moral decay with regards to the family and still keeps our freedom.


    Arrogance may be a rotten fruit, but the cause at least among Catholics is the fact that the have not been taught the truth, and have not been nourished by Our Lord at the true Mass.

    Catholics in the better days of the Church, were taught what marriage was by their priests and they believed it. The Conciliar church teaches them nothing and it shows.
    The Council of Trent, The Catechism of the Council of Trent, Papal Teaching, The Teaching of the Holy Office, The Teaching of the Church Fathers, The Code of Canon Law, Countless approved catechisms, The Doctors of the Church, The teaching of the Dogmatic

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    « Reply #4 on: June 18, 2013, 01:48:24 AM »
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    I think the problem is arrogance.  People don't want to feel that other people's lives are more important than their own.  Having a few kids with different partners and moving around is totally accepted.  Casual sɛҳuąƖ relationships is embraced today.

    I worry all the time how the America can possibly reverse it's moral decay with regards to the family and still keeps our freedom.


    Arrogance may be a rotten fruit, but the cause at least among Catholics is the fact that the have not been taught the truth, and have not been nourished by Our Lord at the true Mass.

    Catholics in the better days of the Church, were taught what marriage was by their priests and they believed it. The Conciliar church teaches them nothing and it shows.


    They also saw it which many people today have never seen.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 18, 2013, 07:15:51 PM »
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  • Marriage is nothing but a "piece of paper" to the majority for Americans.
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    « Reply #6 on: June 18, 2013, 07:53:37 PM »
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    Marriage is nothing but a "piece of paper" to the majority for Americans.


    Truly.

    Upon converting I was having a conversation with an older woman whom I looked up to. She said, "you've always had a lot of sense, so surely you would have enough sense to know that just because the Catholic Church says you can't divorce, doesn't mean you shouldn't. If you need to get out of a bad marriage, it is your right."

    Out of all the marriage wisdom she could have given me, she mentions that first. What?   :facepalm:

    Marriage is gone into very flippantly these days. Easy come, easy go. If only people truly understood what an abomination divorce is.
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    « Reply #7 on: June 18, 2013, 09:20:45 PM »
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  • What a tragedy that good, long-lived marriages are virtually unknown.  When I tell my allegedly Christian colleagues that my parents will celebrate their 58th anniversary on June 28, they are incapable of comprehension.  One woman retorted, "Can you imagine being stuck with the SAME guy all those years?"  
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    « Reply #8 on: June 18, 2013, 09:26:22 PM »
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    just because the Catholic Church says you can't divorce, doesn't mean you shouldn't.


    She mentioned that right away because feminism is a religion.


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    « Reply #9 on: June 18, 2013, 09:44:47 PM »
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    just because the Catholic Church says you can't divorce, doesn't mean you shouldn't.


    She mentioned that right away because feminism is a religion.



    Sadly, yes.
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    « Reply #10 on: June 18, 2013, 10:09:00 PM »
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    One woman retorted, "Can you imagine being stuck with the SAME guy all those years?"  


    Yeah well, it's not easy to maintain those wonderful, tender loving feelings day in day out.  Men have to put up with hormonal shifts and women have to endure insensitivity.  But it's a struggle for both parties and the good news is that marriage is not based on feelings but committment.

    The quote reminds me of something that happened to me last summer.  I took my elderly mother to the surgeon to discuss her knee replacement.  During the exam she started complaining to the doctor about my father, how rotten of a husband he was, how she suffered, his character flaws......the doctor just looked at her and said "Well I'm sure living with you was no picnic either."  I seriously had to bite my lip to stiffle a laugh.


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    « Reply #11 on: June 19, 2013, 12:50:24 AM »
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  • I think one of the biggest reasons for the decline of marriage is feminism. This evil has destroyed the home, family, society, and frankly, the whole world. As women go, so goes society. Men do whatever is necessary to have frequent and convenient access to sex. If women insist on marriage, men marry. Women hold the power of setting societal standards.

    Also, the sacrament of HOLY MATRIMONY is not properly honored anymore. In the secular world, divorce is an easy way out of a life -time commitment. When you marry, it is supposed to be UNTIL DEATH do you apart. End of story. You better make it work. Aside sentimentality, the first and foremost purpose of marriage is the upbringing of children, soldiers of Christ, and the propagation of the human race. There is too much focus on "love", or the ideal marriage, which do not exist. Sentimentality that just gives people false expectations, which lead to great disappointments.

    Truth is, marriage has lost its spiritual meaning. People do not wish to commit anymore to anything nor anyone. Another symptom of this society we live in, which is dominated by narcissism, individualism, consumerism, materialism, and moral relativism.
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    « Reply #12 on: June 19, 2013, 04:53:54 PM »
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  • Another reason is that the gov't/s promote it.  If paper work shows that you are single/with a child, more benefits.  Single and pregnant, baby is delivered by the state medical.  The elderly play the game too.  Other countries are paying couples not to marry, now how is that?  They can pay up to $2,000 in american dollars.  We have a lot  of immigrants who know how the play the benefit game.

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    « Reply #13 on: June 19, 2013, 07:03:05 PM »
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    Another reason is that the gov't/s promote it.  If paper work shows that you are single/with a child, more benefits.  Single and pregnant, baby is delivered by the state medical.  The elderly play the game too.  Other countries are paying couples not to marry, now how is that?  They can pay up to $2,000 in american dollars.  We have a lot  of immigrants who know how the play the benefit game.


    Actually CHIP/medicaid was expanded by Bush to cover higher than poverty level incomes.  Many married families have medicaid/chip for the wife when pregnant and always for the children.