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MARIE ANTOINETTE
« on: October 16, 2018, 11:07:41 AM »
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    • The Catholic Queen of France-- who never said 'Let Em Eat Cake' -- is executed on Oct 16 1793 :cussing:
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    Re: MARIE ANTOINETTE
    « Reply #1 on: October 16, 2018, 12:46:43 PM »
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    • Our beautiful Austrian Princess... we should have obliterated the French for what they did to her! There is no better time to overrun a country than when they are deeply divided and slaughtering eachother, like America did with Mexico.
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    Re: MARIE ANTOINETTE
    « Reply #2 on: October 16, 2018, 01:01:43 PM »
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    • The 'French' did not execute Marie Antoinette... :confused:

    and BTW-- the 'French' WERE obliterated...
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    Re: MARIE ANTOINETTE
    « Reply #3 on: October 16, 2018, 01:16:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: roscoe on October 16, 2018, 01:01:43 PM
    The 'French' did not execute Marie Antoinette... :confused:

    and BTW-- the 'French' WERE obliterated...

    Hmm, if you consider the ruling family and their supporters as "The French", then yes I must agree with you. But if one would refer to the revolutionary usurpers as "The French", they could have been dealt with early on and there may have been less damage to chriestendome over the course of the 1800s. 
        According to "Austrians: A thousand year odyssey" by Gordon Brook Shepherd, the Emperor really did consider invading France when he was told his sister was guillotined. I don't remember what made him decide against it though. Haven't read that book in ages.
    Please correct me if this train of thought is wrong/wouldn't work.
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    Re: MARIE ANTOINETTE
    « Reply #4 on: October 16, 2018, 02:03:56 PM »
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    • At Rianjo, Spain in August 1931, Our Lord communicated to Sister Lucy His dissatisfaction with the Pope’s and the Catholic bishops’ failure to obey His command to consecrate Russia. He said:
     Make it known to My ministers, given that they follow the example of the King of France in delaying the execution of My requests, they will follow him into misfortune. It is never too late to have recourse to Jesus and Mary.
     In another text Lucy wrote that Our Lord complained to her:
     They did not wish to heed My request! Like the King of France they will repent of it, and they will do it, but it will be late. Russia will have already spread its errors in the world, provoking wars and persecutions against the Church. The Holy Father will have much to suffer.
     The reference by Jesus to the King of France’s disobedience and punishment is as follows:
     On June 17, 1689 the Sacred Heart of Jesus manifested to Saint Margaret Mary Alacoque His command to the King of France [Louis XIV] that the King was to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart. For 100 years to the day the Kings of France delayed, and did not obey.
     So on June 17, 1789 the King of France was stripped of his legislative authority by the upstart Third Estate, and four years later the soldiers of the French Revolution executed the King of France as if he were a criminal.
     In 1793 France sent its King, Louis XVI, to the guillotine. He and his predecessors had failed to obey Our Lord’s request that France be consecrated to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, and thus misfortune had befallen both the King and his country.
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    Re: MARIE ANTOINETTE
    « Reply #5 on: October 16, 2018, 07:14:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Student of Qi on October 16, 2018, 01:16:20 PM
    Hmm, if you consider the ruling family and their supporters as "The French", then yes I must agree with you. But if one would refer to the revolutionary usurpers as "The French", they could have been dealt with early on and there may have been less damage to chriestendome over the course of the 1800s.
        According to "Austrians: A thousand year odyssey" by Gordon Brook Shepherd, the Emperor really did consider invading France when he was told his sister was guillotined. I don't remember what made him decide against it though. Haven't read that book in ages.
    Please correct me if this train of thought is wrong/wouldn't work.
    Joseph may have 'considered' invading France: the accepted story is that Danton bought off the Mason Brunswick and no action was taken... :cheers:
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    Re: MARIE ANTOINETTE
    « Reply #6 on: October 16, 2018, 07:17:18 PM »
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    • Quote from: klasG4e on October 16, 2018, 02:03:56 PM
    At Rianjo, Spain in August 1931, Our Lord communicated to Sister Lucy His dissatisfaction with the Pope’s and the Catholic bishops’ failure to obey His command to consecrate Russia. He said:
     Make it known to My ministers, given that they follow the example of the King of France in delaying the execution of My requests, they will follow him into misfortune. It is never too late to have recourse to Jesus and Mary.
     In another text Lucy wrote that Our Lord complained to her:
     They did not wish to heed My request! Like the King of France they will repent of it, and they will do it, but it will be late. Russia will have already spread its errors in the world, provoking wars and persecutions against the Church. The Holy Father will have much to suffer.
     The reference by Jesus to the King of France’s disobedience and punishment is as follows:
     On June 17, 1689 the Sacred Heart of Jesus manifested to Saint Margaret Mary Alacoque His command to the King of France [Louis XIV] that the King was to consecrate France to the Sacred Heart. For 100 years to the day the Kings of France delayed, and did not obey.
     So on June 17, 1789 the King of France was stripped of his legislative authority by the upstart Third Estate, and four years later the soldiers of the French Revolution executed the King of France as if he were a criminal.
     In 1793 France sent its King, Louis XVI, to the guillotine. He and his predecessors had failed to obey Our Lord’s request that France be consecrated to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, and thus misfortune had befallen both the King and his country.
    Marian idolatry as understood by Gruner... -- I will believe Pius XII before any of you. :cheers:
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    Re: MARIE ANTOINETTE
    « Reply #7 on: October 16, 2018, 11:20:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: roscoe on October 16, 2018, 07:17:18 PM
    Marian idolatry as understood by Gruner... -- I will believe Pius XII before any of you. :cheers:
    He also said something similar to Josefa Menendez.
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    Re: MARIE ANTOINETTE
    « Reply #8 on: October 17, 2018, 10:06:40 AM »
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    • Quote from: roscoe on October 16, 2018, 07:17:18 PM
    Marian idolatry as understood by Gruner... -- I will believe Pius XII before any of you. :cheers:
    Why did Pius XII refuse to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary?
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    Re: MARIE ANTOINETTE
    « Reply #9 on: October 17, 2018, 11:39:28 AM »
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    • IF what you say is true, you would have to ask him... :chef:
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    Re: MARIE ANTOINETTE
    « Reply #10 on: October 17, 2018, 12:49:05 PM »
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    • Quote from: klasG4e on October 17, 2018, 10:06:40 AM
    Why did Pius XII refuse to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary?
    He did!
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    Re: MARIE ANTOINETTE
    « Reply #11 on: October 17, 2018, 12:58:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: klasG4e on October 17, 2018, 10:06:40 AM
    Why did Pius XII refuse to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary?
    Pope Pius XII in October 1942 performed the Consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary for the entire world, and in July 1952 he specifically consecrated the Peoples of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by his apostolic letter Sacro Vergente Anno. Pope Pius XII stated: “..... a few years ago We consecrated the entire human race to the Immaculate Heart of the Virgin Mary, Mother of God, so today We consecrate and in a most special manner We entrust all the peoples of Russia to this Immaculate Heart”
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    Re: MARIE ANTOINETTE
    « Reply #12 on: October 17, 2018, 01:21:55 PM »
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    •  :cheers:
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    Re: MARIE ANTOINETTE
    « Reply #13 on: October 17, 2018, 03:29:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Recusant Sede on October 17, 2018, 12:58:29 PM
    Pope Pius XII in October 1942 performed the Consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary for the entire world, and in July 1952 he specifically consecrated the Peoples of Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary by his apostolic letter Sacro Vergente Anno. Pope Pius XII stated: “..... a few years ago We consecrated the entire human race to the Immaculate Heart of the Virgin Mary, Mother of God, so today We consecrate and in a most special manner We entrust all the peoples of Russia to this Immaculate Heart”

    Why did Pius XII refuse to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary in the manner prescribed by the BVM?
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