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Offline Cera

Re: Mark of the beast
« Reply #25 on: October 07, 2018, 04:23:09 PM »
Quote from: Vintagewife3 on October 06, 2018, 03:27:46 PM
I mean understand that... I just didn’t expect it to come in a chip?... I might be wording it wrong.
How can a chip be a sign of the mark of the beast? If you got the chip because it was the only way to feed your babies, but you were a devout Catholic would you still be in trouble? Or am I being to literal?
Re-read the words in the Bible, posted earlier. Those who refuse to take the mark of the beast will not be able to buy or sell. Many people who are not able to buy food or water will not have food or water to give to their babies.
It will be a difficult choice, just as it was for the early Christian martyrs. Many people will rationalize and deceive themselves into thinking "God will understand," and will take the mark of the beast.
 INHO, this mark will clearly be part of the satanic one-world religion, economy and political system. How many early Christian martyrs died because they refused to offer a handful of grain to a false pagan god? Others rationalized that they had to do so in order to feed their children, perhaps making a "mental reservation." In so doing, they denied Christ.
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Offline Nadir

Re: Mark of the beast
« Reply #26 on: October 07, 2018, 09:31:27 PM »
Quote from: Cera on October 07, 2018, 04:23:09 PM
How many early Christian martyrs died because they refused to offer a handful of grain to a false pagan god? Others rationalized that they had to do so in order to feed their children, perhaps making a "mental reservation." In so doing, they denied Christ.
Well said, Cera! And many of those were parents who were concerned for their children. But God does not abandon his own.
Here are a couple of examples of such mothers in the early church:

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When St Cyricus was martyred at 3, along with his mother, St Julitta, under Diocletian, her two servants took flight, and she had to bring her small son with her.
 
 At the sight of his mother’s tortures, Cyricus began to shed tears. Prefect Alexander tried to quiet him with caresses and kind words. But he scratched Alexander’s face with his nails, crying out, “I am a Christian!”
 
Astonished, the prefect asked him who had taught him to speak. Cyricus answered, “Thy lack of wit is a wonder to me, that seeing my age, you need ask who instructed me in the knowledge of the true God! I am a Christian!” The Holy Ghost inspired a toddler to declare, “I am a Christian.” Enraged, Alexander hurled the child down, dashing his head on the steps and killing him.
 
His mother joyfully gave thanks to God that Cyricus had gone before her into heaven. She did not have to wonder, “What will happen to my boy? Will he grow up to reject the true Faith?” God provided for her son in a better way than she could have, insuring that they would not be separated in death. She herself was then flayed, plunged in boiling pitch, and at last beheaded.
 
 St Cyricus is the St Cyr found in several French place names.
 

Sts Perpetua and Felicity also have a tale to tell.  


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Under Septimus Severus,  the dark and oppressive atmosphere of the prison frightened 22 year old Perpetua, and her terror was increased by anxiety for her child. Two deacons succeeded in gaining admittance to the imprisoned Christians and helped alleviate their sufferings. Perpetua's mother brought her little son, whom she was permitted to nurse and retain in prison with her.
 
St Felicity was in her 8th month. As the law forbad execution of a pregnant woman, she feared her death would be postponed, so she and her companions prayed and Felicity went into labor and brought forth a little girl whom a sister adopted.
 
Perpetua and Felicity went to the amphitheater "joyfully as though on their way to heaven" and Perpetua sang a psalm of triumph.  They were scourged, a wild heifer were set on them, and then were put to the sword. They died in Carthage, Tunisia, in 203 AD. The Basilica Majorum was erected over their tomb.

 God strengthened Sts. Perpetua and Felicity to staunchly resist, for the cause of Christ, the claims of human affection, thus winning the palm of victory.
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Offline King Wenceslas

Re: Mark of the beast
« Reply #27 on: October 08, 2018, 11:23:05 AM »
The mark of the beast is:

1. The mark on the forehead means one has given oneself intellectually to this day and age and therefore works for the beast, Satan.

2. The mark on the hand means the work done by the hands is done only to accuмulate material goods and leads to material enslavement. The person works only for his gratification. A person also uses his marked hands for satisfaction of his passions and thus lives in inpurity and becomes a hedonist.

This day and age is the age of the "mark of the beast" since almost everyone is now following the beast.


"The masses in highly industrialized countries like England, the United States, or France are largely de-Christianized. Technology, and the way of life it produces, undermines Christianity far more effectively than do violent measures." -   --  Czeslaw Milosz
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Offline Cera

Re: Mark of the beast
« Reply #28 on: October 08, 2018, 06:16:09 PM »
Quote from: Nadir on October 07, 2018, 09:31:27 PM
Well said, Cera! And many of those were parents who were concerned for their children. But God does not abandon his own.
Here are a couple of examples of such mothers in the early church:

Sts Perpetua and Felicity also have a tale to tell.  
Thank you, Nadir. Let us pray for such grace of final perseverance.
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Offline Quid Retribuam Domino

Re: Mark of the beast
« Reply #29 on: October 16, 2018, 01:55:04 PM »
We can infer from Apocalypse of St. John 19:20 that not everyone will have the character ("mark") of the beast on their foreheads or right hands, or not everyone (if everyone is still forced to have it) who has the character will adore the image of the beast. The elect in Christ will either avoid taking on their person (forehead or right hand) the character, or if they're still forced to have it, they won't adore the beast's image.

And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet, who wrought signs before him, wherewith he seduced them who received the character of the beast, and who adored his image. These two were cast alive into the pool of fire, burning with brimstone. ~ Apocalypse of St. John 19:20
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