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Offline Last Tradhican

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Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
« Reply #90 on: March 17, 2018, 05:05:31 PM »
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    • Here are Sts. Peter, James, and John "topless". I could post 100's of such paintings. If it was a sin for men to not wear a shirt, the Church would not have allowed any of these paintings which have adorn Churches all over the world for thousands of years. I could post hundreds of Our Lord Jesus Christ "topless". 

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #91 on: March 17, 2018, 05:14:55 PM »
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    I'm glad this OP didn't ironically complain about male immodesty by showing us an immodest "hunk"
    You should ditch that word from your vocabulary, it is totally ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ. It is the brainwashed women who have been conned into spreading its usage. Just like they have been brainwashed to say OMG like 100 times in a short conversation. 
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #92 on: March 17, 2018, 06:23:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 05:05:31 PM
    Here are Sts. Peter, James, and John "topless". I could post 100's of such paintings. If it was a sin for men to not wear a shirt, the Church would not have allowed any of these paintings which have adorn Churches all over the world for thousands of years. I could post hundreds of Our Lord Jesus Christ "topless".
    They are working.
    They are all men.
    In polite company or in public where women could see, men should wear shirts.
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    Offline SusanneT

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #93 on: March 17, 2018, 06:32:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cantarella on March 14, 2018, 11:57:26 AM
    I think that contrary to post -sɛҳuąƖ revolution propaganda (and wishful thinking of immature men) the temptation you describe above (of undressing the men in our minds and fantasize) is quite foreign to the female nature, really.

    I think the idea of women beign the same as men as of their sɛҳuąƖ appetites, has been heavily fueled by the pornographic industry.
    I agree completely I think it is a myth put about by feminists who believe it represents some misguided ideas of equality. 
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #94 on: March 17, 2018, 07:51:52 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 05:05:31 PM
    Here are Sts. Peter, James, and John "topless". I could post 100's of such paintings. If it was a sin for men to not wear a shirt, the Church would not have allowed any of these paintings which have adorn Churches all over the world for thousands of years. I could post hundreds of Our Lord Jesus Christ "topless".



    :facepalm: And the Church has allowed nudes in church as well (ever hear of the Sistine Chapel?).  Just because the Church allowed that art, it's now not a sin for men to walk around with their genitals exposed?  Use some logic, man.

    Just because something is depicted in art doesn't mean that it's necessarily permitted in real life. 
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #95 on: March 17, 2018, 08:36:32 PM »
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    • I have some really worldly female relatives who could make a case for women leering after shirtless men. Not sure if they really feel like that, or they just think they are supposed to act like that because that's what they've been taught in our wicked culture. They think it's funny to send me birthday cards of men in tiny bathing suits even though I ask them not to. The pics don't do anything for me except embarrass me. I don't find them titillating in the least., they're just stupid.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #96 on: March 17, 2018, 10:17:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Last Tradhican on March 17, 2018, 02:47:20 PM
    Cantarella is a woman and she confirmed my observations and added to my details ( indeed,too many details and examples).

    There is not one woman (or man) here who has elaborated how a woman's reaction to a young athletic man without a shirt actually turns into sin, what actually transpires in detail.

    I could give you an example, but I won't because people will say I'm bragging; and I don't know how to explain it while keeping it Catholic-friendly and not sounding like some short erotic story. It would probably be an occasion of sin for chicks.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #97 on: March 17, 2018, 10:28:55 PM »
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    • Also, the reason women aren't turned on by shirtless men in religious paintings or statues is because it's a religious context. Even an atheist woman, who shouldn't care about committing sacrilege because she doesn't believe in it, won't be turned on by the shirtless men because there is sill an innate sense of what is appropriate, and what is inappropriate, impressed upon their hearts by God, despite their faithlessness. That's why they have no natural inclination to be aroused by a religious painting's image of a shirtless man.

    And the reason the men are shirtless, and women are always fully clothed, is because it's natural for men to be shirtless as they are, naturally, the laborers. It gives them more free range of motion. There are no shirts, robes or cloaks to get caught on anything while working, and it helped keep them cooler during their tasks and hunts.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #98 on: March 17, 2018, 10:42:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Croix de Fer on March 17, 2018, 10:28:55 PM
    Also, the reason women aren't turned on by shirtless men in religious paintings or statues is because it's a religious context. Even an atheist woman, who shouldn't care about committing sacrilege because she doesn't believe in it, won't be turned on by the shirtless men because there is sill an innate sense of what is appropriate, and what is inappropriate, impressed upon their hearts by God, despite their faithlessness. That's why they have no natural inclination to be aroused by a religious painting's image of a shirtless man.

    And the reason the men are shirtless, and women are always fully clothed, is because it's natural for men to be shirtless as they are, naturally, the laborers. It gives them more free range of motion. There are no shirts, robes or cloaks to get caught on anything while working, and it helped keep them cooler during their tasks and hunts.
    Time ran out to add to the above.

    If female Church figures were depicted as topless or naked in paintings and statues (but there is no reason to do it because it wasn't natural for them be naked; they weren't laborers), I don't think any man would be turned on by it for the same reasons mentioned above.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #99 on: March 18, 2018, 12:52:34 PM »
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    • Quote from: SusanneT on March 17, 2018, 06:32:21 PM
    I agree completely I think it is a myth put about by feminists who believe it represents some misguided ideas of equality.

    And the sad thing is that misguided girls fall for these lies so easily! In an attempt to just be "like the guys" they deliberately imitate and exaggerate the "guy's talk" about such matters. It makes them feel "empowered" to be harsh and insensitive, which they perceive men to be like; but it is a lie which actually goes against their nature. It is also a physiological mechanism of defense against the men and their own feelings. 

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    I heard lustful talk among the chicks there that truly rivals male "locker room talk".

    Surely, from damaged girls, which sadly account for the vast majority of them out there nowadays. But these girls are broken and damaged. They have been brainwashed. There is a reason why we girls tend to be "copy cats". We tend to imitate other women around us. When all we see as girls is what the media portrays today the role model to be, (this is, basically the "empowered, masculinized slut") well...it is hard for girls to disconnect from that pattern, it takes a special Grace.

    Role models for girls are crucial because of our malleable, water-like nature. Patriarchal societies are well aware of this nature, and heavy reinforcement (by fathers, husbands, and older women) of honorable conduct for women was an absolute necessity.

    We have an amazing potential to be and do good; but also great evil.

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #100 on: March 18, 2018, 01:01:21 PM »
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    • I want to add here that the pornographic industry has profited greatly from the naiveté of sɛҳuąƖly immature of men of hoping to be physically "wanted" by the women just as much as they want them. Reality is, when it comes to sɛҳuąƖ drives, there is a sea separating male nature from female nature.

    Our great grandfathers knew better. Entire patriarchal civilizations were built upon these truths regarding such differences. 
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #101 on: March 18, 2018, 03:09:53 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cantarella on March 18, 2018, 01:01:21 PM
    I want to add here that the pornographic industry has profited greatly from the naiveté of sɛҳuąƖly immature of men of hoping to be physically "wanted" by the women just as much as they want them. Reality is, when it comes to sɛҳuąƖ drives, there is a sea separating male nature from female nature.

    I don't know.  Croix here claims that women want him physically just as much as a man might want a woman that way.  I think that, more and more, a lot of young women have been culturally conditioned to think that way.  Priests and various secular studies indicate that there are nearly as many women addicted to pornography now as men.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #102 on: March 18, 2018, 03:14:13 PM »
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    • This thread needs to die. The reason is because the more a person tries to understand a monster, he is at risk of becoming a monster himself.

    Cantarella, I accidentally misspelled your name in an earlier comment. Sorry.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #103 on: March 18, 2018, 09:24:25 PM »
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    • Speaking only for myself, there's nothing tempting about an improperly clad man, no matter how perfect his physique.  I'm disgusted by men who have no manners, no sense of decorum to go about in public or appear in mixed company without a shirt, with tight-fitting pants or shorts.  Hardly a man knows enough to remove his cap upon entering a building.  I can only wonder about women who find such men attractive.  
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #104 on: March 18, 2018, 09:41:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on March 18, 2018, 09:24:25 PM
    Speaking only for myself, there's nothing tempting about an improperly clad man, no matter how perfect his physique.  I'm disgusted by men who have no manners, no sense of decorum to go about in public or appear in mixed company without a shirt, with tight-fitting pants or shorts.  Hardly a man knows enough to remove his cap upon entering a building.  I can only wonder about women who find such men attractive.  

    I definitely agree. I rather see a handsome man wearing a proper shirt and tie (or even working attire), than the same handsome man without a shirt on! If this is true for the good looking men, then you can imagine the disgust the ugly ones inspire. Summer is approaching and it is revolting seeing so many men without the shirts on and shorts falling down. 
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