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Offline tradlover

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« on: November 14, 2011, 04:23:57 PM »
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  • let me be a devil's advocate here.

     why is the marriage bond not broken by the mutual consent of the parties?  Say the husband is found to be unfaithful by the wife and the husband says he does not love her anymore and that he wishes to leave and divorce. The wife agrees since she was cheated on.

     Why can't the wife remarry again?

    Explain theologically.


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    « Reply #1 on: November 14, 2011, 04:25:30 PM »
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  • Quote from: tradlover
    let me be a devil's advocate here.

     why is the marriage bond not broken by the mutual consent of the parties?  Say the husband is found to be unfaithful by the wife and the husband says he does not love her anymore and that he wishes to leave and divorce. The wife agrees since she was cheated on.

     Why can't the wife remarry again?

    Explain theologically.


    What is there to explain?  The woman promised to reserve herself for her husband and forsake all others until death.  Our Lord says marriage is indissoluble.  There is nothing to discuss.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 14, 2011, 06:29:25 PM »
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  • It is true that rejection is worse than death!  It is agonizing.  The catholic church believes in the forgiveness of sin.  So, the job of the wife in this case has much praying to do for herself and her husband who remains her husband.  For if he decides to come back, and being remorse, the wife is there with the Supernatural help to forgive, known as Grace.  The wife's job is a heavy cross to bear in the mean time and I recommend many sacraments and 3 rosaries a day for strength to carry you through your days.  songbird

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    « Reply #3 on: November 14, 2011, 10:42:35 PM »
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  • Tele is right on this. So I'll just add the dogmatic decrees.

    I prefer the denzinger translation over the one I like to cut and paste so I'll type it out. Any spelling errors are my own.

    Council of Trent Session 24

    Canon 4: If anyone says that the bond of matrimony can be dissolved because of heresy, or grievous cohabitation, or voluntary absence from the spouse: Let him be anathema.

    Canon 7: If anyone says that the Church errs, inasmuch as she has taught and still teaches that in accordance with evanglical and apostolic doctrine [Matt. 10: 1 Cor. 7] the bond of matrimony cannot be dissolved because of adultery of one of the married persons, and that both, or even the innocent one, who has given no occasion for adultery, cannot during the lifetime of the other contract another marriage, and that he, who after the dismissal of the adulteress shall marry another, is guilty of adultery, and that she also, who after the dismissal of the adulterer shall marry another: Let him be anathema.

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    « Reply #4 on: November 15, 2011, 12:15:26 AM »
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  • I'm sure there is a good explanation for this, but in the Sermon on the Mount, Christ says:  

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    "But I say to you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, excepting for the cause of fornication, maketh her to commit adultery: and he that shall marry her that is put away, committeth adultery."


    How does this square with forbidding divorce due to adultery?  I accept what the Church has taught, of course, I just haven't heard the explanation of this passage that makes me understand it properly.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 15, 2011, 01:09:59 AM »
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  • Ver. 32. Excepting the cause of fornication. A divorce or separation as to bed and board, may be permitted for some weighty causes in Christian marriages; but even then, he that marrieth her that is dismissed, commits adultery. As to this, there is no exception. The bond of marriage is perpetual; and what God hath joined, no power on earth can separate. See again Matthew xix. 9. (Witham) --- The knot of marriage is so sacred a tie, that the separation of the parties cannot loosen it, it being not lawful for either of the parties to marry again upon a divorce. (St. Augustine, de bon. conjug. chap. vii.) (Bristow)