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Maria Valtorta and her Poem of the Man-God
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2014, 11:55:35 PM »
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    As regards the endorsement of the medjugorje "seers", have you considered that their endorsement could be a ploy of satan to turn people away from the revelation?




    Honestly? No.  Look you seem a big fan of the Poem thats fine I certainly am not going to change your mind.  Perhaps trite was the wrong word, maybe 'horizontal' is a better word I am looking for.  I can think of a few books off the top of my head on Our Lord on my reading list that sound much more promising to get to know and love him more:

    1. Fr Faber, Precious Blood, At the Foot of the Cross, Bethlehem, ...
    2. Frank J Sheed, To Know Christ Jesus
    3. Fr Garrigou-Lagrange OP, The Love of God and the Cross of Jesus, Our Saviour and His Love for Us, Christ the Saviour ...
    4. Did I mention Fr Faber? :)

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    My thoughts exactly.

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    Maria Valtorta and her Poem of the Man-God
    « Reply #16 on: March 19, 2014, 12:25:12 AM »
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  • The Blessed Virgin Mary has visited the earth many times so as to be seen and heard by priviedged but always humble folk, but never has she seen fit to run off at the mouth about Lucifer like Maria Valtorta or her minders claim.

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    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

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    Maria Valtorta and her Poem of the Man-God
    « Reply #17 on: March 19, 2014, 12:35:52 AM »
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    Tradition in Action, where the original post is from, is run by Catholic scholars who are very accurate in what they say.

    As for EWTN - that is NO endorsement at all.

    I watched EWTN and "mother Angelica" on Television and listened on Short Wave Radio to them for over 15 years ending a couple of years after Angelica was struck down, I believe, as punishment from God for her endorsing every V2 lie that came down the road and claiming that it was pre-conciliar truly Traditional Catholic. She never missed an opportunity to bad mouth His Excellency Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and claimed that every and all Traditional Catholics and Traditional Catholic movements, unless they were endorsed by the Novus Ordo sect, was rank heresy going to hell. She particularly singled out Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the SSPX for her hatred. She endorsed every looney tune Charismatic with every imaginable "message" that proclaimed every heresy that the real Church had condemned through the ages as a new sudden revelation. As for Benedict Groeschel, see below in the article about EWTN, in addition to what they say about him, he always defended the pederast "bishops."

    Our Lord Jesus Christ said:

    Matthew 24:
    24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.
    25 Behold I have told it to you, beforehand.
    26 If therefore they shall say to you: Behold he is in the desert, go ye not out: Behold he is in the closets, believe it not


    - See the below, it very accurately describes "mother Angelica" and EWTN to a tee:

    EWTN, Mother Angelica and the Charismatic Movement Exposed

    EWTN, Mother Angelica and the Charismatic Movement Exposed

    The Eternal Word Television Network (EWTN) is the dominant Vatican II so called Catholic religious television and radio network in the United States. Founded by Mother Angelica in the early 1980s, it is headquartered in Irondale, Alabama. The network is operated by a Vatican II Franciscan order. EWTN's programming consists of shows of many different genres, such as talk shows, docuмentaries, newscasts, music, and live broadcasts from the Vatican. Everyday, there is a Vatican II New Mass broadcast live from Irondale church and monastery. Available in over 200 million television households in more than 140 countries and territories, EWTN Global Network is by far the largest "religious" media network in the world.

    History
     
    Born Rita Rizzo, and reared in Canton, Ohio, Mother Angelica experienced poverty, a broken home, maltreatment, multiple physical ailments, jealously, back stabbing, betrayal—she was even shot at—but nothing could stop her determination.

    In her lifetime, Mother established the Poor Clare Nuns of Perpetual Adoration and gave birth to the Franciscan Friars of the Eternal Word and the Sisters of the Eternal Word. She built the Shrine of the Most Blessed Sacrament, as well as the largest shortwave network in the world and the world's first so called Catholic satellite network.

    There was the time when, at age eleven, she was crossing a street only to see two headlights staring her right in the face. She thought she was dead. Incredibly, she was able to jump high enough that she avoided being hit. The driver called it "a miracle," while Rita and her mother dubbed it a graceful "lifting."
    Her stomach ailments were so bad that she was forced to wear a corset. The doctors tried to help, but to little avail. Then she met an alleged stigmatic, Rhoda Wise, and that's when things began to change. One day, when she was 20, a voice told her to get up and walk without the corset, and she did just that. Immediately, her suffering was relieved. Her doctor, of course, insisted it had to with his treatments, but Rita knew better.
    Her mother wasn't too happy when she learned that Rita had decided to enter a Cleveland monastery. After all, she had first been abandoned by her husband, and now her daughter was leaving her as well. But in time she would come to accept it. As for Rita, her failing knees (and the five stories of steps she had to traverse at the monastery), led to her being dispatched back home to Canton.

    After nine years in the cloister, Sister Angelica took her solemn vows. Her legs and her back were so twisted she could hardly walk (she wore a body cast), leading her to beg God to allow her to walk again in exchange for a promise: she would build a monastery in the South. What she wanted was a "Negro apostolate," a cloistered community in service to poor blacks. After undergoing spinal surgery, and after being rebuffed initially by her bishop, she got her way; approval was given to build a monastery in Birmingham.

    In 1978, her life was forever altered when she was introduced to a TV studio in Chicago. Instantly, she got the bug: she had to have one of her own. Then came the first of many disappointments dealing with the so called bishops. When she contacted them about a Catholic TV show, none replied. Undeterred, she secured funding from New York philanthropist Peter Grace, and in 1981 got a young lawyer, Bill Steltemeier, to craft a civil corporation called the Eternal Word Television Network. Bill would remain a loyal and talented ally throughout the tumultuous times to come.

    When word reached Rome that a cloistered abbess was traveling the country in pursuit of her broadcasting dream, she ran into trouble with both American bishops and Vatican II officials. But thanks to "Cardinal" Silvio Oddi, head of the Sacred Congregation for the Clergy, she prevailed.

    It was never easy. Every time Mother Angelica thought she was in the clear, another so called bishop would raise objections to her venture. Indeed, the bishops tried to outdo her by launching their own effort, the "Catholic Telecommunications Network of America" (CTNA). It was clear from the beginning that Mother Angelica was seen as a threat: EWTN had a "traditional" orientation and CTNA took a modernist stance. EWTN won. CTNA collapsed. We will now examine the so called "traditional" message that was broadcasted, and that are still broadcasted, from the so called "Catholic" EWTN Network.

    EWTN: The Global "Catholic" Network and the Charismatic Movement
    "In the chapel, [the Charismatic] Schlemon and the [Charismatic] priest laid hands on Mother, invoking the baptism of the Holy Spirit."1 About a week later "a foreign tongue spilled from Mother Angelica's mouth inexplicably. When Sister Regina came to deliver a glass of orange juice, Mother tried to say thank you, but 'something else came out.'"2

    Mother Angelica, the foundress of the Eternal Word Television Network (EWTN)3
    One of the "conservative" organizations affiliated with the Vatican II sect is EWTN, the global "Catholic" television network. Some misguided people have persuaded themselves and others that EWTN is a strong defender of Catholic truth spreading light to millions in a dark world. However, despite what many think, EWTN is actually a vehicle for some of the worst of the post- Vatican II apostasy. EWTN promoted John Paul II's interreligious apostasy at Assisi, and covered with approval Benedict XVI's apostasy at the ѕуηαgσgυє in Germany, as well as his initiation into Islam in a mosque in Turkey. EWTN promotes the heresy of salvation outside the Church; its show, The Journey Home, treats conversion to the Catholic Faith from Protestant sects as a preference, but not a necessity. This heretical and evil idea, that adhering to Protestant sects which reject the teaching of the true Church doesn't bar one from salvation, is articulated by almost all of the "converts" from Protestantism featured on The Journey Home.

    EWTN's foundress Mother Angelica, who has been one of the most significant figures in the post- Vatican II sect, especially for its more "conservative" members, is someone for us to consider. Speaking about other religions during one show, EWTN foundress Mother Angelica asserted with pure religious indifferentism that we all have the same God. She specifically said: "You call him Allah, and we call him Jesus."

    On another show with Mother Angelica, Alice Von Hildebrand (a frequent guest on EWTN) bluntly asserted that one can get to Heaven as a Buddhist. The way it was stated not only indicated that Buddhists can be saved (which is heresy, of course), but that there is no obligation whatsoever for a Buddhist to be a Catholic. In the face of this tremendous heresy and religious indifferentism, which was asserted right in front of her face, Mother Angelica posed no objection, and even commented with approval. Mother Angelica and EWTN have always been defenders of the heretical teachings of Vatican II.

    Mother Angelica was also an outspoken defender of the worst kind of false ecuмenism, including with Jews. In one show, Mother Angelica and Fr. Benedict Groeschel were discussing the recent death of "Cardinal" John O'Connor. Fr. Groeschel mentioned that the Jews held a Jєωιѕн service in St. Patrick's Cathedral after the death of "Cardinal" John O'Connor. Groeschel, an incredible apostate, thought that the Jєωιѕн service in the Cathedral was a great thing. Mother Angelica also wasted no time in blurting out: "That's awesome!"
    Thus, Mother Angelica held that the worst kind of false ecuмenism – a Jєωιѕн service in St. Patrick's Cathedral itself – is "awesome." These facts, by the way, refute the ridiculous assertion which was made in a book which is cited below: that EWTN supposedly went Modernist only after the departure of Mother Angelica from the reins of power. But even Raymond Arroyo, who wrote the biography for Mother Angelica and is one of her biggest supporters, bluntly admitted that she was a promoter of ecuмenism whose work could therefore be supported by members of non-Catholic religions. "The monastery [under Mother Angelica] had become an ecuмenical touchstone in Birmingham, an inspired project that Protestants, Jews, and Catholics could support. The personality of Mother Angelica made it so."4

    In short, EWTN is a mechanism by which the Devil made post-Vatican II conservative-minded professing Catholics comfortable with the post-Vatican II apostasy.

    In 1980, Mother Angelica went to North Carolina and appeared on the Protestant television network called PTL, which was founded by Assembly of God minister Jim Bakker and his wife, Tammy Faye. "Mother Angelica had appeared on PTL several times throughout 1979, to great acclaim, and was ranked in the polls as an audience favorite… Bakker was so taken with the nun, he dispatched a team of scenic designers to Birmingham to build her first studio set."5

    The fact that a Protestant minister was so impressed with her that he actually sent a team to design her studio demonstrates, once again, that her message was not Catholic, but ecuмenical.

    Mother Angelica was also actively involved in the Charismatic movement, a movement which is quite widespread in the Vatican II sect. The Charismatic movement is a false movement heavily infected with heretical and Protestant tendencies and ideas. On February 11, 1971, "Barbara Schlemon, a charismatic reputed to have the gift of healing, passed through Birmingham and asked Fr. De Grandis [a Charismatic priest] to take her to meet Mother Angelica… In the chapel, Schlemon and the priest laid hands on Mother, invoking the baptism of the Holy Spirit."6

    About a week later "a foreign tongue spilled from Mother Angelica's mouth inexplicably. When Sister Regina came to deliver a glass of orange juice, Mother tried to say thank you, but 'something else came out.'"7
    We must emphasize that this very significant fact is admitted in a biography about Mother Angelica which was written by one of her biggest supporters: the anchor of her network, Raymond Arroyo.

    "On Holy Saturday in 1971, Father De Grandis and Mother prayed over each member of the community. All but one nun experienced the baptism of the Holy Spirit, and everyone received something. Following this experience, Sister Joseph and other nuns believed the Lord began speaking to them. By Easter Sunday, the whole community was 'speaking in tongues.'"8

    Speaking in languages not known by the individual who is speaking them, speaking in gibberish, etc. is very often a sign of diabolical possession. This is especially true when it comes as a result of a Charismatic experience in which one has had hands laid on him or her in order to receive "the spirit." Readers are, of course, perfectly free to take this or leave it: but an individual we know from Massachusetts, who was heavily involved in the Charismatic movement years ago, actually told one of us that he felt a demon enter him after a Charismatic had laid his hand on him at a service. He also told us that, at one Charismatic conference, God allowed him to see a small demon enter a room. Amazed, he followed the demon and waited to see if it would come back out of the room; but the only thing which emerged from the room was the Charismatic "priest" who was about to perform his "healing" service by praying over people. This experience caused this individual to abandon the Charismatic movement.

    Here is another interesting testimony from a person who was heavily involved in the Charismatic movement of the Vatican II church. This testimony is actually quite scary to tell the truth, and it does show to people how heavily involved the devil is in these new age cults.

    "Your conversation with the young man from Texas brought back many memories of my own involvement with the charismatic movement in the Vatican II "Catholic" church - but it involves many Protestant churches as well. As long as one is able to "speak in tongues" he is most accepted - with open arms - into this most dangerous and spiritually unsound movement. It places unspiritual emphasis on physical healing… When you join you are "coming under the power" a practice which is performed often on you - which causes you to swoon, faint slump down, and remain unconscious for several seconds or longer. Hypnotic suggestions opens one up to either pretended or demonically energized results which parallel those of the occult. The last meeting I attended finally opened my eyes to how dangerous and totally of the devil this movement is. Was sitting in the back of a room that was rented inside a hotel for this particular meeting. As it got started this women jumped up and started speaking in this most frightening, gibberish language. Then everyone else started to do the same - this endless screaming and chanting - which seemed to go on forever - and then there was dead silence with everyone dropping their heads as in a trace. My friend and I were witnessing this, (and hardly believing what we were seeing), from the back of the room. The coldness in the air cut through us like a knife. We knew we had to get out of there - and fast!! We could hardly make it out of our chairs - our legs felt like lead. We managed to get to the exit door and as I turned my head to look back, ( and to this day I'll never know why I did ), EVERYONE in that room was staring straight at us. This dead zombie like stare!! Then they started SCREAMING "get thee behind me Satan" over and over and over again. The last thing I remember before darting out the door was a slight cloud of smoke coming up from the floor in the front of that room.

    "Through the grace of God I was able to break free from this most dangerous cult and then many years later, through your ministry, find the True Catholic Church. The devil prowls around the world like a roaring lion seeking the ruin of souls. He attempts to lay countless traps to ensnare us into the pit of darkness and lukewarmness. What a comfort to know we can rely upon the intercession of Our Most Holy Queen and Mother to help us to resist the wiles of the ancient adversary and his minions, especially by "fleeing from" and withdrawing as far as is possible from a culture that is diabolically demonic. My prayers will be with this young man in hopes that he will "seek and find" the True Catholic Faith."

    We believe that God allows the Devil to take people over in these Charismatic services because by partaking in them people are essentially saying that the sacraments of the Catholic Church, the seven instituted by Jesus Christ, are not sufficient. They are professing, therefore, that they need a new set of man-made rites – rites which are outside the sacramental system – in order to really receive "the spirit." By participation in such "rites," they are essentially participating in a new religion in order to gain access to "the spirit" outside the means specifically set up by Christ. As a consequence, these Charismatic "rites" become new "sacraments" of a false religion which give access to the evil, not the Holy, spirit.

    It should be emphasized that the laying on of hands is present throughout the New Testament as the matter for the Sacrament of Confirmation (e.g. Acts 8:17; Acts 19:6) – a sacrament instituted by Jesus Christ. It's ironic that in the new "Confirmation" in the Vatican II sect the laying on of hands has been abolished, but Charismatics continue to use the laying on of hands in their own services in order to transmit "the spirit." Since we know that their laying on of hands in an attempt to transmit the "spirit" is not the Sacrament of Confirmation (for even women and laymen do it), it is actually the Counter Confirmation – a false sacrament which therefore gives access, once again, not to the Holy, but to the evil spirit.

    So, as a worthy recipient of the Sacrament of Confirmation receives a deeper endowment of the Holy Ghost, the active participation in such new "rites" or "sacraments" of the false Charismatic religion – by partaking in things such as the laying on of hands – gives these unfortunate individuals a deep endowment of the evil spirit. That's why at many of these Charismatic meetings the "Catholics" actually find themselves oinking like pigs, barking like dogs, and breaking out into outrageously uncontrollable laughter. These things, especially oinking like pigs and barking like dogs, are clear signs of demonic possession.

    We make reference to this first individual's experience because Mother Angelica herself not only spoke repeatedly of her own mystical "experiences," but she also admitted something striking about her reaction to having hands laid on her by Charismatics. Her reaction dovetails with this gentleman's experience. Mother Angelica said that her experience, in which words she hadn't intended to speak spilled out of her mouth after having had hands laid on her by Charismatics, scared her. She recalled: "Words came out, but I didn't know what they were. It scared me."9

    Mother Angelica didn't realize that it was an evil spirit which she had picked up after involvement with the Charismatics. She continued to promote this movement.

    On Dec. 2, 1977, Mother Angelica led a Charismatic retreat in Birmingham with 28 leaders in her work, who were called "Guardians." Standing in the chapel, "Mother laid her hands on each guardian, praying in tongues for their fidelity. Some sang out in holy gibberish, others were 'slain in the Spirit.'"10 One of the participants said afterwards that it was "charismania at its height."11 After the death of Paul VI, "Mother Angelica laid hands on Matt Scalici, Jr. in her chapel."12

    Mother Angelica's biography claims that after this time she "gradually" pulled out of the Charismatic movement. This is an empty claim, for her network continued to promote the biggest charismatics in the country, such as the figures at Franciscan University and those of their ilk.

    We find Mother Angelica's early involvement in the diabolical Charismatic movement very significant. It's significant because EWTN has been a vehicle by which the Devil has kept many "conservatives" inside the Vatican II sect by its mixture of conservatism (i.e. some things which are true to Catholic Tradition) with the apostasy of the Vatican II religion. Personalities such as Mother Angelica have acted as magnets to keep "conservatives" deceived and devoted to the Counter Church. Many are persuaded that figures such as Mother Angelica in the post-Vatican II "Church" are proof that true spiritual vitality is still to be found there when, in truth, it is a false "Church" and adherence to its apostasy leads to damnation. It makes sense that the leader of this deceptive apostolate at EWTN, Mother Angelica, got her start by receiving a diabolical spirit at a Charismatic event.

    In fact, Mother Angelica has claimed that numerous mystical experiences guided her course at EWTN.

    "During a bright spot in her convalescence, Mother claims to have seen the child Jesus dashing down the halls of the monastery. This was by no means an isolated event."13

    Does it sound like the Child Jesus to be "dashing down the halls"? Or does it sound more like what a demon would be doing as he goes about his work for the destruction of souls? Based on what we've covered already about Mother Angelica's endorsement of heresy, false religions and the diabolical Charismatic movement, a true Catholic would have to conclude that Mother Angelica actually saw the latter, not the former.

    Matthew 24:24-25- "For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Behold I have told it to you, beforehand."

    Mother Angelica also claimed that the Child Jesus appeared to her and told her, "Build me a temple and I will help those who help you."14 While churches can be described as "temples" (2 Thess. 2:4) a "temple" can also describe a Jєωιѕн house of worship and a Masonic lodge. Since Mother Angelica has promoted the heretical and false idea that Jews don't need Jesus Christ for salvation – proven by, among other things, her adherence to the antipopes who teach this – it's certain that it was not Our Lord Jesus telling her to build a Catholic temple. Rather, it was another evil spirit (one similar to that which she received at the Charismatic event) cryptically telling her to build a "temple" for the New Church religion of the Vatican II sect. It's very interesting that the top of the Cross on the outside of this "temple" (a temple that Mother Angelica spent about 50 million dollars to build!) was incredibly blown off cleanly by a bolt of lightning during a powerful storm, leaving only a "T," not the regular Cross. It remains that way to this day.

    Moving back to the apostasy promoted by EWTN, Fr. Benedict Groeschel is a huge figure at EWTN. Groeschel has turned away converts, declared that he never "bought" that non-Catholics can't be saved (a defined dogma), preached in "200 Protestant churches and a hundred ѕуηαgσgυєs," and said that the sacraments are not necessary for salvation, and even denied that Our Lord even said "Unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood you shall not have life in you" (John 6:54)!15

    EWTN's "experts" totally reject the necessity of the Catholic Church for salvation. EWTN's "experts" inform non-Catholic inquirers – including a Jew who rejects Christ and the wife of an "Orthodox" schismatic wondering about her husband's obligation to convert – that they are fine for Heaven right where they are.16
    EWTN also promotes an organization called the Association of Hebrew Catholics (AHC). The Association of Hebrew Catholics is composed of supposed "converts" from Judaism. They are attempting to create, in effect, a Jєωιѕн sect inside the "Catholic Church." This organization is headed by David Moss, who has been featured on EWTN numerous times. David Moss is the brother of Rosalind Moss, who also has hosted shows on EWTN and is employed by "Catholic Answers." This AHC – composed of supposed converts from Judaism – promotes that Catholics converted from Judaism may continue to practice the Old Law (an idea solemnly condemned by the Council of Florence).

    "Ignoring the Church's teaching that the rituals and observances of the Mosaic law have been abolished with the New Covenant and that it is mortally sinful to observe them, Moss recommended that the Catholic inquirer 'go to a local ѕуηαgσgυє and watch what they do and listen to it. You can take part in a Seder,' he added… Moss then recommended that Catholics follow suit [that is, follow the practice of 'Messianic Jews'] by celebrating Passover and Rosh haShanah… This conclusion is supported by an item on AHC's website entitled: 'Through the Hebrew Catholic Year: A Collection of Traditions and Prayers for the Jєωιѕн Holidays for Catholics.' Here AHC advocates a 'Catholic' celebration of Rosh haShanah, Yom Kippur, Succoth, Purim, Passover, Shavuoth, and Hanukkah, using prayers 'adapted from traditional Jєωιѕн prayer books.'"17
    This is a promotion of mortal sin, heresy and apostasy.

    EWTN is unfortunately a very heretical, modernist, false ecuмenical network, which mixes apostasy, a promotion of Vatican II, the New Mass and the New Religion with some interesting programming. Here's an interesting e-mail we received on this issue:

    "Good morning, Turned on EWTN this morning. I find myself occasionally viewing the Novus Ordo service during this my decision process, i.e., what to do (relative to my Catholic Faith). I heard the "main celebrant" Fr. Francis state: '...the Church never said other Christians will not receive salvation...those that say this are liars or misinformed...the Catholic Church is like a five course meal, if you want the whole meal, come to the Church..'

    "The day's homily is available online (I think next day). This "doctrine" has gone, real time, to untold numbers.
    Pray for me,
    G. M."

    We wonder if any of the EWTN supporters who heard or watched the sermon ever deeply considered its implications: what it means about their presence at church, their entire effort to attend "Mass," etc. We wonder if it hit any of them that this means that being a Catholic, praying the Rosary, going to confession, etc. is pointless.

    We certainly hope for the conversion of "Fr." Francis, but we must say that he is too blinded by his apostasy to realize his foolishness. He is too blinded to realize that he holds that his own "priesthood" – the entire EWTN Network – is a complete waste of time. If you believe what EWTN and "Fr." Francis do, you would have to be a complete idiot to be Catholic. You could just head down to the local Lutheran church, confess your faith in Jesus as Lord, and head on your way.

    So don't be fooled by externals. Heretics have always had externals to one degree or another. Don't be fooled by those who claim to have some attachment to the Catholic Faith or Our Lord or Our Lady or the Saints, but reject a dogma. Unless they accept the entire truth, they are phonies. "Fr." Francis sometimes speaks of bringing the young to Christ on his show "Life on the Rock." Sounds great and devoted, doesn't it? But then he publicly commented on and praised Benedict XVI's Christ-denying visit to the ѕуηαgσgυє and endorsement of the Jєωιѕн religion. He speaks of bringing the young to Christ when he believes that Christ is meaningless.

    This e-mail shows us again that phonies mix an attachment to some things Catholic with a rejection of its truth. They act as if they are devoted to God, and surely say some good and conservative things, but they are abominations in God's sight.

    Since we're speaking of phonies, mention must be made of "Fr." John Corapi of EWTN. Those who have seen him know that Corapi gives talks as if he is devoted to Our Lord and the Catholic Faith – "thundering" against sin and defending the Eucharist in his melodramatic fashion. He is an utter phony, for he holds that it is all meaningless. He holds that you can be a Protestant who completely rejects Our Lady, the Papacy and the Eucharist, or even a Jew who completely rejects Christ.

    Speaking about the conflict between Protestants and professing Catholics in Ireland, "Fr." John Corapi declared: "I don't care if you're Baptist or Catholic; you are Christian. Just practice it." That is blatantly heretical.

    They are like "whitewashed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness. [They] outwardly appear righteous to men, but within are full of hypocrisy and iniquity." (Matthew 23:28)

    One of us called "Fr." Corapi's secretary once, and asked her: "Is it necessary to be a Catholic to be saved?" She responded with the blunt answer: "No." One of us then said, "then why be a Catholic?" She said: "Because it is the fullness of truth." One of us responded: "But it's not necessary according to you." She agreed. Behold the emptiness, the stupidity and the evil of the Vatican II religion.

    A new book entitled A Network Gone Wrong (by Chris Ferrara, Good Counsel Publications, Pound Ridge, NY) was recently published. The book is being vigorously promoted Nicholas Gruner's apostolate. Gruner's apostolate is even sending out free copies of this book. Simply put, the book is an all-out assault on the television network EWTN (Eternal Word Television Network) which has become, according to the book, a network of apostasy since the departure of Mother Angelica from the reins of power.

    Much can be garnered about the purpose of the book in examining the book's thesis. The thesis of the book, repeated prominently throughout, is that EWTN has become a network of apostasy since the departure of Mother Angelica – as if it had not been a network of apostasy before that time!

    Chris Ferrara, EWTN: A Network Gone Wrong, p. 5: "With Mother Angelica's departure as the network's signature personality by the end of 2001, the original vision of the network as a counter-Modernist force for a Catholic restoration was quickly lost and has never been recovered. Mother's vision has been replaced by an 'ecuмenical,' watered-down blandness, delivered largely by ex-Protestant ministers, combined with lame attempts at 'cool' Catholicism with a heavy emphasis on rock music."

    "Fr." Nicholas Gruner, Letter on promotion of the book EWTN: A Network Gone Wrong: "All of these scandalous novelties are on EWTN! And they undermine the Faith! Over and over again, Catholics complain to us about EWTN's scandals. Faithful and informed Catholics are disgusted with EWTN's brand of 'Catholicism.' All of this has been happening since Mother Angelica gave up control of EWTN in March 2000 – 6 years ago."

    What a lie! For anyone who has just a little honesty and a little familiarity with the positions and programming of EWTN prior to Mother Angelica's "departure" in 2000 or 2001 (whenever you want to date it), this statement is quickly seen to be an outrageous falsehood. Under the control of Mother Angelica, EWTN promoted the same false ecuмenism, the same denial of Outside the Church There is No Salvation, the same rejection of the necessity for Protestants to convert (as exemplified on The Journey Home), the same type of Rock Music (Life on the Rock), etc. that Ferrara complains about and denounces in his book. During the reign of Mother Angelica, EWTN covered and promoted John Paul II's interreligious apostasy – for instance, his Pan-Christian Encounter in 1999 and many other events with heretics and schismatics– it promoted the cult of John Paul II and, of course, it promoted the New Mass and Vatican II to the core, while rejecting independent traditionalists. (Jeff Cavins, by the way, said on EWTN radio that our material should be thrown in the trash.) EWTN was the same network of apostasy under Mother Angelica that it is now, with minor differences in programming, such as would change on any network from year to year. This, of course, is very obvious and well known to anyone who knows anything about the network (as Ferrara and Gruner certainly do) and is honest at all.

    In response to this book, even EWTN personality "Fr." John Trigilio objected to the ridiculous assertion that everything has changed since the demise of the popular nun:

    "Fr." John Trigilio, in response to EWTN: A Network Gone Wrong: "I have known Reverend Mother Angelica these past ten years, along with Deacon Bill Steltemeier and many of the staff in production and programming, Internet services, the theology department, and so on. It is a gross distortion to infer that EWTN, since Mother's stroke and subsequent absence from the camera, has deteriorated into a modernist, heterodox, sacrilegious agent of modern Catholic media."

    (http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/abbott/060307)

    To assert that EWTN has spiraled into apostasy and modernism and the promotion of the aforementioned things only since the departure of Mother Angelica is one of the biggest and most outrageous lies we've ever heard.

    The Devil wants people to stay with the counterfeit Church of the Vatican II sect. He wants people to stay with the invalid New Mass. This is the whole purpose of the lies, and many similar false messages. The Devil wants to keep conservative-minded "Catholics" inside the Vatican II parishes, in communion with the new Vatican II religion, and under the manifestly heretical and non-Catholic Vatican II antipopes. In order to accomplish this, the Devil uses people such as Mother Angelica. And in order to be ultra-effective, in the false messages which he gives them he includes conservative statements.

    Endnotes for Section 35:
    1 Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica, Random House, Inc., 2005, p. 120.
    2 Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica, p. 121.
    3 Shown in Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica; from OLAM.
    4 Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica, p. 98.
    5 Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica, pp. 148-149.
    6 Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica, p. 120.
    7 Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica, p. 121.
    8 Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica, p. 123.
    9 Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica, p. 121.
    10 Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica, p. 135.
    11 Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica, p. 135.
    12 Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica, p. 142.
    13 Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica, p. 314.
    14 Raymond Arroyo, Mother Angelica, p. 255.
    15 Chris Ferrara, EWTN: A Network Gone Wrong, Pound Ridge, NY: Good Counsel Publications, 2006, p. 79; pp. 86-90.
    16 EWTN Q & A Forum, advice by Richard Geraghty of Feb. 19, 2005 on "Non-Catholic Salvation."
    17 EWTN broadcast of March 7, 2005; quoted by Chris Ferrara, EWTN: A Network Gone Wrong, p. 146

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    Tradition in Action here: Tradition in Action is the site of Atila Sinke Guimarães who wrote the first comprehensive critique showing the immense errors of V2, "In the Murky Waters of Vatican II," by Atila Sinke Guimarães, Volume I From the Collection: Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani?.

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    In the Murky Waters of Vatican II by Atila Sinke Guimarães, Volume I From the Collection: Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani?


    SPECIAL FOREWORD

    by Dr. Malachi Martin

    This first volume of the Collection: Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani? establishes the author Atila Sinke Guimarães as one of the best informed latter-day students of that epochal event, the Second Vatican Council. Up to this moment, the most encyclopedic and detailedly informed examination of the Council was provided by Professor Amerio in his Iota Unum. Guimarães’ Collection bids fair to replace Iota Unum as the best all-purpose source-book about the Council; and it is not hazardous or rash to predict that this work of Guimarães will be a standard reference work on the subject—and well into the 21st century.

    The title of this first volume, in The Murky Waters of Vatican II, tells exactly what the contents are. All of us who lived through the years of Vatican 11 (1962-1965) and have had to deal with the consequences can recognize immediately the pinpoint accuracy of this first volume: The ambiguity, cultivated and, as it were, perfected in the composition of the sixteen main docuмents of the Council, is now seen as the most skillful means devised to undo the essential Roman- ness and Catholicism of the Roman Catholic Church, and to deliver that entire one-billion member institutional organization into the ready and eager hands of those for whom the existence of the traditional papacy and hierarchical organization has long been anathema. One reads in this volume with a certain sickening feeling of the unified way in which the Church’s own theologians and prelates conspired willingly to bring about the present trend to the de-Romanization and de-Catholicizing of the once monolithic institution.

    September 25, 1997

    “…existence of the traditional papacy and hierarchical organization has long been anathema.” Is a vastly important statement. We are never called to render ANY obedience nor even have ANY communion nor any interaction with Apostate Antipopes nor any Apostate ecclesiastical “authority.” Such Apostate Antipopes and such so called “authorities” have no authority at all and are ipso fact excommunicate and anathema by their own statements and actions.

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    From the below –

    Is There a Doctrine underlying the Ambiguity? 131

    Second, from the standpoint of the aim toward which the Church should tend: “The very word evolution, obstinately under suspicion until then, was introduced three or four times, in spite of the negative reactions, into the text at critical points of Gaudium et Spes as a reinforcement to the word ‘history’…. I am pleased to quote Paul VI, then still Cardinal Montini [Chenu speaking], who makes an excellent comment: ‘The order toward which Christianity tends is not a static one; it is an order in permanent evolution toward a better form; it is an equilibrium in movement.’ “15
    Third, regarding the essence of evolution, which is supposedly the “Spirit of God”: “Already chapter II [of Gaudium et Spes], on describing the promotion of the common good in the human community, affirmed the presence of the Spirit in the ‘evolution’ of the world: ‘The Spirit of God, who, with wondrous providence, directs the course of time and renews the face of the earth, assists at this development’ (GS 26).”16

    Now take the last part –

    Third, regarding the essence of evolution, which is supposedly the “Spirit of God”: “Already chapter II [of Gaudium et Spes], on describing the promotion of the common good in the human community, affirmed the presence of the Spirit in the ‘evolution’ of the world: ‘The Spirit of God, who, with wondrous providence, directs the course of time and renews the face of the earth, assists at this development’ (GS 26).”16

    To identify the Holy Spirit with evolution is pagan (all the pagan gods evolved), it is monist (which holds that there is no creator God only a universe that takes the place of God), it is Gnostic – one of biggest heresies of Gnosticism was that man evolved to where he could create God and then it is man that is in charge of God and controls Him – this is Theurgy – the most despicable form of black magic that there is.

    Now we understand fully the damned Apostate Karol Wojtyla aka PJII or [Anti]Pope John Paul II when he declared that all of the false gods of the Assisi abomination in 2002 were part of the blowing of the Holy Spirit. That is blaspheming the Holy Spirit for which there is no forgiveness – not ever – Our Lord Jesus Christ said so. Amen.Amen.

    He said, His statement transcribed is : “That is what the scripture says, the Spirit is a blowing. May the Holy Spirit today blow – speak to the hearts of all of us here present as the wind symbolizes. Lets listen all of us to the words of the Spirit.” After that go back and see the entire 2 hours and 23 minutes before he says that. If you believe that what is shown has anything to do with the Christian faith or true Catholic religion or the Holy Spirit, then you are not a Christian nor a Catholic. It is sheer Satanic Apostasy. See: FOR THE TAPE ON ASSISI SEE: go to http://rhondasnando.blogspot.com/2013/02/assisi-abomination-of-desolation.html
    then go to part 6 at at 19:18-19:54 of 28:25 of part 6 and at 2:23:00-2:23:36 of 2:31:48 of the whole tape which is where John Paul II the Apostate blasphemes the Holy Spirit.
    “words of the Spirit” Wojtyla said refering to all the blaspheming of the pagans. Wojtyla is damned.

    All of this is termed Charismatic and Pentecostal in V2 language, but it is DAMNED Apostasy. Never forgiven. If, unwittingly, anyone got near this, simply run don’t walk to get away from it and stay away from it. That applies to all of V2.
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    Chapter VII, Is There A Doctrine Underlying The Ambiguity



    pp. 130 - 136

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    2. Subjacent to Ambiguity, the Doctrine of Universal Evolution

    § 10     A first impression comes to the mind of an analyst who wants to determine the doctrinal background underlying the systematic ambiguity of the Council: he notices that the Catholic Church, hitherto immutable in its doctrine and fixed in its structures, is presented as a ‘Church in transition.’
    Theologian Hans Kung writes: “Just as John XXIII became a transition pope. . . and Council Vatican II was a transition council, so also is the Catholic Church today a transition Church: it is in transition from a past still not completely elapsed to a future that is just beginning to appear.”11
    § 11     Given his often radical stands, it would not be surprising if it were only Hans Kung who made such a statement. Nevertheless, authors as important as Fr. Chenu, inspirer of the conciliar Fathers’ Message to the World in the beginning of the Council,’12 also admit, like Kung, the same principle of transition applied to the Church and her doctrine. They even go further as they further define this transitional phase and link it to evolutionist principles.

    From several standpoints, Fr. Chenu celebrates the introduction of
    the idea and the word evolution into conciliar texts.[my comment - note the next statement, that it had never been allowed – the reason is that it is HERETICAL]

    First, from the standpoint of the formulation of the Faith: “Relative used to be a dangerous word. . . up until the Council. ‘Official’ theology deemed the formulas expressing the faith to be immutable realities and would not even allow the word evolution, which the Council introduces, into its vocabulary.”13
    Continuing from the point of view of dogmatic formulation, Fr. Chenu says: “That she [the Church] may be at the same time one and varied; that she may be one and multiform. For humanity itself is in a multiform evolution. . . . The dogmatic forms, which used to be considered absolute, are relative; relative to time, places, circuмstances, evolution. The same realities have different fonnulas.”14

    11. H. Kung, Veracidade, p. 112.
    12. Jean Puyo interroge le Père Congar, p. 128; R. Laurentin, Bilan de la premiere session, pp. 123f.; H. Fesquet, op. cit., p. 49.
    13. Jacques Duquesne interroge le Père Chenu, p. 47.
    14. Marie-Dominique Chenu, Interview with the Author, Paris, February 20,
    1983.

    Is There a Doctrine underlying the Ambiguity? 131

    Second, from the standpoint of the aim toward which the Church should tend: “The very word evolution, obstinately under suspicion until then, was introduced three or four times, in spite of the negative reactions, into the text at critical points of Gaudium et Spes as a reinforcement to the word ‘history’…. I am pleased to quote Paul VI, then still Cardinal Montini, who makes an excellent comment: ‘The order toward which Christianity tends is not a static one; it is an order in permanent evolution toward a better form; it is an equilibrium in movement.’ “15

    Third, regarding the essence of evolution, which is supposedly the “Spirit of God”: “Already chapter II [of Gaudium et Spes], on describing the promotion of the common good in the human community, affirmed the presence of the Spirit in the ‘evolution’ of the world: ‘The Spirit of God, who, with wondrous providence, directs the course of time and renews the face of the earth, assists at this development’ (GS 26).”16

    Fr. Chenu then begins to develop the inner core of the conciliar doctrine by contending that it evolves according to the “signs of the times” that are revealed in history: “If one should qualify the Council by a main trait, I would propose to call it ‘prophetic’ in the full force and technical meaning of the word both in theological language and in the sociological vocabulary. A prophet is one who knows how to discern in current events that which places them in the continuity and ruptures of a history on the move. The prophet does not analyze structures and notions in their static condition, but in their dynamism. Thus, according to the famous formula, the future is already present.

    …The aggiornamento of which John XXIII spoke is not an updating after which one again returns to the road with definitive formulas; it is a continuous application of one’s intelligence to understand the ‘signs of the times’ that emerge from the new values as Gospel in a world on the move. . . . Evidently, the constitution Gaudium et Spes is where this prophetism is more palpable.
    …And it inspires many other declarations or decrees. This is why,

    15. Jacques Duquesne interroge le Père Chenu, pp. 185f.
    16. M. D. Chenu, “Les signes des temps—Reflexions théologiques,” in V.A., L’Eglise dans le monde de ce temps—Constitution pastorale “Gaudium et spes,” eds. Y. Congar—M. Peuchmaurd (Paris: Cerf, 1967), vol. II, p. 212.


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    gauging well the word and [applying it] in this sense, one can say
    that Vatican II is obsolete.

    “To the extent that its basic element is prophetic, it requires its own obsolescence. If it is projected—in the proper sense— toward the future, the texts take on a new density inasmuch as the future is present. Needless to say, it is difficult to define fidelity to the first inspiration, but it [fidelity] is the profound law. So if I limit myself to a commentary, a discourse, I will be actually unfaithful. This is why it is normal for those responsible at all levels in their day-to-day decisions not always to be in agreement, as though there were a set of norms to be applied or a dogmatic formula to be taught. One must undoubtedly lament deviations and ramblings, but they do not compromise the principal character of the Council’s innovations.”17

    If one were to admit Fr. Chenu’s explanation and draw only the major consequences from it, one sees that it would legitimize the abandonment of the dogmatic formulas of the past. Attachment to them would be “infidelity”; the lack of oneness in Church teaching would be considered normal, and a corollary would be to deny authority—especially that of the Pope—the competence to teach always the same thing everywhere.

    Historicity applied to the dogmas of Faith and to authority in the Church makes them relative to such an extent that one could ask whether the concept of historicity differs from Luther’s principle of free interpretation. Since free interpretation relativizes the teaching of Catholic exegetic tradition and historicity extends relativism to the field of exegesis in dogmatics and ecclesiastical authority, one would say that historicity differs from free interpretation only in that it surpasses the latter in its developments, even though both begin from the same principles.

    § 15     In his explanation of the new, historic and evolutionary view of the universe, Fr. Chenu provides elements of an anthropology according to which man should be considered as essentially linked to the evolutionary process. These doctrines, he claims, are the foundations of Vatican II. Fr. Chenu says: “It is not by chance that the Christian is becoming more attentive to the peculiar character of the economy of salvation at a moment when man is becoming vitally aware of the

    17. Jacques Duquesne interroge le Père Chenu, pp. l9lf.


    Is There a Doctrine underlying the Ambiguity? 133

    historicity of his own nature. This is a normal convergence if it is true that faith, incarnate in the human subject, adjusts itself to man’s structures and evolutions. We observe this, moreover, in the Council. To the extent that the Council elaborated its Christological vision of a universe in movement, it experienced the need, a need albeit inadequately satisfied, for an anthropology. Now, in this ‘Christian’ anthropology, as it is being set forth more or less explicitly in theological statements, three attributes, three co-essential attributes of man are emerging: First, that man is by nature social; second, that he is so linked to the universe that the very matter of the cosmos is engaged in his destiny; and third, that man exists in history. Let us understand this threefold value. . . written into man’s nature and in some way, too, issuing from it, as distinct from abstract analysis or anything resembling either a timeless idea or an immutable definition. Thus it is that even in its vocabulary, the Council speaks rather of the human condition than of human nature as such, by contrast with Vatican I. Without setting aside an essentialist philosophy, one can readily have recourse to existential analyses.”18

    One sees that Fr. Chenu only broaches on some central ideas of the so-called Christian anthropology, its evolutionary character, its warm reception by the Council and its relations with existentialism. But such ideas appear sufficient to confirm the impression that an evolutionary doctrine is subjacent to, and latent in, conciliar ambiguity.

    This Item limits itself to verifying the emergence of evolutionary doctrine as one of the principal characteristics of Vatican II. An analysis of this doctrine will be made further on.’19

    Fr. Yves Congar, who worked on ten of the 16 schemata of Vatican 11, 20* also rejoices over the introduction of the concepts of evo-

    18. M. D. Chenu, “The History of Salvation and the Historicity of Man in the Renewal of Theology,” in V.A., Theology of Renewal, vol. I, pp.
    163f.
    19. Vol. III, Animus Injuriandi-Il, Chap. VI; Vol. VI, Inveniet Fidem?, Chap. IV. 2; Vol. VII, Destructio Dei, Chap. II; Vol. IX, Creatio, Chaps. II, III; Vol. X, Peccatum—Redemptio, Chap. V.
    20.* Alain Woodrow, “A Rome: Trente theologiens du monde entier pour accomplir le Concile,” in Informations Catholiques Internationales,
    5/15/1969, p. 9.


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    lution and historicity in the Council, historicity that he links with the idea of eschatology.

    “One of the great novelties of Vatican II, as far as docuмents of the ‘magisterium’ are concerned, was the introduction of the eschatological point of view 21 and, therefore, also of historicity. That was lacking, and this grave lack had to do with the predominance of the juridical aspect. Vatican II sees the Spirit of God present in the evolution of the human community, directing the course of time and renewing the face of the earth (GS 26).”22

    § 18     Consistent with his admiration for the harbingers of the nouvelle théoiogie,23 Cardinal Wojtyla in his book, Alle fonti del Rinnovamento, comments on the Constitution Gaudium et Spes. He endorses the same principles defended by Congar and Chenu, taking evolution as a doctrinal substratum of conciliar ecciesiology: “The Church, with the consciousness of the history of salvation that is her

    In a book-interview, Congar himself confirms: “I was pretty much involved with the preparation of most of the great conciliar texts: Lumen Gentium, above all chapter II; Gaudium et Spes; Dei Verbum, the texts on Revelation; Ecuмenism; Religious Liberty; the Declaration on relations with non-Christians; the Missions. I also worked very much with the Commission of the clergy that elaborated the text Presbyterorum Ordinis” (Jean Puyo interroge le Père Congar, p. 149).

    21. About the progressivist notion of eschatology, see Vol. III, Animus Injuriandi—JI, Chap. V.2.

    22. Y. Congar, Le Concile de Vatican II, p. 170.

    23. According to Fr. Mieczyslaw Malinski, a friend of Msgr. Wojtyla, in a study circle held at the Polish College during the Council, he declared:
    “Prominent theologians like Henri de Lubac, J. Daniélou, Y. Congar, Hans Kung, R. Lombardi, K. Rahner and others, played an extraordinary role in these preparatory works [of the Council]” (Mon ami Karol Wojtyla, Paris: Centurion, 1980, p. 189).

    Rocco Buttiglione is no less explicit in this regard: “By stating that the work of Creation is included in that of Redemption and stressing the close connection between them, Wojtyla takes a stand in favor of the nouvelle théologie against positions that distinguish a pure order of nature, in which man fulfills himself as a purely natural being, from an order of grace . . . This was the position of ‘Roman theology’ and was labeled as ‘rightist.’. . . From this standpoint, Wojtyla is certainly an innovator and aligns himself with the progressivist wing of the Council” (Il pensiero di Karol Wojtvla, pp. 226f.).

    Is There a Doctrine underlying the Ambiguity?  135

    own, goes out to meet that multiform evolution and the consciousness of today’s man, which is linked to it. . . . The paschal mystery of Jesus Christ is as open to eschatology (in fact, it awakens ‘the desire for the future world’) as it is to the evolution of the world, which the Council understands above all as a commitment to make the life of humanity and of men ‘more humane.’ Vatican II stressed the ethical meaning of evolution. .. . According to the doctrine of Vatican II, the Church participates in the evolution of the world not only because the ideal of an ever more humane world is in accordance with the Gospel, but also because the history of salvation, in which the ultimate reality is prepared, necessarily passes by the realization of this world. Furthermore, this reality, almost embryonically and in a mysterious way, is already present in the world through the Church. So it is worthwhile, above all, to pay attention to the way in which the Church, according to the doctrine of the Council, participates in evolution and progress toward an ever more humane world and, therefore, the way that she, in her conscience, continuously overtakes this evolution by orienting herself to the ultimate reality that will also be the ‘plenitude of the kingdom of God.’

    “In many passages, but perhaps primarily in chapters III and IV of the Constitution Gaudium et Spes (first part), Vatican II speaks to us about the active participation of the ‘kingdom’ in the evolution of the world....

    “The Church, as is evident, participates in the evolution of the world also by means of her own evolution. Vatican II expresses a mature consciousness of this truth and makes it one of the fundamental principles of the renewal program. Here the historic consciousness of the Church is manifested in a particularly clear fashion. One may say that the whole conciliar conception of ‘aggiornamento’ (renovatio acomodata) expresses, above all, this consciousness By emphasizing the participation of the Church in the evolution of the ‘world,’ even by means of her own evolution; and, moreover, by proclaiming its necessity, Vatican II takes a stand in regard to the past and, simultaneously, to the future.

    “This is a particular expression of the historic consciousness of the Church, for the habitual category of history is only the past; the history of salvation, on the contrary, continuously

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    reports to a dimension at the same time eschatological, essential, and dynamic, and has, in itself, a unique reason to face the future. It is only in the totality of these dimensions that the Church preserves a full consciousness of her own identity; in it she also finds the basis of the whole program of renewal and aggiornamento. Only on this fundamental condition can the Church participate in the evolution of the world through her own ‘evolution.’ One may say that this is the most profound substratum of the ‘historic consciousness’ of the Church.”24


    * * *

    § 19     Several characteristics appear in the texts cited in this Item 2 that point to the evolutionist conception as the foundation of conciliar doctrine.
    In brief, this concept of evolution is supposed to influence the teaching of Vatican II by:

    • Justifying the relativization of dogmatic formulations.
    • Making the Church tend toward an order continuously in movement.
    • Reflecting the actual “spirit of God.”
    • Making the Church and Catholic doctrine adapt continuously to the “signs of the times.”
    • Providing the basis for the Christological vision of a universe in movement and the “Christian” anthropology explained by Vatican II.
    • Being present in the very essence of human nature.
    • Being the foundation of conciliar eschatology.
    • Being the prism for understanding the new ecclesiology born out of the Council.
    It is hard not to see, therefore, that the doctrinal substratum of conciliar ambiguity appears to be a new vision of the universe, of man, of the Church and of God Himself. We will opportunely analyze them in this Collection. Here we will limit ourselves to noting that there is a subjacent doctrine supporting ambiguity in the conciliar docuмents, and that this doctrine is evolution.

    24. Karol Wojtyla, Allefonti del rinnovamento—Studio sull’ attuazione del Concilio Vaticano Secondo (Vatican City: Libreria Editrice Vaticana, 1981), pp. 151-157.





    From the above: "All of this is termed Charismatic and Pentecostal in V2 language," for how heretical and apostate that is see above -

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    Tradition in Action, where the original post is from, is run by Catholic scholars who are very accurate in what they say.

    As for EWTN - that is NO endorsement at all.

    I watched EWTN and "mother Angelica" on Television and listened on Short Wave Radio to them for over 15 years ending a couple of years after Angelica was struck down, I believe, as punishment from God for her endorsing every V2 lie that came down the road and claiming that it was pre-conciliar truly Traditional Catholic. She never missed an opportunity to bad mouth His Excellency Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and claimed that every and all Traditional Catholics and Traditional Catholic movements, unless they were endorsed by the Novus Ordo sect, was rank heresy going to hell. She particularly singled out Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the SSPX for her hatred. She endorsed every looney tune Charismatic with every imaginable "message" that proclaimed every heresy that the real Church had condemned through the ages as a new sudden revelation. As for Benedict Groeschel, see below in the article about EWTN, in addition to what they say about him, he always defended the pederast "bishops."

    Our Lord Jesus Christ said:

    Matthew 24:
    24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.
    25 Behold I have told it to you, beforehand.
    26 If therefore they shall say to you: Behold he is in the desert, go ye not out: Behold he is in the closets, believe it not


    - See the below, it very accurately describes "mother Angelica" and EWTN to a tee:

    EWTN, Mother Angelica and the Charismatic Movement Exposed

    EWTN, Mother Angelica and the Charismatic Movement Exposed

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    Quote from: Stephanos II

    Tradition in Action, where the original post is from, is run by Catholic scholars who are very accurate in what they say.

    As for EWTN - that is NO endorsement at all.

    I watched EWTN and "mother Angelica" on Television and listened on Short Wave Radio to them for over 15 years ending a couple of years after Angelica was struck down, I believe, as punishment from God for her endorsing every V2 lie that came down the road and claiming that it was pre-conciliar truly Traditional Catholic. She never missed an opportunity to bad mouth His Excellency Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and claimed that every and all Traditional Catholics and Traditional Catholic movements, unless they were endorsed by the Novus Ordo sect, was rank heresy going to hell. She particularly singled out Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the SSPX for her hatred. She endorsed every looney tune Charismatic with every imaginable "message" that proclaimed every heresy that the real Church had condemned through the ages as a new sudden revelation. As for Benedict Groeschel, see below in the article about EWTN, in addition to what they say about him, he always defended the pederast "bishops."

    Our Lord Jesus Christ said:

    Matthew 24:
    24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.
    25 Behold I have told it to you, beforehand.
    26 If therefore they shall say to you: Behold he is in the desert, go ye not out: Behold he is in the closets, believe it not


    - See the below, it very accurately describes "mother Angelica" and EWTN to a tee:

    EWTN, Mother Angelica and the Charismatic Movement Exposed


    Quote from: Stephanos II
    Quote from: Stephanos II

    Tradition in Action, where the original post is from, is run by Catholic scholars who are very accurate in what they say.



    Tradition in Action here: Tradition in Action is the site of Atila Sinke Guimarães who wrote the first comprehensive critique showing the immense errors of V2, "In the Murky Waters of Vatican II," by Atila Sinke Guimarães, Volume I From the Collection: Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani?.

    See this here for excerpts-

    In the Murky Waters of Vatican II by Atila Sinke Guimarães, Volume I From the Collection: Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani?


    See this -

    In the Murky Waters of Vatican II by Atila Sinke Guimarães, Volume I From the Collection: Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani?

    The Apostasy of the False Council of Vatican II



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    Be warned, the whole idea of a Man-God, is formally speaking in Catholic Theology the Antichrist as the Simia Christi or Ape of Christ by the instigation of Satan speaking the same lie the Devil spoke in the Garden of Eden, that man could become God.

    That is NOT Our Lord Jesus Christ. He is the God-man. God who became man. The difference between the two, the Man-God and the God-man, is infinite and absolute. Man-God is from the Devil - PERIOD.

    God took flesh and became man. Man did not take Godhood from God the Father and become God.

    St. Paul said: Romans 10:6
    But the justice which is of faith, speaketh thus: Say not in thy heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? that is, to bring Christ down;

    The God-man is Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. He is emphatically NOT the Man-God; that is blasphemous Satanic apostate absolute heresy to call Him that.

    The Man-God also has its roots in Teilhard de Chardin's utter apostasy. More coming on that.


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    « Reply #20 on: March 19, 2014, 02:08:48 AM »
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  • Look at this from Valtorta! It is the work of a lying false prophetess.

    From below:

    "...if you object that Revelation was closed with the last Apostle (John), and there was nothing further to add, because the same Apostle says in Revelation: "If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him every plague mentioned in the book" (22:18) and that can be understood for all the Revelation, the last completion of which is the Revelation by John, I reply to you that with this work no addition was made to Revelation, but only the gaps, brought about by natural causes and by supernatural will, were filled in.



    I reply to you that with this work no addition was made to Revelation, but only the gaps, brought about by natural causes and by supernatural will, were filled in.

    That statement is nothing but a damned lie.



    From the Apocalypse of St. John the Apostle and last Evangelist and final canonical prophet of the Catholic Church:

    Apocalypse, Revelation, Chapter 22

    . . .

    Final Attestation

    16 I, Jesus, have sent my angel, to testify to you these things in the churches. I am the root and stock of David, the bright and morning star.
    17 And the Spirit [3] and the bride say: Come. And he that heareth, let him say: Come. And he that thirsteth, let him come. And he that will, let him take the water of life, freely. … Scripture reference — Rev. 21:6; Isaiah: 55;:1!; Jn. 7:37
    18 For I testify to every one that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book: If any man shall add to these things, God shall add unto him the plagues written in this book. … Scripture reference — Proverbs 30:6!
    19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from these things that are written in this book. Exodus 32:33!
    20 ¶ He that giveth testimony of these things, saith: Surely, I come quickly: Amen. Come, Lord Jesus. [4] … Scripture reference — Rev. 22:7!
    21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. [5] Amen. … Scripture reference — 2Cor. 13:13!; 2Thess. 3:18; Titus 3:15
    (DRV)

    . . .

    [3] – Ver. 17. The Spirit: the Holy Spirit. The bride: the Church of Christ.
    [4] – Ver. 20. I come quickly: the words are Christ’s, now repeated for the seventh time.
    [5] – Ver. 21. The Greek Codex Sinaiticus has, “The grace of the Lord Jesus be with the saints.


    And look at this effeminate girlish ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ portrait - that is NOT of Jesus Christ.

    VALTORTA PUBLISHING - HOME

    Excerpt from the 2nd last page of  THE GOSPEL AS REVEALED TO ME, Volume #10, page 552.


    Oil painting by Ukrainian Catholic evangelist  Josyp Terelya.
    Terelya was freed from communist prison through the help of Pope John Paul II and Pres. Ronald Reagan.
    Copyright 2001 by Valtorta Publishing (VALTORTA.ORG), who commissioned Josyp to paint this image of the Holy Face of Jesus.
     
    "...if you object that Revelation was closed with the last Apostle (John), and there was nothing further to add, because the same Apostle says in Revelation: "If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him every plague mentioned in the book" (22:18) and that can be understood for all the Revelation, the last completion of which is the Revelation by John, I reply to you that with this work no addition was made to Revelation, but only the gaps, brought about by natural causes and by supernatural will, were filled in.

         And if I wanted to take pleasure in restoring the picture of My Divine Charity as a restorer of mosaics does replacing the tesserae damaged or missing, reinstating the mosaic in its complete beauty, and I have decided to do it in this century in which mankind is hurling itself  towards the Abyss of darkness and horror, can you forbid Me from doing so?  Can you perhaps say that you do not need it, you whose spirits are dull, weak, deaf to lights, voices and invitations from Above?

         You ought really to bless Me for increasing with new lights the light that you have and that is no longer sufficient for you to "see" your Savior.  To see the Way, the Truth and the Life, and feel that spiritual emotion of the just of My time rise in you, attaining through this knowledge a renewal of your spirits in love, that would be your salvation, because it is an ascent towards perfection.

         I do not say you are "dead", but sleeping, drowsy.  Like plants during their winter sleep.  The divine Sun gives you its refulgence.  Awake and bless the Sun that gives you itself, receive it with joy that It may warm you, from the surface to deep inside you, it may rouse you and cover you with flowers and fruits.
     
         Rise.  Come to My Gift.
         "Take and eat.  Take and drink" I said to the apostles.
         "If you only knew the gift of God and Who it is that is saying to you: 'give Me a drink', you would have been the one to ask, and He would have given you living water" I said to the Samaritan woman (John 4:10).
     
         I say also now: to doctors and to Samaritans as well.  Because both extreme classes need it, and also those need it, who are between the two extremes.  The former not to be underfed and deprived of strength also with regard to themselves, and of supernatural nourishment for those who languish with lack of knowledge of God, of the God-Man, of the Master and Savior.  The latter because souls need living water, when they perish far away from the springs.  Those in the middle, between the former and the latter, the great mass of those who are not big sinners, and also of those who are static in not making any progress, through laziness, tepidness, because of a wrong concept of holiness, those who are scrupulous of not being damned, of being observant, of becoming entangled in a labyrinth of superficial practices, but dare not take a step on the steep, very steep road of heroism, so that from this work they may recieve the initial incentive to come out of that immobility and set out on the heroic way.
     
         I tell you these words.  I offer you this food and this drink of living water.  My word is Life.  And I want you in the Life, with Me.  And I multiply My Word to counterbalance the miasmata of Satan as they destroy the vital strength of your spirit.
     
         Do not reject Me.  I am anxious to give Myself to you, because I love you.  And My anxiety is inextinguishable.  I ardently wish to communicate Myself to you to make you ready for the banquet of the celestial nuptials.  And you need Me in order not to languish, to dress yourselves with dresses adorned for the Wedding of the Lamb, for the great feast of God after overcoming the affliction in this desert full of snares, of brambles and snakes, which is the Earth, to pass through flames without suffering damage, to tread on reptiles and have to take poisons without dying (Mark 16:18), as you have Me in you."       THE GOSPEL AS REVEALED TO ME, Volume #10, pp. 550-551 .

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  • Quote from: Stephanos II
    To sum up:

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    From Tradition in Action: Valtorta's Poem of the Man-God

    Valtorta’s Poem of the Man-God

    Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.
    Book review of Peom of the Man-God by Maria Valtorta,    10 volumes, online edition
     

     


    Quote from: Stephanos II

    Tradition in Action, where the original post is from, is run by Catholic scholars who are very accurate in what they say.

    As for EWTN - that is NO endorsement at all.

    I watched EWTN and "mother Angelica" on Television and listened on Short Wave Radio to them for over 15 years ending a couple of years after Angelica was struck down, I believe, as punishment from God for her endorsing every V2 lie that came down the road and claiming that it was pre-conciliar truly Traditional Catholic. She never missed an opportunity to bad mouth His Excellency Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and claimed that every and all Traditional Catholics and Traditional Catholic movements, unless they were endorsed by the Novus Ordo sect, was rank heresy going to hell. She particularly singled out Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the SSPX for her hatred. She endorsed every looney tune Charismatic with every imaginable "message" that proclaimed every heresy that the real Church had condemned through the ages as a new sudden revelation. As for Benedict Groeschel, see below in the article about EWTN, in addition to what they say about him, he always defended the pederast "bishops."

    Our Lord Jesus Christ said:

    Matthew 24:
    24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.
    25 Behold I have told it to you, beforehand.
    26 If therefore they shall say to you: Behold he is in the desert, go ye not out: Behold he is in the closets, believe it not


    - See the below, it very accurately describes "mother Angelica" and EWTN to a tee:

    EWTN, Mother Angelica and the Charismatic Movement Exposed


    Quote from: Stephanos II
    Quote from: Stephanos II

    Tradition in Action, where the original post is from, is run by Catholic scholars who are very accurate in what they say.



    Tradition in Action here: Tradition in Action is the site of Atila Sinke Guimarães who wrote the first comprehensive critique showing the immense errors of V2, "In the Murky Waters of Vatican II," by Atila Sinke Guimarães, Volume I From the Collection: Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani?.

    See this here for excerpts-

    In the Murky Waters of Vatican II by Atila Sinke Guimarães, Volume I From the Collection: Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani?


    See this -

    In the Murky Waters of Vatican II by Atila Sinke Guimarães, Volume I From the Collection: Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani?

    The Apostasy of the False Council of Vatican II



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    Be warned, the whole idea of a Man-God, is formally speaking in Catholic Theology the Antichrist as the Simia Christi or Ape of Christ by the instigation of Satan speaking the same lie the Devil spoke in the Garden of Eden, that man could become God.

    That is NOT Our Lord Jesus Christ. He is the God-man. God who became man. The difference between the two, the Man-God and the God-man, is infinite and absolute. Man-God is from the Devil - PERIOD.

    God took flesh and became man. Man did not take Godhood from God the Father and become God.

    St. Paul said: Romans 10:6
    But the justice which is of faith, speaketh thus: Say not in thy heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? that is, to bring Christ down;

    The God-man is Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. He is emphatically NOT the Man-God; that is blasphemous Satanic apostate absolute heresy to call Him that.

    The Man-God also has its roots in Teilhard de Chardin's utter apostasy. More coming on that.



    The Man-God also has its roots in Teilhard de Chardin's utter apostasy. More coming on that.


    See here:

    Marie Joseph Pierre Teilhard de Chardin SJ 1881-1955 fake and apostate - The Phenomenon of Man - evolutionary witchcraft of the Devil


    The Apostates who mock God and His Christ in former Catholic, Protestant and Christian churches are led by the spirit of theistic pantheism - God blended with self and universe and mystical experience, in a word: "witchcraft."

    Galatians 5:
    20 Idolatry, witchcrafts, enmities, contentions, emulations, wraths, quarrels, dissensions, sects,
    21 ... Of the which I foretell you, as I have foretold to you, that they who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God.

    Father Malachi Martin - witness to the Truth: Primacy: How the Institutional Roman Catholic Church Became a Creature of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr

    Pierre Teilhard de Chardin the practicing witch.

    THE THEORY OF EVOLUTION


          New Agers believe in the theory of evolution. Reincarnation is actually based on the idea of evolution... man 'evolves' through lifetime after lifetime in endless successive incarnations until they finally reach perfection. Eastern Mysticism teaches that the lower forms of life evolve into higher forms of life and that eventually all men will evolve back into godhood or the 'Source from which they came'.

         The Jesuit, PierreTeilhard de Chardin, (sometimes referred to as the Father of the New Age Movement), eagerly investigated paleontology, which is the study of prehistoric animal fossils, which undoubtedly led to his later obsession with the theory of evolution. "Spiritualism teaches that man is the creature of progression; that it is his destiny from birth to progress or to evolve, even to eternity, toward the godhead". Ellen White, Great Controversy pg 554 In like manner, Teilhard believed that the more man became like his 'true self' (otherwise known as the Higher Self) -the more he evolved into 'what God is'.

         The idea behind this theory is that man was already God and that it was essential that he go back to the Source from whence he came, to find his 'True Self.' He needed to evolve into the 'Ultra Human' or into the God-man to whom Teilhard was referring. Once man reaches this state, he is presumed to have achieved what is known as 'Cosmic Consciousness.' And so the 'Father' of the New Age Movement was deeply involved in the theory of evolution.

         This New Age idea of spiritual evolution makes man his own savior- convincing him that he has the ability to evolve into a god-man. The Creationist believes that since God created the world and created us- He can therefore re-create us into His own image with a god-like character. The Evolutionist is proud however, and thinks he can progress spiritually on his own, without the assistance of God... for he thinks himself to be a god!

    http://www.religiouscounterfeits.org/EvolvingIntoGodhood.htm

    The Phenomenon of Man

    Sir Peter Medawar

    Everything does not happen continuously at any one moment in the universe. Neither does everything happen everywhere in it.

    There are no summits without abysses.

    When the end of the world is mentioned, the idea that leaps into our minds is always one of catastrophe.

    Life is born and propagates itself on the earth as a solitary pulsation.
     
    In the last analysis the best guarantee that a thing should happen is that it appears to us as vitally necessary

    This little bouquet of aphorism, each one thought sufficiently important by its author to deserve a paragraph to itself, is taken from Père Teilhard's The Phenomenon of Man. It is a book widely held to be of the utmost profundity and significance; it created something like a sensation upon its publication in France, and some reviewers hereabouts called it the Book of the Year --- one, the Book of the Century. Yet the greater part of it, I shall show, is nonsense, tricked out with a variety of metaphysical conceits, and its author can be excused of dishonesty only on the grounds that before deceiving others he has taken great pains to deceive himself. The Phenomenon of Man cannot be read without a feeling of suffocation, a gasping and flailing around for sense. There is an argument in it, to be sure --- a feeble argument, abominably expressed --- and this I shall expound in due course; but consider first the style, because it is the style that creates the illusion of content, and which is a cause as well as merely a symptom of Teilhard's alarming apocalyptic seizures.

    The Phenomenon of Man stands square in the tradition of Naturphilosophie, a philosophical indoor pastime of German origin which does not seem even by accident (though there is a great deal of it) to have contributed anything of permanent value to the storehouse of human thought. French is not a language that lends itself naturally to the opaque and ponderous idiom of nature-philosophy, and Teilhard has according resorted to the use of that tipsy, euphoristic prose-poetry which is one of the more tiresome manifestations of the French spirit. It is of the nature and reproduction that progeny should outnumber parents, and of Mendelian heredity that the inborn endowments of the parents should be variously recombined and reassorted among their offspring, so enlarging the population's candidature for evolutionary change. Teilhard puts the matter thus: it is one of his more lucid passages, and Mr Wall's translation, here as almost everywhere else, captures the spirit and sense of the original.

    Reproduction doubles the mother cell. Thus, by a mechanism which is the inverse of chemical disintegration, it multiplies without crumbling. At the same time, however, it transforms what was only intended to be prolonged. Closed in on itself, the living element reaches more or less quickly a state of immobility. It becomes stuck and coagulated in its evolution. Then by the act of reproduction it regains the faculty for inner re-adjustment and consequently takes on a new appearance and direction. The process is one of pluralization in form as well as in number. The elemental ripple of life that emerges from each individual unit does not spread outwards in a monotonous circle formed of individual units exactly like itself. It is diffracted and becomes iridescent, with an indefinite scale of variegated tonalities. The living unit is a center of irresistible multiplication, and ipso facto an equally irresistible focus of diversification.

    In no sense other than an utterly trivial one is reproduction the inverse of chemical disintegration. It is a misunderstanding of genetics to suppose that reproduction is only 'intended' to make facsimiles, for parasɛҳuąƖ processes of genetical exchange are to be found in the simplest living things. There seems to be some confusion between the versatility of a population and the adaptability of an individual. But errors of fact or judgement of this kind are to be found throughout, and are not my immediate concern; notice instead the use of adjectives of excess (misuse, rather, for genetic diversity is not indefinite nor multiplication irresistible). Teilhard is for ever shouting at us: things or affairs are, in alphabetical order, astounding, colossal, endless, enormous, fantastic, giddy, hyper-, immense, implacable, indefinite, inexhaustible, extricable, infinite, infinitesimal, innumerable, irresistible, measureless, mega-, monstrous, mysterious, prodigious, relentless, super-, ultra-, unbelievable, unbridled or unparalleled. When something is described as merely huge we feel let down. After this softening-up process we are ready to take delivery of the neologisms: biota, noosphere, hominsation, complexification. There is much else in the literary idiom of nature-philosophy: nothing-buttery, for example, always part of the minor symptomatology of the bogus. 'Love in all its subtleties is nothing more, and nothing less, than the more or less direct tract marked on the heart of the element by the psychical converge of the universe upon itself.' 'Man discovers that he is nothing else than evolution become conscious of itself,' and evolution is 'nothing else than the continual growth of. ... 'psychic' or 'radial' energy'. Again, 'the Christogenesis of St Paul and St John is nothing else and nothing less than the extension ... of that noogenesis in which cosmogenesis ... culminates'. It would have been a great disappointment to me if Vibration did not did not somewhere make itself felt, for all scientistic mystics either vibrate in person or find themselves resonant with cosmic vibrations; but I am happy to say that on page 266 Teilhard will be found to do so.

    These are trivialities, revealing though they are, and perhaps I make too much of them. The evolutionary origins of consciousness are indeed distant and obscure, and perhaps so trite a thought does need this kind of dressing to make it palatable: 'refracted rearwards along the course of evolution, consciousness displays itself qualitatively as a spectrum of shifting hints whose lower terms are lost in the night' (the roman type is mine). What is much more serious is the fact that Teilhard habitually and systematically cheats with words. his work, he has assured us, is to be read, not as a metaphysical system, but 'purely and simply as a scientific treatise' executed with 'remorseless' or 'inescapable' logic; yet he uses in metaphor words like energy, tension, force, impetus and dimension as ifthey retained the weight and thrust of their specific scientific usages. Consciousness, for example, is a matter upon which Teilhard has been said to have illuminating views. For the most part consciousness is treated as a manifestation of energy, though this does not help us very much because the word 'energy' is itself debauched; but elsewhere we learn that consciousness is a dimension, or is something with mass, or is something corpuscular and particulate which can exist in various degrees of concentration, being sometimes infinitely diffuse. In his lay capacity, Teilhard, a naturalist, practised a comparatively humble and unexacting kind of science, but he must have known better than to play such tricks as these. On page 60 we read:

    The simplest form of protoplasm is already a substance of unheard-of complexity. This complexity increases in geometrical progression as pass from the protozoon higher and higher up the scale of the metazoa. And so it is for the whole of the remainder everywhere and always.

    Later we are told that the 'nascent cellular world shows itself to be already infinitely complex'. This seems to leave little room for improvement. In any event complexity (a subject on which Teilhard has a great deal to say) is not measurable in those scalar quantities to which the concept of geometrical progression applies.


    In spite of all the obstacles that Teilhard perhaps wisely puts in our way, it is possible to discern a train of thought in The Phenomenon of Man. It is founded upon the belief that the fundamental process or motion in the entire universe is evolution, and evolution is 'a general condition to which all theories, all hypotheses, all systems must bow ... a light illuminating all facts, a curve that all lines must follow'. This being so, it follows that 'nothing could ever burst forth as final across the different thresholds successively traversed by evolution ... which has not already existed in an obscure and primordial way' (again my romans). Nothing is wholly new: there is always some primordium or rudiment or archetype of whatever exists or has existed. Love, for example --- 'that is to say, the affinity of being with being' --- is to be found in some form throughout the organic world, and even at a 'prodigiously rudimentary level', for if there were no such affinity between atoms when they unite into molecules it would be 'physically impossible for love to appear higher up, with us, in "hominized" form'. But above all, consciousness is not new, for this would contradict the evolutionary axiom; on the contrary, we are 'logically forced to assume the existence in rudimentary form ... of some sort of psyche in every corpuscle', even in molecules; 'by the very fact of the individualization of our planet, a certain mass of elementary consciousness was originally imprisoned in the matter of earth'.

    What form does this elementary consciousness take? Scientists have not been able to spot it, for they are shallow superficial fellows, unable to see into the inwardness of things --- 'up to now, has science ever trouble to look at the world other than from without?' Consciousness is an interiority of matter, an 'inner face that everywhere duplicates the "material" external face, which alone is commonly considered by science'. To grasp the nature of the within of things we must understand that energy is of two kinds: the 'tangential', which is energy as scientists use that word, and a radial energy (a term used interchangeably with spiritual or psychic energy), of which consciousness is treated sometimes as the equivalent, sometimes as the manifestation, and sometimes as the consequence (there is no knowing what Teilhard intends). Radial energy appears to be a measure of, or what conduces towards, complexity or degree of arrangement; thus 'spiritual energy, by its very nature, increases in "radial" value ... in step with the increasing chemical complexity of the elements of which it represents the inner lining'. It confers centricity, and 'the increase of the synthetic state of matter involves ... an increase of consciousness'.

    We are now therefore in a position to understand what evolution is (is nothing but). Evolution is 'the continual growth of ... "psychic" or "radial" energy, in the course of duration, beneath and within the mechanical energy I called "tangential" '; evolution, then is 'am ascent towards consciousness'. It follows that evolution must have a 'precise orientation and a privileged axis' at the topmost pole of which lies Man, born 'a direct lineal descendant from the total effort of life.'

    Let us fill in the intermediate stages. Teilhard, with a penetrating insight that Sir Julian Huxley singles out for special praise, discerns that consciousness in the everyday sense is somehow associated with the possession of nervous systems and brains ('we have every reason to think that in animals too a certain inwardness exists, approximately proportional to the development of their brains'). The direction of evolution must therefore be towards cerebralisation, that is, towards becoming brainier. 'Among the infinite modalities in which the complication of life is dispersed,' he tells us, 'the differentiation of nervous tissue stands out ... as a significant transformation. It provides a direction; and by its consequences it proves that evolution has a direction.' All else is equivocal and insignificant; in the process of becoming brainier we find 'the very essence of complexity, of essential metamorphosis'. And if we study the evolution of living things, organic evolution, we shall find that in every one of its lines, except only in those in which it does not occur, evolution is an evolution towards increasing complexity of the nervous system and cerebralisation. Plants don't count, to be sure (because 'in the vegetable kingdom we are unable to follow along a nervous system the evolution of a psychism obviously remaining diffuse'), and the contemplation of insects provokes a certain shuffling of the feet [p. 153]; but primates are 'a phylum of pure and direct cerebralization' and among them 'evolution went straight to work on the brain, neglecting everything else'. Here is Teilhard's description of noogenesis, the birth of higher consciousness among the primates, and of the noosphere in which that higher consciousness is deployed:

    By the end of the Tertiary era, the psychical temperature in the cellular world had been rising for more than 500 million years ... When the anthropoid, so to speak, had been brought 'mentally' to boiling-point some further calories were added ... No more was needed for the whole inner equilibrium to be upset ... By a tiny 'tangential' increase, the 'radial' was turned back on itself and so to speak took an infinite leap forward. Outwardly, almost nothing in the organs had change. But in depth, a great revolution had taken place: consciousness was now leaping and boiling in a space of super-sensory relationships and representations
    ...
    The analogy, it should be explained, is with the vaporization of water when it is brought to boiling-point, and the image of hot vapor remains when all else is forgotten.

    I do not propose to criticize the fatuous argument I have just outlined; here, to expound is to expose. What Teilhard seems to be trying to say is that evolution is often (he says always) accompanied by an increase of orderliness or internal coherence or degree of integration. In what sense is the fertilized egg that develops into an adult human being 'higher' than, say, a bacterial cell? In the sense that it contains richer and more complicated genetical instructions for the execution of those processes that together constitute development. Thus Teilhard's radial, spiritual or psychic energy may be equated to 'information' or 'information content' in the sense that has been made reasonably precise by modern communication engineers. To equate it to consciousness, or to regard degree of consciousness as a measure of information content, is one of the silly little metaphysical conceits I mentioned in an earlier paragraph. Teilhard's belief, enthusiastically shared by Sir Julian Huxley, that evolution flouts or foils the second law of thermodynamics is based on a confusion of thought; and the idea that evolution has a main track or privileged axis is unsupported by scientific evidence.

    Teilhard is widely believed to have rejected the modern Mendelian-Darwinian theory of evolution or to have demonstrated its inadequacy. Certainly he imports a ghost, the entelechy or élan vital of an earlier terminology, into the Mendelian machine; but he seems to accept the idea that evolution is probationary and exploratory and mediated through a selective process, a 'groping', a 'billionfold trial and error; 'far be it from me', he declares, 'to deny its importance'. Unhappily Teilhard has no grasp of the real weakness of modern evolutionary theory, namely its lack of a complete theory of variation, of the origin of candidature for evolution. It is not enough to say that 'mutation' is ultimately the source of all genetical diversity, for that is merely to give the phenomenon a name: mutation is so defined. What we want, and what we are slowly beginning to get, is a comprehensive theory of the forms in which new genetical information comes into being. It may, as I have hinted elsewhere, turn out to be of the nature of nucleic acids and the chromosomal apparatus that they tend spontaneously to proffer genetical variants --- genetical solutions to the problem of remaining alive --- which are more complex and more elaborate than the immediate occasion calls for; but to construe this 'complexification' as a manifestation of consciousness is a wilful abuse of words.

    Teilhard's metaphysical argument begins where the scientific argument leaves off, and the gist of it is extremely simple. Inasmuch as evolution is the fundamental motion of the entire universe, an ascent along a privileged and necessary pathway towards consciousness, so it follows that our present consciousness must 'culminate forwards in some sort of supreme consciousness'. In expounding this thesis, Teilhard becomes more and more confused and excited and finally almost hysterical. The Supreme Consciousness, which apparently assimilates to itself all our personal consciousnesses, is, or is embodied in, 'Omega' or the Omega-point; in Omega 'the movement of synthesis culminates'. Now Omega is 'already in existence and operative at the very core of the thinking mass', so if we have our wits about us we should at this moment be able to detect Omega as 'some excess of personal, extra-human energy', the more detailed contemplation of which will disclose the Great Presence. Although already in existence, Omega is added to progressively: 'All round us, one by one, like a continual exhalation, "souls" break away, carrying upwards their incommunicable load of consciousness', and so we end up with 'a harmonized collectivity of consciousnesses equivalent to a sort of super-consciousness'.

    Teilhard devotes some little thought to the apparently insuperable problem of how to reconcile the persistence of individual consciousnesses with their assimilation to Omega. But the problem yields to the application of 'remorseless logic'. The individual particles of consciousness do not join up any old how, but only center to center, thanks to the mediation of Love; Omega, then, 'in its ultimate principle, can only be a distinct Center radiating at the core of a system of centers', and the final state of the world is one in which 'unity coincides with a paroxysm of harmonized complexity'. And so our hero escapes from his dire predicament: with one bound Jack was free.

    Although elsewhere Teilhard has dared to write an equation so explicit as 'Evolution = Rise of Consciousness' he does not go so far as to write 'Omega = God'; but in the course of some obscure pious rant he does tell us that God, like Omega, is a 'Center of centers', and in one place he refers to 'God-Omega'.


    How have people come to be taken in by The Phenomenon of Man? We must not underestimate the size of the market for works of this kind, for philosophy-fiction. Just as compulsory primary education created a market catered for by cheap dailies and weeklies, so the spread of secondary and latterly tertiary education has created a large population of people, often with well-developed literary and scholarly tastes, who have been educated far beyond their capacity to undertake analytical thought. It is through their eyes that we must attempt to see the attractions of Teilhard, which I shall jot down in the order in which they come to mind.

    The Phenomenon of Man is anti-scientific in temper (scientists are shown up as shallow folk skating about on the surface of things), and, as if that were not recommendation enough, it was written by a scientist, a fact which seems to give it particular authority and weight. Laymen firmly believe that scientists are one species of person. They are not to know that different branches of science require very different aptitudes and degrees of skill for their prosecution. Teilhard practised an intellectually unexacting kind of science in which he achieved a moderate proficiency. He has no grasp of what makes a logical argument or of what makes for proof. He does not even preserve the common decencies of scientific writing, though his book is professedly a scientific treatise.
    It is written in an all but totally unintelligible style, and this is construed as prima-facie evidence of profundity. (At present this applies only to works of French authorship; in later Victorian and Edwardian times the same deference was thought due to Germans, with equally little reason.) It is because Teilhard has such wonderful deep thoughts that he's so difficult to follow --- really it's beyond my poor brain but doesn't that just show how profound and important it must be?

    It declares that Man is in a sorry state, the victim of a 'fundamental anguish of being', a 'malady of space-time', a sickness of 'cosmic gravity'. The Predicament of Man is all the rage now that people have sufficient leisure and are sufficiently well fed to contemplate it, and many a tidy literary reputation has been built upon exploiting it; anybody nowadays who dared to suggest that the plight of man might not be wholly desperate would get a sharp rap over the knuckles in any literary weekly. Teilhard not only diagnoses in everyone the fashionable disease but propounds a remedy for it --- yet a remedy so obscure and so remote from the possibility of application that it is not likely to deprive any practitioner of a living.

    The Phenomenon of Man was introduced to the English-speaking world by Sir Julian Huxley, who, like myself, finds Teilhard somewhat difficult to follow ('If I understood him aright'; 'here his thought is not fully clear to me'; etc.). Unlike myself, Sir Julian finds Teilhard in possession of a 'rigorous sense of values', one who 'always endeavored to think concretely'; he was speculative, to be sure, but his speculation was 'always disciplined by logic'. But then it does not seem to me that Huxley expounds Teilhard's argument; his Introduction does little more than to call attention to parallels between Teilhard's thinking and his own. Chief among these is the cosmic significance attached to a suitably generalized conception of evolution --- a conception so diluted or attenuated in the course of being generalized as to cover all events or phenomena that are not immobile in time. In particular, Huxley applauds the, in my opinion, mistaken belief that the so-called 'psychosocial evolution' of mankind and the genetical evolution of living organisms generally are two episodes of a continuous integral process (though separated by a 'critical point', whatever that may mean). Yet for all this Huxley finds it impossible to follow Teilhard 'all the way in his gallant attempt to reconcile the supernatural elements in Christianity with the facts and implications of evolution'. But, bless my soul, this reconciliation is just what Teilhard's book is about!

    I have read and studied The Phenomenon of Man with real distress, even with despair. Instead of wringing our hands over the Human Predicament, we should attend to those parts of it which are wholly remediable, above all to the gullibility which makes it possible for people to be taken in by such a bag of tricks as this. If it were an innocent, passive gullibility it would be excusable; but all too clearly, alas, it is an active willingness to be deceived.



    Peter Medawar

    Sir Peter B. Medawar, OM, FRS (1915--1987). British immunologist of Arab extraction (which, as he said in Memoir of a Thinking Radish, makes him sound like a kind of gum). Won the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 1960 for work on tissue transplantation which eventually helped make organ transplants possible. In addition, he wrote extensively, and extremely well, on science and philosophy.
    ``Biology and Man's Estimation of Himself''
    ``On `The Effecting of All Things Possible' ''
    ``Does Ethology Throw Any Light on Human Behavior?''
    ``The Future of Man,'' the last of six lectures of the same title. This one is on ``exosomatic'' (i.e., mental) evolution and heredity.
    Review of Pierre Teilhard de Chardin's The Phenomenon of Man
    ``Technology and Evolution''
    http://vserver1.cscs.lsa.umich.edu/~crshalizi/Medawar/



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    Pantheist Mysticism

    Pantheist Mysticism vs. Created Reality

    Ellen Myers

    The orthodox Christian believes in the God of the Bible Who is apart from and above all things visible and invisible as their Creator out of nothing, and their sovereign Lord and Sustainer. The atheist believes that there is no God, claiming that empirically verifiable matter in motion is all there is. Such empirical reductionism is becoming eclipsed today, however, by what Thomas Molnar has calledthe spontaneous bent of the archaic mind which predominated in most parts of the world and which threatens to prevail once more in our time the temptation. to identify God and self, to recognize in the soul a divine substance, indeed the seat of divinity.1

    We are witnessing the phenomenal growth of revived pantheist mysticism, which believes that God and nature are fundamentally one. To the modern "Western" as to the traditional "Eastern" pantheist mystic, "(t)here is no God 'out there' to relate to; there is only one's own inner divinity to discover."2 The historical roots of pantheist mysticism are ancient indeed. One modern pantheist mystic was Pitirim A. Sorokin (1889-1968), chairman of the department of sociology at Harvard University from 1930-1959. He stated that the roots of his religious philosophy, "Integralism," were in ... the ancient, powerful, and perennial stream of philosophical thought represented by Taoism, the Upanishads, and Bhagavad Gita. shared by all branches of Buddhism, including the Zen Buddhist thinkers. . by Heraclitus and Plato. . . reiterated by. . thinkers of the Neo-Platonic, the Hermetic, the Orphic, and other currents of thought.3

    During the first three centuries A.D. several schools of pantheist mystic thought engaged in a protracted struggle against fledgling Christianity. They came to be known as "gnosticism" because they emphasized "gnosis" (Greek for "knowledge"), a special, esoteric type of knowledge available only to an inner spiritual elite of enlightened ("illuminated") initiates who had supposedly actualized their own latent divinity by means of their knowledge. Gnosticism comprised a very heterogeneous assortment of esoteric cults and teachings. All of them denied Biblical creation ex nihilo, "the Hebrew-Christian concept of separating God and man as Creator and created, or not confusing their natures, their persons, their powers."4

    Molnar shows that when Gnosticism was defeated by the spreading Christian faith in the fifth century A.D., it was not totally extirpated but went underground, to survive and eventually resurface, especially during the Renaissance. One of its branches was "the Jєωιѕн Cabala which claimed to go back to the Jews' captivity in Babylon where they had supposedly studied the Brahmanic texts of india, and, later, the Persian spirituality."5 Another major strand of gnostic-pantheist mysticism Rosicrucianism goes back to Egypt, to the Persian magi, the Pythagoreans of ancient Greece, and to Arabia. Gnostic-pantheist mysticism in the forms of esoteric Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, astrology and alchemy also flourished during the late Middle Ages and the Renaissance. Astrology and alchemy are "as old as the earliest mining and metallurgical activities of men . These esoteric teachings are intimately related."6 These teachings are in vogue again in our own days, sometimes violently. R.C. Zaehner, an Oxford historian of Oriental religions, has shown the link between ancient Brahmanic thought, the practice of Zen, and the beliefs of the Charles Manson Family, the Satanist cult which shocked America with the Tate-La Bianca murders in August 1 959~7 Revived astrology meets us today in every major daily newspaper.

    Since alchemy, an important part of the pantheist mystic revival in the late Middle Ages and the Renaissance, is supposedly extinct today, the following points need to be made. Gary North has written:

    The mental image of the alchemist in the minds of most people, if any, is that of . . . the precursor of the modern chemist. Take one alchemist, remove his lust for gold, add the principles of secular Enlightenment philosophy, plus a dash of Cartesian methodology, and shake gently for two centuries; out pops modern chemistry. Not so. It was not the Enlightenment which produced modern science, but the Reformation (North bases this statement upon Robert K. Merton's doctoral dissertation, Social Theory and Social Structure, Glencoe, IL: Free Press, 1957, chapter 18) . . alchemy was established on the principle of secret knowledge. It was the science of Gnosticism. Its technique was based on the idea that in the endless mixing of the same chemicals chemical opposites they would somehow transcend themselves after a hundred or a thousand repetitions.8

    Now this tenet of alchemy that, given enough time and trials, chemicals will somehow transcend themselves is nothing but the scenario of modern emergent evolutionism. It resembles George Wald's famous dictum that if given enough time, the emergence of life from non-life by random processes, which is impossible according to modern scientific research and data, becomes possible, probable, and eventually virtually certain. It reminds us of the steady-state hypothesis of the origin of the universe proposed by Fred Hoyle in 1948 (and abandoned by him in 1965), which posits that there is such a thing as self-creating matter, namely. hydrogen, which, given enough time, condenses into galaxies, within which evolve stars, planets, animals and people. Another twentieth-century alchemist or rather, emergent evolutionist is the patron saint of "theistic" evolution, Pierre Teilhard de Chardin (1881-1955). Teuhard's typically gnostic-pantheist-mystic world view envisions the emergence of God from matter. culminating in the total transformation of matter into God, or "pure Spirit," or "Point Omega", or "the cosmic Christ." Teilhard himself wondered whether this Christ was the same as the Christ of the Gospels, in a letter to his close friend, Leontine Zanta.9

    Lurking behind the transformation of matter into spirit is the transformation of man into God. Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier wrote:

    The real aim of the alchemist's activities. . is the transformation of the alchemist himself, his accession to a higher state of consciousness. The material results are only a pledge of the final result, which is spiritual. Everything is oriented towards the transmutation of man himself, towards his deification, his fusion with the divine energy, the fixed center from which all material energies emanate.10
    Now since there is no room for a God "out there" who can bestow grace on man to do His will, man's mandate in the gnostic-pantheist mystic scheme of emergent evolution participation in God depends upon the initiative of man. Therefore it is all-important to discover and practice proper techniques to contact and fuse with one's "deepest self", "divine essence," or "universal Mind" (the terminology of pantheist mysticism varies). This inner divine essence is also the "self," "essence", "mind" or "spirit" permeating everyone and everything else in the pantheist-mystic scheme, (Separation between men and animals, plants and minerals is of course fundamentally an illusion in pantheist mysticism.) Thus it is not surprising that Sorokin, as the head of an endowment-funded organization known as the Harvard Center for Creative Altruism, conducted an analysis of
    …the ancient techniques of Yogas, Buddhism, Zen-Buddhism, Sufism the techniques invented by the founders of great religious and monastic orders Oriental and Occidental . . . the techniques of the eminent secular educators, such as Comenius, Pestalozzi, Montessori, Froebel and others.11

    The goal of this analysis was "increased 'production, accuмulation, and circulation of love energy,' . . . an extension of unselfish love of everyone on everyone in mankind,"12 Most of these same techniques are included in an exhaustive list of "psychotechnologies systems for a deliberate change in consciousness"13 by Marilyn Ferguson, an enthusiastic pantheist mystic, in her important book The Aquarian Conspiracy published 1980. The list contains many ultra-modern techniques not yet invented, or still controversial, during the life of Sorokin. Here is a condensation of Ferguson's list:

    Sensory isolation and overload: biofeedback; chanting; Psychodrama; the "consciousness-raising" strategies of various social movements calling attention to old assumptions; self-help and mutual-help networks cooperating with "higher forces" (sic) by looking inward; hypnosis and self-hypnosis; meditation including Zen, Tibetan Buddhist, chaotic, Transcendental, Kabbalist, kundalini, raja yoga, tantric yoga, etc.; various shamanic and magical techniques; seminars "which attempt to break the cultural trance and open the individual to new choices"; dream journals; Arica, Theosophy, and Gurdjieffian systems "which synthesize many different mystical traditions and teach techniques for altering awareness;
    Contemporary psychotherapies; body disciplines and therapies, such as hatha yoga, Reichian, the Bates system for vision improvement, aikido, karate, running, dance; sensitivity groups, encounter groups; solitary activities "which foster self-discovery and a sense of timelessness."14

    Ferguson anticipated and endorsed the consensus of leading evolutionists gathered in Chicago in October 1980, and then publicized by Science and Time, that the Darwinian gradualist evolution model is obsolete in view of the fossil record. She welcomes the replacement model proposed by Stephen Jay Gould of Harvard and Niles Eldredge of the American Museum of History, "punctualism" or "punctuated equilibrium," as significant because…it opens us up to the possibility of rapid evolution in our own time, when the equilibrium of the species is punctuated by stress., . Pioneering becomes an increasingly psychospiritual venture since our physical frontiers are all but exhausted, short of space exploration. Given what we are learning about the nature of profound change, transformation of the human species seems less and less improbable.15

    Ferguson also speculates that mankind's imminent "evolutionary leap" may be prompted by a "collective need," and lead to a community analogous to a Kenyan flattid-bug community which "is, in a sense, a single individual, a single mind, whose genes were influenced by its collective need."16 Just how the exterior "collective need" can change genetic material is not spelled out. The horrendous pictures of genetic manipulation ("the Bokanovsky process") to produce human flattid-bugs or ants imagined by Aldous Huxley in Brave New World are overlooked. So are the even more frightening pictures of psychological conditioning combined with torture (i.e. brainwashing) to produce human flattid-bugs or ants painted by George Orwell in 1984 (with Communism and nαzιsm as its real-life models). There is no hint in Ferguson that some of her recommended "psychotechnologies" are well-known ingredients in the brainwashing systems of modern totalitarian states (such as sensitivity and encounter groups, "sensory isolation and overload," or "solitary activities which foster self-discovery and a sense of timelessness"). Some of Ferguson's "psychotechnologies" are plain witchcraft ("various shamanic and magical techniques"). A certain camouflage, including occasional deceptive references to Bible passages and supposedly Christian beliefs and practices, is part of her presentation.

    The approval of mankind's "evolutionary leap" into one single world-wide collective of necessity includes a push for openness towards communist views. Thus Stephen Jay Gould is quoted by Ferguson in connection with the new punctualist" evolution model:

    …we should consider alternative philosophies of change to enlarge our realm of constraining prejudices. In the Soviet Union, for example, scientists are trained with a very different philosophy of change They speak of the "transformation of quantity into quality." This may sound like mumbo jumbo, but it suggests that change occurs in large leaps following a slow accuмulation of stresses that a system resists until it reaches the breaking point. Heat water and it eventually reaches a boiling point. Oppress the workers more and more and they suddenly break their chains.17

    Gould's and the Soviet philosophy of change as "transformation of quantity into quality" parallels Teilhard de Chardin's dream of transformation of matter into spirit. Teilhard also fervently desired mankind's progress (?) toward a collective status like that of the Kenyan flattid-bugs. For example, in his essay "The Spirit of the Earth" he wrote about the "conspiracy" (sic) of individuals from every class and background he had seen while visiting America in 1931, and which, he thought (probably correctly), was engaged in a great effort to raise mankind to a new, higher stage, when men would "shake off their ancient prejudices and turn as one Man (emphasis added) to building the earth."18

    It should not surprise us that the goal of pantheist mystics is a collectivistic "one world." Such a world would merely incarnate the pantheistic oneness they see underneath all things. What some of them may sincerely not perceive (Teilhard stressed his belief in "democracy"), or may willingly deceive themselves and each other into overlooking, is that all societies built by pantheist mystics in the past, or envisioned in fundamentally pantheist-mystical utopian fiction, have been variations of the Soviet inferno of the "Gulag Archipelago,"19 and must be such of necessity! For a collective society is administered by an oligarchy or a dictator, and for it to behave "as one Man" means the strict enforcement of total bondage to the administrators. A society cannot be truly pluralistic and monolithic at one and the same time. If mankind's next "evolutionary leap" makes mankind "in a sense, a single individual" then woe to men and women who will not fit the collective mold! They must be conformed to it by any and all means (for indeed that end, world-wide oneness in fusion with the god of the world justifies all means!) - or they must be discarded in the name of their own and the collective's welfare, the definition of "love." (And since they merely dissolve into chemicals when they are discarded - which chemicals still belong to the one world what harm is done, anyway? In the pantheist mystics' world, you can do no real wrong.) How fittingly Orwell named his "change agency for the transformation of society" "the Ministry of Love ("Miniluv")" in 1984!

    This inherent pantheist-mystic drift toward totalitarianism may explain the curious blindness often found in the writings of pantheist mystics towards communist reality, and even occasionally towards fascism or nαzιsm. It is part of their all-pervading and fatuous optimism about the future "one world", which in turn is rooted in their denial of original sin. Again, if the reality in which we live and move is "all one" if "God" is us and we are God then the concept of good and evil as absolute opposites must be false. At most, "good" and "evil" are bound up with the pantheist world's evolutionary process This process is fondly seen in a continuous upward or forward direction in which, in horrible perversion of Romans 8:28, "all things work together for good."

    Thus Teilhard could believe that the end of evolution was man joining with other men to make a kind of simple organism with a single Personal God. When that goal was reached, he proclaimed, "Everything that is hard, crusty, or rebellious. . . all that is false and reprehensible. . . all that is physically or morally evil will disappear . . . Matter will be absorbed into Spirit."20 Teilhard could also "once again" suggest in 1948 "the adoption of a truly human faith" combining the "rational force of Marxism" with the "human warmth of Christianity."21 The French Communist Roger Garaudy could quote Teilhard at some length in defending Communist-Roman Catholic dialogue, and he concluded his argument with a statement by Teilhard: "The synthesis of the (Christian! God of the Above and the (Marxist! God of the Ahead: this is the only God whom we shall in the future be able to adore in spirit and in truth."22 Teilhard also asserted in The Future of Man that "the modern totalitarian regimes, whatever their initial defects, are neither heresies nor biological regressions: they are in line with the essential trend of 'cosmic' movement."23 In Science and Christ he wrote: "Fascism represents possibly a blueprint, rather successfully done, of the world of tomorrow."24 Teilhard also anticipated the transformation of mankind into one single unit by the tool of eugenics, a notorious nαzι "change agent" to transform Germany into a pure Aryan society. In a 1946 debate on the subject of "Science and Rationality" he shocked the French Catholic philosopher Gabriel Marcel by . . . refusing to permit even the appalling evidence of the experiments of the doctors at Dachau to modify his faith in the inevitability of human progress. "Man," he asserted, "to become fully man, must have tried everything ..." . . . since, unlike the lower animals, man no longer acted purely out of instinct, he would presumably abandon every new experiment the moment he saw it did not lead him to greater personalization..... Prometheus !" Marcel had cried, articulating the astonishment of most of the audience. "No," Teilhard replied, "only man as God has made him."25

    Teilhard also saw the progress of humanity in the invention of nuclear weapons, and thus did not disapprove in principle of the atom-bombing of Hiroshima.26

    It must be pointed out again that these Teilhardian views are not an aberration but rather a corollary of a consistent pantheist mystical world view. Within that view, however, divergence is possible and exists about the final state, goal or consummation of the entire process. Will the end state be personal or impersonal? Here Teilhard opted for progressive personalization. For instance, he objected to a famous Indian guru's "raw pantheism" because "(t)here could be no real love of neighbor without individuation a thing impossible in the pantheist perspective."27 The defense of Teilhard by his adherents against the accusation of heresy, for instance by Henri de Lubac, is based upon such Teilhardian "personalism."

    Teilhard based his reconciliation of man's union with God and man's individuation at first sight incompatible within the pantheist mystic scheme upon his view that "union differentiates." However, union cannot differentiate if understood as fusion of the uniting entities; and it must inevitably be understood fundamentally and ultimately as fusion in a pantheist-mystical world view seeing the whole world as "all-one" already to begin with. Teilhard apparently never resolved this internal contradiction of his thought, but kept defending both distinct personality of individuals, and what he once called "totalization of the individual in the collective man."28 Like Sorokin, Teilhard thought of love as "cosmic energy."29 Viewed from the Biblical perspective, if Satan, the god of this world, and a person, is behind the gnostic-pantheistmystical scheme, as indeed he is according to the Scriptures Ephesians 6:12; I Corinthians 10:20; II Corinthians 4:4), then this internal contradiction between personalism and impersonalism within pantheist mysticism will be resolved in favor of personalism for those more truly attuned to their god.

    Teilhard attempted to present his system as a Christian one, although he himself was aware of the difficulties of doing so. He wrote Leontine Zanta that he was trying to establish and diffuse…a new religion (let's call it an improved Christianity, if you like) whose personal God is no longer the great 'neolithic' landowner of times gone by, but the Soul of the world as demanded by the cultural and religious stage we have now reached.30

    In order to spread this new religion under the label "Christian" which Teilhard desired in his capacity as a French Catholic priest, and a member of the Jesuit order a restatement of pivotal Christian beliefs was imperative. Regarding the doctrine of original sin, Teilhard wrote in a letter to a friend; "Evil is not 'catastrophic' (the fruit of some cosmic accident), but the inevitable side effect of the process of the cosmos unifying into God."31 Here he is merely anticipating what we have said about the pantheist mystics' denial of original sin Denial of original sin entails a reevaluation of the meaning of Christ's death at Calvary for the sins of the world. Teilhard accordingly wrote an essay on the meaning of Christ's cross in September 1952, in which he stated:

    Only when the Church accepted evolution's part in the Divine Plan, he reasoned, and saw the Cross as the symbol of this agonizing process, could she restore true value to the sign.. Only the concept of a Christ who was crucified not simply "to carry the sins of a guilty world" but "to carry the weight of an evolving world" could convert the "sign of contradiction" into the seal of strength.32

    We have dwelled upon Teilhard in so much detail because he is so typical of modern "Western" pantheist mystics. and because they themselves cherish and acknowledge him as one of their most influential spokesmen.33 His church was not blind to his divergence from true Christianity; his prolific writings were and are considered heretical by the papacy, and banned from Catholic schools and bookstores (although this writer's copy of Teilhard's Letters to Leotine Zanta is prefaced by lower Catholic officials' Nihil Obstat and Imprimatur, implying that it is "considered free from doctrinal and moral error"). The papal encyclical Human Generis, issued by Pope Pius XII on August 12, 1950, was directed against Teilhard-type evolutionism in no uncertain terms In Paragraph 37 it upheld the historicity of the first eleven chapters of Genesis, and of a literal "individual Adam" who actually committed a sin from which original sin proceeds.

    Paragraphs states in part: "Some imprudently and indiscreetly hold that evolution, which has not been fully proved even in the domain of natural sciences, explains the origin of all things, and audaciously support the monistic and pantheistic opinion that the world is in continual evolution."34 Paragraph 37 also rules out polygenism (the descent of man from more than one original first man). which was a pet theory of Teilhard's. Paragraph 36 enjoins the discussion of evolution pertaining to the origin of man. . . in such a way that the reasons for both opinions, that is, those favorable and those unfavorable to evolution, be weighed and judged with the necessary seriousness, moderation and measure . . .35

    This sounds very much like the "two-model approach" creationists are demanding in American public schools. Humani Generis should be shared with Catholic friends concerned about evolutionism and Teilhardianism as the papacy's official pronouncement on this issue.

    What is the practical outworking of the pantheist-mystic "conspiracy" right now? Ferguson's listing of certain "psychotechnologies" gives usa cue: (a) the "consciousness-raising" strategies of various social movements calling attention to "old assumptions": (b) self-help and mutual-help networks cooperating with "higher forces" by looking inward: and (c) seminars "which attempt to break the cultural trance and open the individual to new choices." Common to all three is the questioning of "traditional morality" (the "old assumptions" of our supposed "cultural trance"). Now "traditional" morality, though doubtless adulterated by sin, is the offspring of Biblical morality,35 which is rooted in the holiness, wisdom, and sovereign authority the character of the God of Creation. Now as ever since their god "raised the consciousness" of Adam in Eden, pantheist mystics will not submit to the God of the Bible and His created reality.

    They are making tremendous headway today. For example, the "values clarification" techniques now being used in many American public schools37 are evidently part of their intended "transformation of society," in which teachers admittedly function as "change agents." The key premise of "values clarification" is that there is no absolute right or wrong (based upon emergent evolutionism in this monist universe), and that therefore each man, woman and child may and should determine his or her own relative value system or "alternative lifestyle" in which the Charles Manson Family is as good as the Bible-based "traditional" family. The gnostic-pantheist mystic will accept you with tolerant condescension it you refrain from murder, theft, fornication etc. because that is "your own thing." "But the temperature drops," C.S. Lewis wryly remarks, "as soon as you mention a God who has purposes and performs particular actions, who does one thing and not another, a concrete, choosing, commanding, prohibiting God with a determinate character."38 The most furious attack upon Christians today is that we "impose our morality upon others" especially on the subject of abortion, "gαy rights," and even (still mutedly) incest.

    The gnostic-pantheist mystic has ever resented that God created man male and female and charged him with procreation of his kind and with stewardship over the rest of material creation (Genesis 1:27-28). This resentment is directed against the created, fixed identity of man (men and women) and the creative decree of God circuмscribing mankind's duties under Him. It is expressed either by extreme ascetic abstinence from sex and material things the "touch not, taste not, handle not" warned against in Colossians 2:2Off. or else by unbridled indulgence or perversion. This asceticism-libertinism dichotomy has been a notorious aspect of gnostic-pantheist mysticism throughout its history.39 The reasons should be obvious: one, the denial of original and all sin; and second, that once one says, "all is god/spirit" one may (ascetically) shun matter as "illusion" one may plunge into matter as divine one may even gorge upon matter in order to lose one's taste for it and so fuse with "pure spirit" it does not matter which. Ultimately nothing does mailer in the gnostic-pantheist mystic scheme, for despite all the glow of optimism about the next "evolutionary leap" and the upward and forward cosmic movement to some "Omega Point" where all that is is pure spirit no real transcendence to a really "higher state" is possible. If you are already god, and if all that is is already god - and if there is nothing else then haven't you reached your "goal" already? Alternately, is not talk about some future or goal meaningless? This is the ultimate void faced by the pantheist mystic. He has three options: (1) eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow you will die; (2) hasten your absorption into Nirvana where you are freed from individual consciousness (Gautama Buddha's answer); (3) don't think about it all too much. There is, of course, another alternative: call upon the God of Creation and receive your life's meaning in Him, absolutely.

    We must guard against viewing pantheist mysticism as some "new" development of our own day; it is merely the same old "religion" of the worshippers of the god of this world. C.S. Lewis gave us gripping fictional portraits of gnostic-pantheist mystic personalities in his Professor Weston, the "un-Man" of Perelandra, and in Straik, Wither and Frost of That Hideous Strength. Less striking but equally true is this great Christian apologist's sketch of the system itself which will sum up and conclude our discussion:

    So far from being the final religious refinement, Pantheism is in fact the permanent natural bent of the human mind . . It is the attitude into which the human mind automatically falls when left to itself. , . . If "religion" means simply what man says about God, and not what God does about man, then Pantheism almost is religion. And "religion" in that sense has, in the long run, only one really formidable opponent namely Christianity. . . . It is nearly as strong today as it was in ancient India or in ancient Rome. Theosophy and the worship of the life-force are both forms of it: even the German worship of a racial spirit (Lewis wrote shortly after World War II) is only Pantheism truncated or whittled down to suit barbarians. yet, by a strange irony, each new relapse into this immemorial "religion" is hailed as the last word in novelty and emancipation.40
     

    REFERENCES
    1 Thomas Molnar, "The Gnostic Tradition and Renaissance Occultism," The Journal of Christian Reconstruction, Vol.1, No.2 (Winter, 1974), 112.
    2 Pat Means, The Mystical Maze, Campus Crusade for Christ, 1976, 25.
    3 Ellen Myers, "Sorokin's `Integralism' vs. the Biblical Creation Position," Creation Social Science & Humanities Quarterly, Vol.11, No.1 (Fall 1979), 14-15,
    4 Molnar, bc. cit. Also cf. Hans Jonas, The Gnostic Religion, Beacon Press, Boston, Second Enlarged Edition ph. 1963, passim.
    5 Ibid,, 113.
    6 Idem.
    7 Idem. Also cf. the detailed description of the bizarre beliefs of the Manson Family in Ed Sanders, The Family, Avon, New York, First Avon Printing, May, 1972. Chapter Eight, "Helter Skelter," and Chapter Nine, "The Solar Lodge of the O.T.O.", are especially revealing.
    8 Gary North, "The Morning of the Magicians" by Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier, a Book Review, The Journal of Christian Reconstruction, Vol.1, No.2 (Winter, 1974), 184. This writer read the book by Pauwels and Bergier in its entirety at the time of its publication 11973), and agrees with North that it "has now given to Gnosticism an audience wider than GnostICS would ever have believed possible" (loc Cit., 187).
    9 Pierre Teuhard de Chardin, Letter's to Leontine Zanta, Harper & Row, Publishers, New York and Evanston, 1969, 114.
    10 Louis Pauwels and Jacques Bergier, quoted by North in The Journal of Christian Reconstruction, bc. Cit.. 184-185.
    11 Myers, Op Cit., 25.
    12 Idem.
    13 Marilyn Ferguson, The Aquarian Conspiracy, J.P. Tarcher, Inc., 9110 Sunset Blvd., Los Angeles, Calif. 90069,87.
    14 Ibid. 86-87.
    15 Ibid. 159.
    16 Ibid, 162.
    17 Ibid, 160.
    18 Mary Lukas and Ellen Lukas, Tejihard, Doubleday & Co., Inc., Garden City, New York, 1977, 121-132.
    19 cf. IgorShafarevich, The Socialist Phenomenon. Harper & Row, Publishers, New York, 1980. The importance of this thoroughly researched study cannot be overemphasized.
    20 Lukas and Lukas, op. cit., 50.
    21 Ibid, 249.
    22 Leo S. Schumacher, The Truth About Teithard, Twin Circle Publishing Co., 86 Riverside Dr., New York, NY 10024,1968,33. This is a well researched and annotated study by a Catholic priest. Since the original publisher has gone out of business, individual copies of this study may be obtained from Mary Immaculate Queen of the Universe Center, P.O. Box 1207, Coeur d'Alene, Idaho 68814 (price quoted in 1981 was $1.00 per copy ppd.)
    23 Ibid, 34.
    24, Idem.
    25 Lukas and Lukas, Op. Cit., 23

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    On Christ - the "Man-God"


    Summa Theologica - St Thomas Aquinas

    Whether this is true: "Man is God"?

    Objection 1: It would seem that this is false: "Man is God." For God is an incommunicable name; hence (Wis. 13:10; 14:21) idolaters are rebuked for giving the name of God, which is incommunicable, to wood and stones. Hence with equal reason does it seem unbecoming that this word "God" should be predicated of man.

    Objection 2: Further, whatever is predicated of the predicate may be predicated of the subject. But this is true: "God is the Father," or "God is the Trinity." Therefore, if it is true that "Man is God," it seems that this also is true: "Man is the Father," or "Man is the Trinity." But these are false. Therefore the first is false.

    Objection 3: Further, it is written (Ps. 80:10): "There shall be no new God in thee." But man is something new; for Christ was not always man. Therefore this is false: "Man is God."

    On the contrary, It is written (Rom. 9:5): "Of whom is Christ according to the flesh, Who is over all things, God blessed for ever." Now Christ, according to the flesh, is man. Therefore this is true: "Man is God."

    I answer that, Granted the reality of both natures, i.e. Divine and human, and of the union in person and hypostasis, this is true and proper: "Man is God," even as this: "God is man." For this word "man" may stand for any hypostasis of human nature; and thus it may stand for the Person of the Son of God, Whom we say is a hypostasis of human nature. Now it is manifest that the word "God" is truly and properly predicated of the Person of the Son of God, as was said in the FP, Q[39], A[4]. Hence it remains that this is true and proper: "Man is God."

    Reply to Objection 1: Idolaters attributed the name of the Deity to stones and wood, considered in their own nature, because they thought there was something divine in them. But we do not attribute the name of the Deity to the man in His human nature, but in the eternal suppositum, which by union is a suppositum of human nature, as stated above.

    Reply to Objection 2: This word "Father" is predicated of this word "God," inasmuch as this word "God" stands for the Person of the Father. And in this way it is not predicated of the Person of the Son, because the Person of the Son is not the Person of the Father. And, consequently, it is not necessary that this word "Father" be predicated of this word "Man," of which the Word "God" is predicated, inasmuch as "Man" stands for the Person of the Son.

    Reply to Objection 3: Although the human nature in Christ is something new, yet the suppositum of the human nature is not new, but eternal. And because this word "God" is predicated of man not on account of the human nature, but by reason of the suppositum, it does not follow that we assert a new God. But this would follow, if we held that "Man" stands for a created suppositum: even as must be said by those who assert that there are two supposita in Christ [*Cf. Q[2], AA[3],6].


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  • The "adding or taking away" statement in the Book of Apocalypse, refers to the words of that Holy Book itself. It does not proscribe that God cannot give elucidations.

    Our Lord tells Maria Valtorta the reason for the work:




    JESUS : June 16th, 1950


    "Behold, infinite Charity, which is My attribute, has drawn from this most Merciful Heart a new gift of infinite Mercy, of divine Mercy for men: the Work. It was to serve to fortify the three Theological Virtues in their spirits, and the four Cardinal Virtues, and to give My Love, the exact measure of Its dimension to those who are about to be overwhelmed by the hatred of Satan, of the Antichrist and of his servants.

    And I gave the Work in time, before the dreadful appointment, so that it might be spread: as manna and medicine for the multitudes so that they may not die, may not lose their faith because of the events, or curse God or deny His Existence, because, they will say, if He existed He would not have permitted these things—He Who, we were told, can do all things. I gave the Work in time, asking from My first Servants, the Priests, shepherds of souls, the very small, easy, just, and meritorious labor of granting its publication—a minuscule labor compared to My very great Gift and to your very great labor, Maria, accomplished in your physical and moral conditions.3  I gave it in time, I Who am Wisdom and know all, Who am Charity and do all for love, Who am All-seeing and know the right hour for every event or manifestation. I have spoken in every way, with prayers, with prophesies already accomplished, with reprimands also for the Shepherds [who are] non-shepherds who, foolishly secure in their well-being, do not have the compassion to be real Shepherds for their lambs."


       

    Matthew 11:15


    "He that hath ears to hear, let him hear."


    Thus, I hope for the brothers and sisters to discern this work, given the grace it represents for consolation during the imminent chastisement and antichrist.


    God bless all!

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    Our Lord tells Maria Valtorta the reason for the work:




    Andy, why do you not say "Maria Valtorta says Our Lord tells Maria Valtorta the reason for the work"? Wouldn't that be more honest? After all we only have Maria's and her minders' word for it.

    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024

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    Granted you do not accept this revelation, but, something so common to present-day Catholics, why do you have to speak rudely to one of the brothers? Surely you can just speak firmly, yet charitably against the work?


    Fr Pfeiffer's recent sermon is timely:





    Note from 3 mins in:


    1 Peter 1:22

    "Purifying your souls in the obedience of charity, with a brotherly love, from a sincere heart love one another earnestly:"


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  • Jesus Christ is the God-man. Only that and no sophism.

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    To sum up:

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    From Tradition in Action: Valtorta's Poem of the Man-God

    Valtorta’s Poem of the Man-God

    Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.
    Book review of Peom of the Man-God by Maria Valtorta,    10 volumes, online edition
     

     


    Quote from: Stephanos II

    Tradition in Action, where the original post is from, is run by Catholic scholars who are very accurate in what they say.

    As for EWTN - that is NO endorsement at all.

    I watched EWTN and "mother Angelica" on Television and listened on Short Wave Radio to them for over 15 years ending a couple of years after Angelica was struck down, I believe, as punishment from God for her endorsing every V2 lie that came down the road and claiming that it was pre-conciliar truly Traditional Catholic. She never missed an opportunity to bad mouth His Excellency Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and claimed that every and all Traditional Catholics and Traditional Catholic movements, unless they were endorsed by the Novus Ordo sect, was rank heresy going to hell. She particularly singled out Archbishop Marcel Lefebvre and the SSPX for her hatred. She endorsed every looney tune Charismatic with every imaginable "message" that proclaimed every heresy that the real Church had condemned through the ages as a new sudden revelation. As for Benedict Groeschel, see below in the article about EWTN, in addition to what they say about him, he always defended the pederast "bishops."

    Our Lord Jesus Christ said:

    Matthew 24:
    24 For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect.
    25 Behold I have told it to you, beforehand.
    26 If therefore they shall say to you: Behold he is in the desert, go ye not out: Behold he is in the closets, believe it not


    - See the below, it very accurately describes "mother Angelica" and EWTN to a tee:

    EWTN, Mother Angelica and the Charismatic Movement Exposed


    Quote from: Stephanos II
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    Tradition in Action, where the original post is from, is run by Catholic scholars who are very accurate in what they say.



    Tradition in Action here: Tradition in Action is the site of Atila Sinke Guimarães who wrote the first comprehensive critique showing the immense errors of V2, "In the Murky Waters of Vatican II," by Atila Sinke Guimarães, Volume I From the Collection: Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani?.

    See this here for excerpts-

    In the Murky Waters of Vatican II by Atila Sinke Guimarães, Volume I From the Collection: Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani?


    See this -

    In the Murky Waters of Vatican II by Atila Sinke Guimarães, Volume I From the Collection: Eli, Eli, Lamma Sabacthani?

    The Apostasy of the False Council of Vatican II



    __________________________________________________________________


    Be warned, the whole idea of a Man-God, is formally speaking in Catholic Theology the Antichrist as the Simia Christi or Ape of Christ by the instigation of Satan speaking the same lie the Devil spoke in the Garden of Eden, that man could become God.

    That is NOT Our Lord Jesus Christ. He is the God-man. God who became man. The difference between the two, the Man-God and the God-man, is infinite and absolute. Man-God is from the Devil - PERIOD.

    God took flesh and became man. Man did not take Godhood from God the Father and become God.

    St. Paul said: Romans 10:6
    But the justice which is of faith, speaketh thus: Say not in thy heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? that is, to bring Christ down;

    The God-man is Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. He is emphatically NOT the Man-God; that is blasphemous Satanic apostate absolute heresy to call Him that.

    The Man-God also has its roots in Teilhard de Chardin's utter apostasy. More coming on that.



    The Man-God also has its roots in Teilhard de Chardin's utter apostasy. More coming on that.


    See here:

    Marie Joseph Pierre Teilhard de Chardin SJ 1881-1955 fake and apostate - The Phenomenon of Man - evolutionary witchcraft of the Devil


    The Apostates who mock God and His Christ in former Catholic, Protestant and Christian churches are led by the spirit of theistic pantheism - God blended with self and universe and mystical experience, in a word: "witchcraft."

    Galatians 5:
    20 Idolatry, witchcrafts, enmities, contentions, emulations, wraths, quarrels, dissensions, sects,
    21 ... Of the which I foretell you, as I have foretold to you, that they who do such things shall not obtain the kingdom of God.

    Father Malachi Martin - witness to the Truth: Primacy: How the Institutional Roman Catholic Church Became a Creature of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr

    Pierre Teilhard de Chardin the practicing witch.



    Primacy: How the Institutional Roman Catholic Church Became a Creature of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr was to be Father Martin's last book. Then he was murdered, same as Father Vincent Miceli was a few years before. Whenever anyone who knows the inside tells the truth about the Vatican since its total Apostasy from God at Vatican II, the Judenratz-Freemasonic crime cartel Rosicrucian Satanists will murder them.

    Doctrinally, at the core of the Apostasy of Vatican II was and is Modernism. Below is Father Malachi Martin's expose of that evil godless heresy.

    This is from: The Jesuits, The Society of Jesus and the Betrayal of the Roman Catholic Church, by Malachi Martin 1987, ISBN: 0-671-54505-1
    All copyrighted sources are quoted and used for comment and education in accord with the nonprofit provisions of: Title 17 U.S.C., Section 107. The use of all these sources is in accordance with Title 17 U.S.C., Section 107 and is protected under the Fair Use doctrine.

    pp. 264-284 Wherein Father Martin’s history and indictment of the Modernists is presented. Father Martin utterly rejected modernism and showed it for what it was, the rejection of God and His Christ and the whole faith.

    264 THE LIBERATORS

    “We humans have our rightful place in the long, still-unfolding drama, the biological adventure that is cosmic development,” said the nineteenth-century unbeliever, looking up from his microscope. “From the worm up to man! Come! Join in!”

    The new humanism underlined our privilege of being human together in a purely material cosmos. It championed human membership in that cosmos as something inherent in cosmic history, a happenstance that dated from remote beginnings in the primeval “soup” of lifeless chemicals on an ancient morning, all the way to the erect posture of Homo sapiens, and down to the scientist, the scholar at work on fossils and atoms, and his more practical- minded colleagues, the new social engineers. We are “brothers of the boulders, sisters of the stars,” in the words of one latter-day scientist.

    Everything about the new unbelief was different from the past. In its heyday during the nineteenth and three-quarters of the twentieth centuries, the new unbelievers and those who understood them called the new attitude or outlook “being modem” or “modernist.” Modernism became the normal mode of thinking congenial to the unbelievers of Western nations. The Modernist mind foresees all sorts of “goodies” for mankind, and quite a spectacular development, if people will only consent to change.

    The one obstacle to that sustained and spectacular development Modernism promised was a certain stubborn resistance to change, a certain fixity of religious belief, the clinging by many to ancient dogmas. Of course, any organized religion presented such an obstacle. But, for the new race of unbelievers and Modernists, the Christian churches and in particular the Roman Catholic Church were the prime creators of the obstacle.

    No church, however, had had the history of the Catholic Church in this matter, because for hundreds of years Rome actually fed, regulated, and controlled all intellectual and artistic development in Europe and Latin America. By the end of the nineteenth century, Catholic clerical regulation of learning, research, and inquiry had had a long history marked by bitter experiences of ecclesiastical control over human destinies.

    The new breed of unbelievers automatically had a deep antipathy for that control by churchmen. It had retarded man’s develop. ment, they said. It offended man’s dignity. Clerics themselves spoiled the natural unity of men by their churlish divisiveness, and their quarrels over abstract ideas and propositions and dogmas

    —formulated by other men long dead and moldering in dust— impeded modernity. Worst of all, clerics forbade change. They al-

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    -lowed no adaptation. If that clericalism and ecclesiastical control could be liquidated, men would be free to develop and meet the challenges of a new world.

    The attitude, this increasingly militant, anticlerical unbelief, stood for what has come to be called secular humanism.

    Unbelief, of itself, could not unseat popular belief and attachment to traditional religion among the masses of ordinary people. The very language it spoke was unintelligible to the ordinary mind. Of its very nature it was a development that suited the sophisticated minds of the learned, the well-educated.

    For churchmen, on the other hand, as well as for other religious leaders and thinkers, theologians and social scientists, the new attitude represented a cup of fresh, sparkling water held out to them in what had become for many a tiring, wearisome, repetif tious desert. There was, in fact, a noticeable lassitude, an uninventiveness, a sameness and monotony, to be found in the thought of Roman Catholic thinkers of the early nineteenth century. The dominant trait was a siege mentality. Historical events—the French Revolution; the Napoleonic wars; the rise of such great Protestant powers as the British, German, and Dutch empires, and the American Union; the rabid anticlericalism rampant in Europe
    —reduced Catholic intellectual activity to the spasmic reactions of retort, refutation, repetition.

    Adding a taste of gall to this barren monotony was the obvious progress of science, and the substantial social betterment achieved by people who were either unbelievers or at least dead set against Rome, Romanism, and the intellectual tradition of Rome.

    A great desire to join in the success, to participate in the “new age,” to be colleagues of those who were pushing the frontiers of human knowledge far beyond all conceivable limits, began to play on the intelligentsia of the Church. Surely, they concluded, the Church must also evolve and therefore change. They too (in the Swami’s words) were “climbing up from truth to truth that is higher.”
    Not surprisingly, the one visible and known organization that perceived clearly what harm this Modernism could wreak on its very soul was the Roman Catholic Church. For if Modernism were accepted, the backbone of Roman Catholicism would be broken, and before long its body would be an eviscerated ruin.
    Roman Catholicism was built on fixed dogma and belief, and was tied irrevocably to the tradition that the personal representative of God on earth lived in a small but distinct enclave on the banks of the Tiber in Rome, Italy. From there, he authoritatively

    266 THE LIBERATORS

    claimed fixed truths about belief and morality. There was a whole gamut of such traditional teachings dealing with every aspect of human life from before the womb to after the tomb and beyond, into God’s eternity. Such traditions could not be changed without altering Catholicism completely.

    Already in the 1840s, Italian philosopher Vincenzo Gioberti stated flatly that “the Church will have to reconcile herself with the spirit of the age. . . and with modem times. . . .“ Otherwise, he said, the Church would perish. Within thirty years of Gioberti’s death in 1852, leading Catholic scholars in France and Italy had succuмbed to the power and charm of the new outlook. The continual progress of science, a new cast to the studies of Biblical scholars, the huge vogue of Darwinian evolution, were beginning to have their effect. Supernatural revelation and knowledge, wrote Monsignor d’Hulst, Rector of the Institut Catholique in Paris, must not only look reasonable; it must be “reasonable, if it were to enter the mainstream.”

    In practice, of course, this and other statements like it meant that if a conflict of ideas arose between Church teaching and science, the Church should modify or do away with her teaching.

    Instead, however, the Roman Catholic Church attacked Modernism directly and by name as a heretical belief on a par with such major heresies of prior ages as Arianism and Pelagianism back in the third and fourth centuries. It pilloried the main principle of Modernism, that all of religion changes, must change, with all of culture according as men make progress and become better in their humanness. The Church of Rome forbade anyone even tinged with Modernism to occupy a teaching post in its seminaries and universities. Church authorities hounded any such people out of all positions of influence. It imposed a solemn oath of abjuration of Modernism on all its theologians. Publicly and officially, Modernism had no chance of resisting the papal attack within the confines of the Church.
    Nevertheless, covert though it was, Modernism made its inroads in the Church. For the intellectual, for the culturally sophisticated, there remained that winsome attraction of the unbeliever

    —as well as his modernity. The Modernist mind was that of hundreds who helped mightily in bettering man’s lot. He originated socially beneficial legislation. Modernists championed the underdog. They displayed none of the hate that was rife between differing religions. They claimed no infallibility. Surely, it was argued by Catholic theologians, there must be some truth in a lot of what the Modernists proposed?

    267 THE WINSOME DOCTRINE

    We know of scores of Roman Catholic thinkers and theologians who felt that their Church’s ban on Modernism was ill-conceived, myopic, the product of an archaic mentality and medieval superstition, a reaction of fear. Most of them were punished. Most of them submitted—some genuinely, others as a matter of form—in order to survive and await a better day. They went underground.

    We also have on record what the attitude was in the Society of Jesus on the issue of Modernism around this time. At GC23, which met in Rome from September 16 to October 23, 1883, the Delegates gave unqualified support to the papal condemnation of Modernism. They instructed the then Father General, Anton Anderledy of Switzerland, “that by every means he take care to keep this plague out of the Society.”

    Clearly, however, the record shows that the attractiveness of the new attitude of unbelief, this Modernism, had made itself felt in the Society. Some Delegates to GC23 argued that the Church existed to save men, not to condemn errors. The unbelieving Modernists, they argued, were trying to do good. Would it not be better to adopt a more sympathetic and understanding attitude to these Modernists? How else could modern man of the 1880s be led “suavely and sweetly” to consider Christ and his salvation?

    Of course, those voices advocating what they called a “positive” approach were drowned out by the overwhelming majority of Delegates. The papacy had spoken. The matter was decided. But the sound of those voices would be heard louder, clearer, and far more dominantly just one hundred years later. The same argument for a sympathetic approach would be used to exclude fidelity to the will and decision of the papacy.

    A result of the propapal attitude of that time was certainly that in the formal training of Jesuits and in their published works, there was no advocacy of Modernism. But it can be said just as certainly that around this time a Modernist trend of thought entered the V intellectual tradition of the Roman Catholic Church and the Society of Jesus.

    Modernism was never, during that intervening period—the first fifty years of the twentieth century—professed overtly or openly taught. Indeed, no official Church body was more zealous in promoting papal extirpation of Modernism than the Higher Superiors of the Society up to the middle of the twentieth century. Still, a Modernist mind existed as the “upper ceiling of thought” beneath which many Catholic scholars, Jesuits included, faithfully taught the traditional doctrines of Rome. Many also joined the underground of crypto-Modernists. There was always the possibility

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    that one day circuмstances would permit that covert mind to pierce beyond that ceiling, and to experiment in the “blue yonder,” if only “the old Church” would yield to common sense and crumble in its defensive siege mentality.

    That dream was not always a passive thing. The more prominent and active of these crypto-Modernist Catholic theologians and thinkers vented their efforts to hasten the arrival of that longed-for day. A veritable brotherhood arose between them. They exchanged private copies of their speculations and theories, met at international “scientific” Catholic congresses, held private discussions, promoted each other’s pupils and books, and corresponded at length with each other. Their attitude was well summed up by one of their more brilliant members, the famed French historian Monseigneur Louis Marie Olivier Duchesne.7

    In a consoling and advisory letter to one of the brotherhood, Pierre Hébert, headmaster at the influential Paris Ecole Fénelon, Duchesne told Hébert to act cautiously, attempt no “reform” of the “medievalist” teachings of the Roman Church, because the “only outcome of such attempts would be to get oneself thrown out of the window... .“ No, Duchesne went on, Hébert “should teach what the Church teaches. But leave the explanation to make its way privately. . . .“ Then he expressed the secretly nurtured hope of the brotherhood: “It may be that despite all appearances, the old ecclesiastical edifice is going one day to tumble down.

    Should this happen, no one will blame us for having supported the old building for as long as possible.” The abiding cynicism of Duchesne’s words is clear.
    When one recalls Duchesne’s reputation and standing as a Roman Catholic scholar, and the enormous influence he wielded through his learned writings both on theologians and theology professors of his own time, and on successive generations of seminarians—the future priests and bishops of his Church—one begins to realize that the new outbreak of Modernism in the sixties of this century was no accident, no mere coincidence. It had been long and carefully seeded by hidden operatives like Duchesne.

    Even after a second and fiercer onslaught on Modernists and their Modernism by Pope Pius X in the first ten years of the twentieth century, the underground continued on. A group of young French Jesuits calling themselves La Pensée (Thought) flourished in the twenties; they met privately in their free time in order to discuss the more advanced thinkers in the Society. One effort by their Jesuit Superiors to disband them in 1930 failed. Through the years of World War II and into the late forties, “they never ceased

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    advancing in their notions of Christ and of Christianity,” as Father Teilhard de Chardin, one of their prominent members, recalled later.

    By the middle of the 1940s, strange rumors started to reach the sensitive ears of Pope Pius XII about de facto acceptance within pockets of the Church of new theories about creation; about denials of Church teaching about Original Sin, the divinity of Jesus, the primacy and infallibility of the Pope. Pius issued two encyclicals—Mediator Dei and Humani Generis—attacking errors that, in the eyes of the open, above-ground, everyday, public Church, were nowhere to be found. He condemned those who would gravely change the ceremonial of Roman Catholic Liturgy (“they would remove the Tabernacle from the altar”), and those who would let the hypotheses of scientists concerning the origin of man determine what Catholics should believe. He reasserted all the basic traditional Church doctrines.

    Not until much later did it become clear that his targets were theologians and thinkers in seminaries who in private were not only experimenting with the new notions, but were privately communicating these notions to their students. La Pensée was under papal attack.

    “The members of La Pensée will cling to their positions. . . ,“ de Chardin prophesied (with the same willfulness that would later become a hallmark of his fellow Jesuits), “and ultimately they will prevail. For they alone are truly active and capable of communicating their thought since they alone have adapted to the new method.

    Because French Jesuit seminaries were considered to be hotbeds of budding Modernism, in 1948 Jesuit Father General Janssens sent a stalwart conservative, Belgian Jesuit Edouard Dhanis, to visit the seminaries and houses of studies in that country. On completing his visitation, Dhanis recommended the dismissal of several professors and the removal of certain books from the seminary libraries. But, apparently, his efforts were to no purpose. La Pensée, in one form or another, behaved as Teilhard de Chardin had prophesied. Consequently, at an international assembly of Jesuits in 1950, Janssens delivered a sharply worded rebuke to the errant intellectuals of the Society. They were lax, he said, in their interpretation of Church doctrine, and they had shown themselves unenthusiastic for the defense of the Pope’s encyclical letters that directly addressed the relationship of science and Church teaching about the origins of the human race.
    Although five more professors were “resigned” from their posts

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    in France, for members of the brotherhood it was now clearly a waiting game; and what they awaited was the demise of the authoritarian Pope, Pius XII, and the arrival of a more tolerant regime in the Church. In the meantime, similar convulsions began in the Order of the Dominicans. Their Father General had to reprove two prominent theologians, Marie-Dominique Chenu and Yves Congar, because they were too unorthodox for doctrinal safety in their thinking and teaching.

    There is no way, no rational way, to explain the apparently overnight conversion to a Modernist stance of the Society of Jesus in its thinkers, Superiors, and principal activists in the sixties of this century unless you accept that really it was not an overnight thing, and realize that a Modernist current had entered the Society’s intellectual tradition all the way back in the last decades of the nineteenth century, and that it had lived underground among the members of the “brotherhood” in clandestine groups such as La Pensée, waiting for its day of destiny in the sunlight. In its long, covert preparation, Modernism within the Church and in the Society of Jesus had simply matured; had developed a point of view among the intelligentsia of Church and Society; and now it needed only freedom of action to demonstrate its relevance and acceptability.
     
    That the “brotherhood” labored in covert during those early years with precisely this end in view, there can be little reasonable doubt. Among the many clear signposts that point to this fact, three are so vital that they demand notice. Each one is stronger than the last in the context of classical Jesuitism.

    There was, first, the example of Jesuit George Tyrrell, who was finally condemned by Rome and dismissed from the Society because of his Modernist views. Tyrrell was overcome by the “helpfulness” of Modernists compared to the hard, do-or-die, either-for- me-or-against-me attitude of papacy and Church. Above all, the new experts in Bible studies convinced him that Roman Catholic belief was founded on a mythical, not an accurate, reading of the Bible. All in all, those views, or at least many of them, are held by Jesuits today. The correspondence between the two points of view —Jesuit Tyrrell’s and modern Jesuits’—is very often chillingly close.

    Another signpost of Modernism’s effective progress during its covert existence was the still stranger case of Jesuit Father Pierre Teilhard de Chardin. Teilhard was enthralled by what scientists were claiming to establish about prehistory—that enormously long period when our present cosmos was in geophysical gestation.

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    For him, the hypothesis of evolution proposed by Darwin was a proven fact. He proceeded to adapt Roman Catholicism to that “fact.” He elaborated a whole new theory about Catholicism and Christianity. The strangeness of his case lies in the fact that Jesuits, whose undoubted intellectual powers could have made mincemeat of Teilhard’s work, instead took him as their front- runner in philosophical and theological matters that concerned their Catholic faith vitally; and that today, above all, he holds an honored position in the Jesuit Hall of Fame, as well as an ascendancy over the Jesuit mind.

    The third, and the strangest, of these most significant signposts of Modernism’s early, covert hold on the Society was provided by what we know nowadays as Liberation Theology. Properly speaking, Liberation Theology was a Jesuit creation; and it has dominated the practical decisions of the Society’s last three General Congregations. With the emergence of Liberation Theology and its concrete applications to the visible world of poverty in Latin America and the teaching of theology all over the Church Universal, the hitherto covert stream of Modernism in the Society gushed forth in full force from its subterranean channels and flowed far and wide in the bright sunlight. Its long-awaited day of destiny had arrived.

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    George Tyrrell was born in Ireland of English parents in 1861. After converting from the Anglican Church to ________ Roman Catholicism in 1879, he entered the Society of Jesus in England one year later. Once his Jesuit formation was finished, he taught philosophy to young Jesuits-in-training at the Jesuit Stonyhurst College for two years, from 1894 to 1896. There never was any doubt about his religious zeal, and no fault was found with his practice of normal Jesuit asceticism. He was, moreover, a man who formed deep and lasting friendships, and aroused a personal devotion to himself in those he counseled and helped spiritually.

    Early in his teaching career, however, doubts arose about his judgment in intellectual matters; and in spite of his conversion, which was sincere, and his Jesuit training, which was thirteen years long, he sometimes gave the impression that he had never really grasped the underpinnings of Catholic belief. Whatever it was that was not quite well-adjusted, both he and his Superiors decided he would do better in a more actively apostolic setting. So he moved to London and lived at the Farm Street Jesuit residence as one of the Jesuit priests attached to the adjoining church.
     
    By the time he moved to London, he had already become enamored of the outlook professed by the European Modernists of his day. He was disenchanted with the official policies of his Jesuit

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    Superiors concerning Modernism, with the quiescence of his fellow Jesuits as a group, and with the policies of the papacy and the Roman hierarchy of his time. In the glory of Victorian England and the Pax Britannica, what Tyrrell took to be the siege mentality of Rome seemed so unworthy of man, so uselessly backward. The First Vatican Council, which ended in 1870, had declared that the infallibility of the Pope was a revealed dogma to be believed on faith by all Catholics. This was totally unacceptable to Modernists. Even before that, Pope Pius IX had issued two lacerating docuмents against Modernism, reiterating all the old—and for Tyrrell, cliché-ridden—dQctrines and “medievalisms” of the old Church. All of this added up to defensive authoritarianism in Tyrrell’s mind.

    During his own student days, Tyrrell had been very impressed with the results of the “higher criticism” leveled at the Bible, and with the promise of science to open up the universe. “The Modernist,” he wrote later, “demands absolute freedom for science in the widest sense of that term.” He refused to allow “theology to be tied down to any stereotyped statements, but only to the religious experiences of which certain statements are the spontaneous self-chosen expressions.” The fixed dogmas of Rome were his target.

    For some time, his real thought and outlook escaped any acrid notice or condemnation. He does seem to have had an agenda all his own, its principle being that in a series of publications he would unobtrusively introduce the substance of his ideas for reforming Catholicism and bringing it up to date—for “modernizing it.” Thus, the irony and weaving style of his first five books covered over his full meaning. An article of his on Hell written in 1899 did provoke sharp criticisms from his Jesuit censors, but no profound criticism of where he was going intellectually.

    For some time, then, his thought and outlook escaped any condemnation. Catholics of the time, including English Jesuits, were not of themselves likely to find most of what Tyrrell said and wrote objectionable—but just peculiar. He was, after all, trying to help modern-minded people to believe. Rome, so distant from England, seemed wrapped up in its own formalism.
     
    Inevitably, however, one of Tyrrell’s writings came in for heavy censorship by his Jesuit Superiors in Italy as being extremely dangerous and steering close to heresy. He was warned. Undaunted, he began to publish and circulate his writings privately, sometimes using a pseudonym. Finally, in 1906, his position came to a head. Tyrrell was asked by the Father General to retract his views

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    formally. He refused and was therefore dismissed from the Society. He retired to a private residence at Starrington.

    Because he was denied access to the Sacraments, he assumed he had been excommunicated from the Church. But, publicly at least, no formal bill of excommunication was issued against him. His former Jesuit Superiors wished to avoid the public scandal of a Jesuit in open revolt against the Pope. Moreover, although some English Jesuits and bishops were thought to be in secret sympathy with his views, Jesuits and bishops alike feared Rome’s anger; the tendency on both sides therefore was to cover the affair up as quietly as possible. What no one said out loud was that Tyrrell in refusing to retract his Modernist views had incurred automatic excommunication; he had deliberately left the Roman Catholic Church. He could not be given the Sacraments of the Church.

    One of Tyrrell’s Modernist friends, French priest Henri Brémond, wrote him pooh-poohing the excommunication as “a little Roman formality” of no eternal significance. This probably was Tyrrell’s own point of view. For him, for Brémond, and for all the Modernists, Rome no longer mattered. The Church for them was something other than the Roman Catholic hierarchic institution, something with new laws and a totally different structure.

    Tyrrell, therefore, kept on publishing and lecturing and giving spiritual counsel undauntedly right up to his early and unexpected death in 1909, at the age of forty-eight. Among his last spoken words—he was unable to talk in the last few days before he died on July 15—was a firm refusal to retract his Modernist views, which by then were widely known.

    The local bishop where Tyrrell died refused his body Christian burial in a Catholic cemetery, just as he had refused to allow the dying man to receive the Last Rites of the Church. To accept him or his mortal remains officially with formal Catholic Rites would have been a clear signal that a total revolt against Rome, its bishops, and its promulgated doctrine made no difference; that you could be a Modernist and still be regarded as a member of the Church in good standing. This was precisely the point that Tyrrell had hoped to make, and that the Modernists aimed at inculcating:

    that the day of Rome’s primacy and leadership in the Church was over.
    In spite of the bishop’s ban, however, some priests who were friends and associates of Tyrrell’s did administer the Last Rites to the dying man, and did pray over his grave. The reason for his dismissal by the Jesuits, as for the bishop’s refusal of Last Rites and of Christian burial, was, therefore, Tyr-
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    -rell’s stark refusal to retract his Modernist views. Tyrrell was indeed what he proudly called himself: a Modernist. For all of that, however, he was not uncritical, and could even be quite sardonic in poking fun at his more nebulous fellow Modernists. Having listened to the frothy Baron Friedrich von Hugel for a whole evening, he said that for von Hugel “nothing is true, but the sum total of nothings is sublime!” For all of his short life, Tyrrell remained in close touch with his Modernist colleagues in France and Italy and England; he was fully committed to the cause.

    What makes Tyrrell’s case most relevant in any assessment of a large number of Jesuits today—as well as an equally large number of theologians and bishops—is the uncanny resemblance between their views and Tyrrell’s views, between their attitude to papacy and Church hierarchy and Tyrrell’s attitude. The striking and vital difference is that today there are so many Tyrrells still held in good standing—that, unlike Tyrrell himself, they are still at their teaching posts in seminaries and universities; still retained in the Society of Jesus; still heading their episcopal sees. In other words, while Tyrrell in retrospect cuts the sorry and pathetic figure of a man (to quote a Slav proverb) who tried “to turn back the Danube River with a fork,” whatever rot made him a pariah then has today a firmer and more widespread hold in the Society of Jesus and in the Roman Catholic Church. The credit for that lies to an appreciable degree at his own door.

    All of Tyrrell’s difficulties and his ultimate lapse into grave heresy centered around that keystone element of the Roman Catholic Church: the hierarchy and teaching authority of Pope and bishop and, ultimately, of priest. As the Church is structured and functions, this hierarchy delivers dogmas and other formulations of belief to the people for their loyal adhesion. Theologians can research and speculate on the data of faith. They can inquire into new avenues of thought. But only this triad—Pope, bishop, and priest—form the teaching Church. The people, theologians included, form the believing Church.

    The adhesion of the believing Church to the doctrine delivered uniquely and authoritatively by the teaching Church is and has always been considered the crux of being a good Catholic, a member of the True Church.

    Tyrrell argued against both the structure and function of the hierarchical Church. What that Church produced, he said in essence, was merely “an engineered unity” that had nothing to do with real spiritual unity. It was nothing more than a product of medievalism. Medievalism, he said, always holds on to the same
     
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    outworn ideas and institutions. Modernism, on the other hand, “slides with the lines” of human development. Tyrrell presented himself unabashedly as antimedievalist and Modernist.

    He was painstakingly explicit, and went back to basics. “Religion,” he said, “is shown to be the spontaneous result of irrepressible needs of man’s spirit which finds satisfaction in the inward and emotional experience of God within us.” For the Spirit of God is in us all. The human spirit awakens to self-consciousness and recognizes its kinship with that Spirit which is striving to express itself in the historical process of science, morality, and religion.

    Christ did not teach dogmas, ideas, or theories, Tyrrell maintained. The central inspiring theme of his preaching was his own near-future return in glory as the Son of Man to judge the whole world. But in that, according to Tyrrell, Christ miscalculated. The wait turned out to be a long one. In the meantime, Christ served to recall man to “inwardness” and the true “vitality of religion.” Contrary to Church teaching, Jesus made no provision for an institution like the papacy, nor did he believe in or know the future.

    What did happen then? That is, if the Church was not instituted
    by Christ, how was it created and what was its true nature and
    function?

    For Tyrrell, the answer was that the same Spirit that created Christ, created the Church as a passing phase in the ongoing religious process. When the real inspiration of Christ’s preaching died out with the death of the last of the twelve Apostles who had known Christ in the flesh, there arose a number of loosely federated communities of believers—what today would be called Base Communities, communidades de base—living a strictly democratic life and endowed with authority directly from the Spirit to teach what should be believed. Gradually, the present “highly centralized ecclesiastical empire” of the Catholic Church was imposed by human wile and ambition. Authority to teach was erroneously displaced from the communities of believers to this “ecclesiastical empire” of Pope and bishops and priests.

    The argument is a lethal one for the Catholic faith and, if accepted, leads directly to a perfect expression of Modernism: The gift and the truth of faith—what is called the deposit of faith— was confided originally to the people. Fundamentally, the “Church” (that federation of communities) is democratic; and the only norm of faith is the democratic consensus of the people. That is to say: The “people,” and not the Pope, is the Vicar of Christ. Neither Pope nor bishops channel the Word of God to the people.

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    The people have the Word already. The collective religious life of the people is the ultimate criterion of truth.

    As a consequence, “what makes a Catholic is not this or that abstract theory of the Roman Church but a belief in the historical Catholic Community as the living outgrowth of the apostolic mission.” Faith in the world thus becomes more fundamental than faith in the Church; for the world—humanity—is by revised definition the fuller and all-inclusive revelation of God.

    Furthermore, as each age comes and goes, men invent formulas that reflect only one stage in the growth of the spirit in humanity. With another age, new formulas must be invented. Belief itself, therefore, changes. That is the true religious process. No intellectual truth, no dogma, has been given to us by God for our permanent assent. We have been given merely “a way of life,” the highest life of the soul. Any and all formulas or dogmas of churchmen have no more authority for individuals than the formulas of scientists about anthropology or atoms or history. They all change, because they all progress, as humanity progresses.
    What then about the Roman Catholic Church? Well, it was an experiment. And, to give it its due, at one dangerous stage for God’s revelation in the early days, it was a necessary thing in order to keep memories of Christ alive. But those days were over, Tyrrell said. Humanity had progressed. Ideally today, the Pope and the bishops should merely formulate the feelings and beliefs of the faithful. The Pope, properly speaking, should be the publicly accepted and final exponent of the people’s feelings and faith. But, all in all, the ecclesiastical experiment known as the Roman hierarchic Church had outlived its usefulness. It now represented “ a perversion and stultification of a system that once promised such great things for the good of humanity.”

    Put simply, it was time to move on. In all its charity, the Modernist hope was that the Church would cease to claim divine origin and immutable doctrines and fixed government by Pope and bishops. If only she were to offer her spiritual services to civilization, then the Church too could reenter the religious process of humanity, and thus help toward the ultimate goal.

    What goal? The “Catholic ideal of an international and universal religion inspired by the idea of democracy as the original constitution of the church.” The Roman Catholic ecclesiastically-run Church must conform to the iron laws of the religious process leading inexorably to this goal.

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    Roman Catholic Church might have to die “in order that it may live again in a greater and a grander form.” Why? Because, Modernist charity aside, there was no earthly hope that the ecclesiastical authorities would change their medievalist doctrines in the light of modernity—in the light of man’s new discoveries in religion, in anthropology, in psychology, in physical science, in medicine. The Roman Church must therefore perish like every other abortive attempt to discover a universal religion as catholic as science. For science represented the ideal universality: It was the possession of all men.

    Tyrrell, like all Modernists, believed in the possibility of a synthesis between the essential truth of his religion and the essential truths of modernity. For the Modernist, Catholicism can and must be reconciled with the results of historical criticism. Tyrrell therefore demanded guarantees for the liberty of individual Christians against encroachment by dogma-spouting ecciesiastics. He protested against the centralization of government by the papacy and the bishops, who deprived the people of their share in Church government.

    The parallels are already clear between George Tyrrell’s nineteenth-century Modernist theology and the present-day theology of such a man as, say, Fernando Cardenal, who has declared his true mission to be the political liberation of the oppressed. As a Jesuit, his priesthood meant nothing else. Neither the Pope in Rome nor the local bishops of Nicaragua bad any importance in his optic. But the parallels between Cardenal and Tyrrell do not end with a few points of contention with the Church. Tyrrell left nothing untouched or unchanged.
    Tyrrell must have been exposed to all the training, piety, and devotion of a man formed in the Society of Jesus in the late nineteenth century. Yet, clearly, from his explicit statements, he had abandoned the basic concept of Ignatian spirituality and the driving motives of Jesuit zeal: the Kingdom of Christ, the Leader, at war with the archenemy of Human Salvation; and Jesuit obedience to Christ’s Vicar on earth, the Pope. To read Tyrrell’s books is to understand that nothing of all that entered the warp and woof of his thought and belief. In fact, some time before his open rupture with the Jesuits and with Rome, he admitted that the Society of Jesus and all it stood for had become like so much “dust and ashes” in his mouth. The breakdown in his attachment to the Ignatian ideal could not have been more plain. The rest followed.
     
    It is certain that Tyrrell did not believe that Jesus was God-made-man. He did not believe either in the resurrection of the

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    body or in the existence of Hell or of Heaven. Nowhere in his eleven major books can you find that the Mass was for Tyrrell the Sacrifice of Christ on Calvary. In fact, Christ does not appear as a living Savior dying on the cross to effect the Salvation of the world. Christ’s personal love for all men and women does not appear. Instead, Jesus is diminished to pygmy size. “We cannot frame our minds to that of a first century Jєωιѕн Carpenter,” he wrote.

    Small wonder, perhaps, that there is a lack throughout Tyrrell’s writings of any sign of that devotion to the person of Jesus that was central to Jesuit spirituality, piety, mission, and zeal. And small wonder, too, that there is a similar lack of devotion to the Virgin Mary or to the saints. Small wonder—except that the absence of such devotion was both remarkable and symptomatic in a man educated and formed in the Society of Jesus in the late nineteenth century.
    If Tyrrell was merely neglectful of the Virgin and the saints, he was downright vituperative and contemptuous when it came to the Pope, the Vatican bureaucracy, and the bishops. He was not merely criticizing obvious faults; faithful Catholics do that much all the time. Rather, he denied outright the infallibility of the Pope, the teaching authority of the hierarchy, the divine inspiration of the Bible, the existence of the Devil, and a whole gamut of other defined dogmas of the Roman Church. For Tyrrell, the papacy and the bishops had about as much to do with the Church and true religion as the academic faculty of All Souls College of Oxford University had to do with pig farming in Uganda. He could not abide the hierarchic Church as an idea or as a reality.
    Tyrrell’s mind was wholly and exclusively concentrated on the here and now. His voice was the authentic echo not of the Jesuitism he ostensibly chose, but of the unbelief that was born just about the time Tyrrell was born. For him, belief in Christ entailed no faith in Christ as “a teacher and in his doctrine, but [merely] an apprehension of his personality as revealing itself within us.”

    The true Catholic, according to Tyrrell, “believes in humanity; he believes in the world. To deny that God is the primary author of all intellectual, aesthetic, moral, social, and political progress seems to the Modernist mind the most subtle and dangerous form of atheism.” In one sweep of his pen, Tyrrell had thus embraced at least implicitly several major and ancient heresies long since considered refuted and condemned by his Church.
     
    No matter, however. For Tyrrell maintained that there was no point in defending the Roman Catholic Church as the one true Church. A more glorious option was open to mankind. “To feel

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    the relation of fraternity between the various members of the religious family. . . “—Tyrrell had Christian as well as non-Christian religions in mind—”.. . is to be a Catholic”; for “Modernism acknowledges among the religions of the world a certain unity in variety.”

    At the same time, however, there was “no organic unity between the various forms of religion as though they all complemented each other.” For, in the final analysis, true religion was nothing more than “an adjustment of our conduct to a transcendent world.” Whatever that meant, all forms of religion must conform to it or perish. Indeed, all beliefs and credal formulas of all religions were seen by Tyrrell as passing adaptations, and all were destined to disappear as man progressed from higher plane to higher plane. There was no “warfare” for the “Kingdom,” but merely a “development of the Spirit of holiness” throughout humanity as it passed through its various stages. Swami Vivekananda could not have said it better.

    Many prominent theologians and bishops in today’s Church should be able to recognize in George Tyrrell a true ancestor of theirs. Enthusiasts of Liberation Theology such as Jesuit Father Gustavo Gutierrez and Juan Luis Segundo are following Tyrrell’s lead in their insistence that theology must not come “from above”

    —from the hierarchical Church—but “from below”—from “the people of God.”
    Similarly, the vaunted “new” idea of Base Communities as the authentic unit of believers, and as the only trustworthy source of belief and revelation, is nothing more than a resurrection of Tyrrell’s proposal precisely that the true “church” was formed by a gaggle of such communities.

    Indeed, just about every major Church figure who throws obloquy on the teaching authority of Rome today need seek no further than Tyrrell for his exemplar. Teaching with an impunity denied to Tyrrell, such honored men as Karl Rahner, Hans Küng, Charles Curran, Leonardo Boff, Jon Sobrino, Edward Schillebeeckx—to name but a handful of self-established Church authorities and luminaries—claim, as Tyrrell did, that the spirit of God reveals itself in individuals and in local groups, and that those individuals and groups therefore have their own authority. They need pay no heed to Rome’s voice.

    Tyrrell set the Modernist model not only for teaching authority and authenticity of belief, but for religious mission. Tyrrell’s total abandonment of the Ignatian ideal of warfare carried out for the sake of Christ’s Kingdom will be recognized by Fernando Cardenal

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    and his compatriots, and by every other Jesuit who has substituted a sociopolitical ideal—usually the Socialist/Marxist ideal—for that ideal of Ignatian spirituality.

    Tyrrell’s influence does not stop with structure and mission in the Church. Necessarily, the basic nature and function of priesthood in the Catholic Church comes into question.
     
    In Catholic doctrine, priesthood is a Sacrament given through the Church to an individual. To receive the Sacrament of priestly Ordination, to become a priest, means that personally and individually the recipient’s soul is forever qualified and added to. Another dimension is added to it by God’s grace. It is a dimension of power exactly corresponding in its own limited, created fashion to the dimension of power that belonged to the human soul of Jesus as the savior God-man and as high priest of salvation.

    That forever irremovable dimension of power has two principal areas of activity: The priest can offer the Sacrifice of the Mass as a reenactment of Jesus’s sacrifice of his human life on Calvary, and the priest can forgive other men for their sins. Besides these two areas, there are others also—preaching the good news of the Gospel, spiritually advising others, dominating evil spirits, theological perception, moral judgment, and so forth.

    A priest is fundamentally, essentially, and unchangeably a sacrificing, absolving, preaching member of the Church whose authority and whose priesthood come to him from God through the summons of the Apostles—the bishops of the Church of whom the Pope is head and supreme guarantor of every priest’s authenticity.
    In the Modernist doctrine as propounded by Tyrrell, all that Catholic doctrine is thrown out the window of human intervention. Neither the divinity of Jesus nor the sacrifice of his physical self for men’s Salvation has any place in the ultimate stage of religious truth of Modernism.

    What does take place in priesthood according to the Modernist mind—Tyrrell’s and all the other Tyrrells who have flourished since and are flourishing in our day—is expressed as accurately as could be in a namesake of George Tyrrell, George Wilson, S.J., an American whose writings have had a wide impact, and reflect the mentality of an entire generation of Jesuit theologians.

    For Jesuit Wilson, “the ‘Church’ is not, in the first instance, a world institution but rather a local acculturated sacramental reality. ‘Local Church’ is not in the first instance an administrative unit of a larger organization [in which the focus might therefore quite easily rest on the bishop], but rather [is] the life of the whole

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    gathered people, with all its unique ethos, lived out initially in significant communities where people experience the reality of reconciliation/salvation; the family and the parish, and secondarily that local church we call diocese.”
    Though he is far from poetic, it is clear that in the tangle of sociology and anthropology that went into the making of Wilson’s “new theology” of the “Church,” teaching authority rests with the people, not in the Roman Catholic Church’s bishops and Pope. That much is unadulterated Tyrrell.

    Where Wilson makes his contribution, standing on Tyrrell’s shoulders so to speak, is in putting into so many words the meaning of all that for the priesthood.
    “Priesthood,” Wilson explains, “is not in the first instance a personal gift bestowed on an isolated individual but a corporate gift given to a body of persons for the upbuilding of these local churches.”

    Immediately, Wilson has solved a Modernist dilemma. If you do away with the priesthood, you haven’t a prayer of holding together anything even resembling an organized church such as the Catholic Church has always claimed to be. But if you’ve already done away with Jesus as God, and therefore have done away with his sacramental gifts bestowed upon individual priests, thus allowing them to stand in his place—to offer his forgiveness and his Sacrifice—well, the embarrassing problem obviously is what to do about the priesthood.

    The answer is as simple as it is devastating. Priesthood is no longer given to an individual; it is given to, or perhaps resides in, a community. And its purpose is no longer sacrifice and absolution; it is the social “upbuilding” of the community. But then, of course, you have a problem about sins. What happens to them? Are they “evolved” away, out of existence? Or do you state there is only “social sin,” but no really “personal” sins? Neither Wilson nor Tyrrell have any solution.
     
    There is yet another striking note of similarity between the case of George Tyrrell and his descendants, the Modernists of our time: the note of fundamental and dangerous contradiction in the way they cling to the skirts of the Church they scorn. To the end of his days, Tyrrell grieved because he was not allowed to stay on in the Roman Catholic Church. He retained a fierce attachment to that Church—understood of course in his sense—and a fierce desire to aid in its transition from medievalism to Modernism.
     
    Side by side with his deep Modernist persuasion, surely aware but apparently heedless of the contradiction, he insisted that the

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    Catholic Church of Rome “has on the whole preserved the message of Christ more faithfully than any other. . . and in it you can find the germ of that future universal religion for which we all look.” So much so that “if Rome dies, the other churches may order their coffins.”

    For Tyrrell, then, every other church was “the work of the devil, a snare, an imposture, a spurious evolution.” And “whatever Jesus was, he wasn’t a liberal Protestant.”

    In line with such sentiments, Tyrrell’s most vociferous condemnation of Martin Luther and John Calvin and the other Protestant reformers of the sixteenth century was that they should not have revolted, but should have stayed in the Church and worked for its change from within, as he yearned to do.

    How Tyrrell would have envied such twentieth-century Modernists as Hans Kung, and all those many others who wish to be known as Roman Catholics, but who use that position to eviscerate and transform Catholicism. Indeed, today Tyrrell’s case history is probably most notable for the fact that he was expelled at all from the Society of Jesus and excluded from the Sacraments of the Church. For, in our time, the Modernist spirit of George Tyrrell reigns supreme. Up and down the national hierarchies, and at large among Jesuits, Carmelites, Dominicans, Maryknoll priests and nuns, as well as among some two dozen other Religious Orders and Congregations, the Modernist point of view is openly declared and put into daily practice. Superiors—both Religious and episcopal—make no attempt to get rid of the Modernists in their midst. No one of the last three Popes has been strong enough or threatening enough to force the hands of those tolerant Superiors; and one is forced to suspect that those Superiors themselves share the Modernist mind and outlook.

    Without a doubt, were Tyrrell alive today, he would not be beyond the pale, but would be flourishing in a professor’s chair at a Jesuit university or seminary.
    But such was not his fate. Once he went public, he became a threat to friend as well as foe. His Jesuit Superiors were afraid of what the strong Pope of that time, Pius X, would do if the Society of Jesus sanctioned Tyrrell as he was going. He died, therefore, in his regrets.

    If you visit his grave today, you will see the headstone just as he himself sketched it before he died: the Host and Chalice at the top; beneath, his dates and the words “A priest of the Catholic Church”—the position he desired so much.
    Host and chalice; priesthood and Church. No matter, he seemed

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    to say, that these can no longer be accepted as the practical instruments Jesus provided to see his servants into the place of God’s eternal glory. He could still cherish them as dearly beloved cultural artifacts identifying George Tyrrell, S.J., as belonging to one phase in the long development of “the spirit in man.”

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    Could you please give your arguments against the reasoning of St Thomas:


    Summa Theologica - St Thomas Aquinas

    Whether this is true: "Man is God"?

    Objection 1: It would seem that this is false: "Man is God." For God is an incommunicable name; hence (Wis. 13:10; 14:21) idolaters are rebuked for giving the name of God, which is incommunicable, to wood and stones. Hence with equal reason does it seem unbecoming that this word "God" should be predicated of man.

    Objection 2: Further, whatever is predicated of the predicate may be predicated of the subject. But this is true: "God is the Father," or "God is the Trinity." Therefore, if it is true that "Man is God," it seems that this also is true: "Man is the Father," or "Man is the Trinity." But these are false. Therefore the first is false.

    Objection 3: Further, it is written (Ps. 80:10): "There shall be no new God in thee." But man is something new; for Christ was not always man. Therefore this is false: "Man is God."

    On the contrary, It is written (Rom. 9:5): "Of whom is Christ according to the flesh, Who is over all things, God blessed for ever." Now Christ, according to the flesh, is man. Therefore this is true: "Man is God."

    I answer that, Granted the reality of both natures, i.e. Divine and human, and of the union in person and hypostasis, this is true and proper: "Man is God," even as this: "God is man." For this word "man" may stand for any hypostasis of human nature; and thus it may stand for the Person of the Son of God, Whom we say is a hypostasis of human nature. Now it is manifest that the word "God" is truly and properly predicated of the Person of the Son of God, as was said in the FP, Q[39], A[4]. Hence it remains that this is true and proper: "Man is God."

    Reply to Objection 1: Idolaters attributed the name of the Deity to stones and wood, considered in their own nature, because they thought there was something divine in them. But we do not attribute the name of the Deity to the man in His human nature, but in the eternal suppositum, which by union is a suppositum of human nature, as stated above.

    Reply to Objection 2: This word "Father" is predicated of this word "God," inasmuch as this word "God" stands for the Person of the Father. And in this way it is not predicated of the Person of the Son, because the Person of the Son is not the Person of the Father. And, consequently, it is not necessary that this word "Father" be predicated of this word "Man," of which the Word "God" is predicated, inasmuch as "Man" stands for the Person of the Son.

    Reply to Objection 3: Although the human nature in Christ is something new, yet the suppositum of the human nature is not new, but eternal. And because this word "God" is predicated of man not on account of the human nature, but by reason of the suppositum, it does not follow that we assert a new God. But this would follow, if we held that "Man" stands for a created suppositum: even as must be said by those who assert that there are two supposita in Christ [*Cf. Q[2], AA[3],6].



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  • Our Lord Jesus Christ said:

    Matthew 24:

    15 When therefore you shall see the abomination of desolation, which was spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place: he that readeth let him understand.

    16 Then they that are in Judea, let them flee to the mountains:
    17 And he that is on the housetop, let him not come down to take any thing out of his house:
    18 And he that is in the field, let him not go back to take his coat.
    19 And woe to them that are with child, and that give suck in those days.
    20 But pray that your flight be not in the winter, or on the sabbath.

    21 For there shall be then great tribulation, such as hath not been from the beginning of the world until now, neither shall be.

    The Justice of God: Fr. Malachi Martin Right about Satan in Newvatican

    http://1law-order-and-justice.blogspot.com/2012/10/fr-malachi-martin-right-about-satan-in.html

    The Justice of God: Traditional Joe: - Was Malachi Martin Right about Satan in Newvatican?

    Father Malachi Martin stated in his last interview on the Art Bell Show (1998):

    http://1law-order-and-justice.blogspot.com/2012/10/traditional-joe-was-malachi-martin.html

    In a radio interview in New York, Fr. Martin was asked whether he feared for his life since writing Windswept House. Fr. Martin said that he was, but that he was too old to change his ways. Fr. Martin soon met his death under very suspicious circuмstances. He was found unconscious and bleeding in his home with hard wood fragments imbedded in his skull. In a coma, he regained consciousness just briefly enough to declare that it was a murder attempt, but that he did not get a chance to see who did it. Fr. Martin fell back into coma and died on July 27, 1999. Some who followed Fr. Martin's career believe that he was murdered because he knew too much about the Satanic cabal that infiltrated and took over Newvatican.

    Fr. Malachi Martin With Art Bell. Vatican Murders etc. May 4th 1998 (8) (NWO SERIES/ The Vatican)



    God loves His people. He hates sin and will chastise those whom He loves.

     



    No private revelation is canonically binding. Test the spirits!

    The Holy Spirit was promised to the Church in perpetuity and will never be retracted and that includes His gifts of prophecy. Whatever in private revelation agrees with Canonical Scripture and secondarily, the Full Consensus of the Church Fathers beginning with the Apostolic Fathers - Ignatius of Antioch and Polycarp of Smyrna and Clement of Rome and Papias of Hierapolis, and forward to include the first millenium Fathers up to and including Pope Gregory the Great in the West and John of Damascus in the East, should be given credence.

    The third Secret of Fatima, obviously speaks of the destruction of Rome and the Papacy due to their Apostasy to Satan, beginning with Antipope John XXIII. This agrees in with St. Irenaeus' warnings about Rome and to the bishops of Rome in his time, 180 A.D. and later. It is from these admonitions of St. Irenaeus (disciple of Polycarp who was the disciple of the last Apostle and Evangelist John) to Bishop Eleutherus of Rome and then later of St. Irenaeus to Victor Bishop of Rome, that the beginning of Roman "primacy" has its origin - it is from the beginning  not based on Command of Christ, but the Church gathering around Rome in fraternal correction and counciliar agreement to have the Bishop of Rome be a truthful witness to the earthly empire of Rome. Nothing more. The Vatican today has thrown away the faith and all counsel of Christians. St. Irenaeus and St. Gregory the Great and St. John of Damascus and the full consensus of the Church Fathers and the Apostles would all emphatically agree

    Note: V2 = the Vatican II evil false robber council.

    Prior to V2 the Irremoveability of Pastors (Parish Priests) by the Bishops, under the 1917 Code of Canon Law, guaranteed the Parishes were protected from interference with Parish Priests by the likes of today’s Apostates masquerading as Bishops. I remember the simple Parish Priests, they taught the Gospel and nothing else then, as did the Sisters then.

    This is why, faithful to Our Lord Jesus Christ Priests like Father Denis Fahey and Father Leonard Feeney could tell the truth about the Jews and Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ at that time.

    The Antichrist Voltaire X 10,000 could not equal the malice of Cardinals Richelieu and Mazarin, the two worst monsters ever opposed to Our Lord Jesus Christ and His Church, which is His body and nothing else – not anything ever defined by the false Roman or any other sophist heresiarchal false authority.

    Without Richelieu and Mazarin, Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ would have been stopped before Karl Marx ever wrote a word.

    The Freemason takeover of the whole Church happened by plan and on their schedule at V2. Both the encrustations of the Marian Apparitions (scroll to second article by Older Posts link down at the right hand bottom side of the article) and Freemason-Rosecrucian Antipope John XXIII ARE UTTERLY PART OF THAT.

    Fr. Malachi Martin is absolutely correct about demonic "perfect possession." When someone, such as all five of the recent/current Antipopes: John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II and Benediktos XVI cross over a certain line - which all five of them have done, which is knowingly blaspheming the source of all grace, the Holy Spirit given by the Sacrifice of Christ on His Cross – – by claiming the Holy Spirit of God and the energy of Satan, energian planes, are one and the same, THEY WILL NEVER HAVE ANY REPENTANCE GIVEN THEM BY GOD - BEGINNING IMMEDIATELY EVEN IN THIS LIFE AND FOREVERMORE THEY ARE ALREADY DAMNED FOREVER. THE FAITHFUL MAY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEM UPON ABSOLUTE PAIN OF ETERNAL DAMNATION.

    ENERGY OF SATAN = Thess 2:11 Therefore God shall send them the operation of error, to believe lying:

    Ver. 11. God shall send. . .That is God shall suffer them to be deceived by lying wonders, and false miracles, in punishment of their not entertaining the love of truth.

    Ver. 11. 'God sends.' God will allow their willful rejection of truth to have its natural results of spiritual blindness, impenitence and damnation. A misleading influence, or, “a delusion.”

    The operation of error - the Greek reads: "energian planes" or literally the energy of delusion, which is exactly and actually the fallen spirits of the devils and demons conjured by pagan religion, especially by idolatry. NOW, currently, the Assisi delusion of the Apostates, Ratzinger and Wojtyla and many others present with them, is a very real and prime example. To give oneself over to this is to invite utter and complete damnation of oneself by God.

    Gospel of St. Matthew 12:31 Therefore I say to you: Every sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven men, but the blasphemy of the Spirit shall not be forgiven. 32 And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but he that shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this age, nor in the age to come.

    Gospel of St. Mark 3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, shall never have forgiveness, but shall be guilty of an everlasting sin 30 Because they said: He hath an unclean spirit.

    Gospel of St. Luke 12:10 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but to him that shall blaspheme against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven.

    Gospel of St. John 8:
    41 You do the works of your father. They said therefore to him: We are not born of fornication: we have one Father, even God.  42 Jesus therefore said to them: If God were your Father, you would indeed love me. For from God I proceeded, and came; for I came not of myself, but he sent me:  43 Why do you not know my speech? Because you cannot hear my word.  44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and he stood not in the truth; because truth is not in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father thereof.  45 But if I say the truth, you believe me not.


    Father Martin was also correct about the Man of Sin, the Antichrist, he will present himself when the world is faced with insoluable problems and present real solutions and will ACCEPT THE WORSHIP OF MEN OF HIMSELF. THAT IS THE UNFORGIVABLE SIN AND IT IS TAKING THE MARK OF THE BEAST FOR ALL WHO WORSHIP HIM. THEY WILL NEVER BE FORGIVEN AND BOTH THE ANTICHRIST AND ALL WHO WORSHIP HIM WILL GO TO HELL FOREVER.

    Freemason-Rosecrucian Antipope John XXIII

    http://1law-order-and-justice.blogspot.com/search/label/Rosecrucian

    God and His Messiah Jesus Christ our Lord - our right and duty to witness to Him

    http://1amendmentcont.blogspot.com/

    Carlos Vazquez Rangel, Grand Commander of the Supreme Council of the Masons of Mexico, has publicly supported long-held suspicions that Roncalli and Montini were not just "fellow travellers" of the Freemasons. In an interview with the political weekly Processo in 1993 Vazquez stated that "within the eight city blocks that make up the Vatican State no fewer than four Scottish Rite lodges are functioning. Many of the highest Vatican officials are Masons and in certain countries where the Church is not allowed to operate, it is the lodges that carry on Vatican affairs, clandestinely."
    Vazquez claimed that the effort to mitigate the "church's" penalties for Masonic membership, championed by the late Archbishop Mendez Arceo of Cuenavaca, also a Freemason, eventually came to fruition because of the early cooperation of John XXIII and Paul VI who had both became Masons years before their respective usurpations of the Chair of Peter: "On the same day, in Paris the profane Angelo Roncalli and the profane Giovanni Montini were initiated into the august mysteries of the Brotherhood. Thus it was that much that was achieved at the Council was based on Masonic principles."

    The Justice of God: ROSICRUCIAN UTOPIA

    http://1law-order-and-justice.blogspot.com/2012/09/rosicrucian-utopia.html

    The Justice of God: "Bishop" Williamson, Rosicrucian Freemason decoy and Buddhists, Muslims, Yoruba join antipope for peace

    http://1law-order-and-justice.blogspot.com/2011/10/bishop-williamson-rosicrucian-freemason.html

    The Justice of God: The Great Apostasy of Babylon - COME OUT FROM AMONGST HER MY PEOPLE!

    http://1law-order-and-justice.blogspot.com/2012/05/great-apostasy-of-babylon-come-out-from.html

    The Illuminati: November 2011

    http://themasonicilluminati.blogspot.com/2011_11_01_archive.html

    The Coming of the Antichrist: November 2011
    http://harlotbabylon.blogspot.com/2011_11_01_archive.html

    Traditional Catholic Prayers: Prayer against the Devil Mother Goddess and all of Satan's minions

    http://traditional-catholic-prayers.blogspot.com/2011/06/prayer-against-devil-mother-goddess-and.html


    The Illuminati Black International has the Apostate Vatican II Catholic false Church – a potential 1 billion spies and neighborhood gulag agents to draw on (much like under Communism). There are two persecutions at the last, in one, that St. Augustine warns of when the time of the Antichrist occurs. One is the violence of persecutors and the other is false brethren, particularly insidious.

    Bishops before V2 – you never heard of them (except maybe before he was an Antipope, Antipope John XXIII’s go-fer Bishop Sheen on Television 1951-1957 – but so what?! Bishop Sheen had no canonical authority over the parishes throughout the world – he just talked, and never really said anything either, quite shallow public relations with the coming “ecuмenical” [one world nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr] agenda of V2 always motivating his speech.)

    Eric Jon Phelps and Alberto Rivera and those like them are very good as far as they go, but Malachi Martin’s genius lay in his docuмentation of how not just the Jesuits or Opus Dei, but all the orders, Franciscans, Dominicans etc, - all of them and every Parish priest was subverted and co-opted for the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr by the Apostate Robber Council V2. When word was out that Fr. Martin was about to complete and publish his book on the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr (which would have been after Windswept House), that is when the Black International murdered him. Today there are fake so-called traditionalist like the fake Maurice Pinay and the equally false Michael Hoffman (who asininely claims supreme mastery of all Hebrew studies and is a self confessed third order Jesuit or trained therein under their dominion, supposedly) who gleefully rant about “another nail in Malachi Martin’s coffin” to defame Fr. Matin’s stance for the truth, which is an obvious oblique threat to anyone who would speak positively about Fr. Martin’s heroic stance for the truth. These two, Hoffman/Pinay, are promoting the Freemasonic Rosecrucian decoy “Bishop” Williamson in order to trap people into the Roman Babylon damned harlotry. At this point in time there is NO truth left in the SSPX whatsoever – they, especially decoy Williamson, are part of the Apostasy of Rome and equally damned with Rome.

    Today the so-called Traditionalists have been reduced to wrangling over Pharisaic legalist nonsense and never address the real issue of the Faith, once for all delivered by Our Lord Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit to the Apostles and by them to the Church – with no alteration ever allowed.

    MI6 (CIA is just a department of MI6) is far more influential and powerful than all the Jews and the various branches of the Mossad and their Sayanim put together.

    The Roman Illuminati machine, now laughably called the ‘Church Universal,’ is far - far larger and able to penetrate every city and town and village on earth, which is their plan and why the Illuminati are at your heels, no matter where you are.

    Talk all you want about right to life and Palestinian rights and how evil Judaism is, all perfectly correct of course, but nothing even remotely comparable will happen to you like what happens when you reproach and expose the Satanic Pedophiliac Apostate Roman Black International. They can reach out and touch someone any where and they totally hate God and His Christ and those who follow Our Lord Jesus Christ and worship the True God. Come out from among them and have nothing to do with them upon pain of eternal damnation.

    The Justice of God: The Black Mass is the Abomination of Desolation

    http://1law-order-and-justice.blogspot.com/2012/10/the-black-mass-is-abomination-of.html