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Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2018, 04:14:37 PM »
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  • Women are wired differently. They have their own immoral "porn" equivalent -- but it takes a vastly different form.
    It's called a Romance Novel.

    Romance novels "set up" the characters. Women (unless they've been corrupted, over-sɛҳuąƖized, their nature tampered with, or they have above-average sex drive) aren't interested in watching or reading about sex "without any context".

    They need a backstory. Hence the difference between romance novels and male porn.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #16 on: March 14, 2018, 04:16:42 PM »
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  • I think the temptation for women in this regard is more a vanity issue than physical unchastity. Sure, we can see a good looking man and think to ourselves: "wow, what a handsome man". But from that point of simple awareness, to actually "undressing the man in our minds and imagining"... I just don't think it naturally happens. Or maybe it is just me.

    What I do remember happening back in my early youth is me instantaneously trying to appear more pretty or even flirtatous, this is, actively seeking attention, when the mentioned good looking young man appeared in the room. It is really an ego issue. If left unchecked, this could lead to sins of vanity or even immodesty.
    Cantarela,

    That makes more sense to me and jibes with my experience in life. Thank you.

    I could always tell the day a girl loses her virginity by the great change in them. Where they were before that day flirting with all the boys, high on the pedestal. The next day, they look crestfallen, like they have been disemboweled of the joys of their youth. If women were like men in their temptations, then those girls would have been ecstatic the next day after their "conquest". Not a one ever was.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #17 on: March 14, 2018, 09:09:28 PM »
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  • I think that is more because of decades of feminist indocrination of women wanting to be just like the men (combined with a foolish attempt to please the men themselves which is a contradiction), rather than a natural or biological inclination of women.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #18 on: March 15, 2018, 05:49:37 AM »
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  • A lady here on CI, who I respect, said that"male immodesty tempts  feminine women".

    In the context of the subject we were discussing: female immodesty in dress, I would answer that women are not tempted to sin in the same way as men are. I would say that male immodesty may attract some women, but I would not say it tempts them to sin.

    I'll be blunt, when a man of the world sees a young good looking well figured girl dressed provocatively, they immediately mentally strip her of her clothes  and fantisize or begin to plan on how to have relations with them. That is a mortal sin.

    "Whosoever shall look on a woman to lust after her, hath already committed adultery with her in his heart" (Matthew 5:28).

    For a Catholic man, when they sees such a girl, a temptation, they must turn away and try to get the image out of their minds in order not to sin.

    I do not think women have the same problem. I think that women might be attracted by a "a young good looking well figured man dressed provocatively", but they are not tempted to sin as a man is.
    I think we should be circuмspect in how we dress. 

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #19 on: March 15, 2018, 06:19:45 AM »
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  • I could always tell the day a girl loses her virginity by the great change in them. Where they were before that day flirting with all the boys, high on the pedestal. The next day, they look crestfallen, like they have been disemboweled of the joys of their youth. If women were like men in their temptations, then those girls would have been ecstatic the next day after their "conquest". Not a one ever was.

    That's not because those girls have an intrinsic default to virtue which makes them realize their error, rather, it's because they realize the guys with whom they slept were either beta males and/or scuм bags, which left the girls feeling low about themselves, hence, as a defense mechanism, they convince themselves that they weren't guilty of using the guys, and only they were the ones being used.  

    If the guys had been alpha or sigma males, those girls would have been satisfied with their own "conquest".

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #20 on: March 15, 2018, 08:08:28 AM »
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  • Most women are, more or less, sɛҳuąƖ deviants. It's due to their fallen "nature", hence their Jezebel and Asmodeus spirit.
    Firstly, your entire post is much too graphic for me and should be removed.
    Secondly, I wonder how you are able to communicate with women at ALL in real life, considering your condescending attitude towards them.
    I feel for you.

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #21 on: March 15, 2018, 08:15:32 AM »
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  • Firstly, your entire post is much too graphic for me and should be removed.
    Secondly, I wonder how you are able to communicate with women at ALL in real life, considering your condescending attitude towards them.
    I feel for you.

    He has a condescending attitude towards everyone, not just women.  He kept calling me "tubby" when I objected to his assertion that eating lots of refined sugar is good for people ... even though he's never seen me.

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #22 on: March 15, 2018, 08:17:31 AM »
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  • That's not because those girls have an intrinsic default to virtue which makes them realize their error, rather, it's because they realize the guys with whom they slept were either beta males and/or scuм bags, which left the girls feeling low about themselves, hence, as a defense mechanism, they convince themselves that they weren't guilty of using the guys, and only they were the ones being used.  

    If the guys had been alpha or sigma males, those girls would have been satisfied with their own "conquest".

    You're deeply polluted with the spirit of the world.  You would undoubtedly consider most of the male saints, and Our Lord Himself, to be "beta" males on account of their meekness.


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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #23 on: March 15, 2018, 08:20:36 AM »
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  • He has a condescending attitude towards everyone, not just women.  He kept calling me "tubby" when I objected to his assertion that eating lots of refined sugar is good for people ... even though he's never seen me.
    How do people survive, spiritually, when they are so vicious to God's creation?

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #24 on: March 15, 2018, 09:29:46 AM »
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  • That's not because those girls have an intrinsic default to virtue which makes them realize their error, rather, it's because they realize the guys with whom they slept were either beta males and/or scuм bags, which left the girls feeling low about themselves, hence, as a defense mechanism, they convince themselves that they weren't guilty of using the guys, and only they were the ones being used.  

    If the guys had been alpha or sigma males, those girls would have been satisfied with their own "conquest".
    Alpha, Beta, Sigma males? I was talking about human beings, not dogs. 

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #25 on: March 15, 2018, 09:35:48 AM »
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  • Women are wired differently. They have their own immoral "porn" equivalent -- but it takes a vastly different form.
    It's called a Romance Novel.

    Romance novels "set up" the characters. Women (unless they've been corrupted, over-sɛҳuąƖized, their nature tampered with, or they have above-average sex drive) aren't interested in watching or reading about sex "without any context".

    They need a backstory. Hence the difference between romance novels and male porn.

    I never thought of it in the above terms before, but it makes sense that women need a backstory and context. Though I don't understand why women would want to read the disgusting modern romances. 

    I have to wonder if even the old-fashioned romance novels written by, say, Charlotte Bronte and Jane Austin (which were for the most part chaste), were a set-up for the modern romance novels, though maybe unintentionally. 
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    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #26 on: March 15, 2018, 09:49:08 AM »
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  • Firstly, your entire post is much too graphic for me and should be removed.
    You say that because you weren't able to refute the facts that I stated. Instead, you grant yourself a waiver to the duty of refutation and claim "that's too graphic".



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    Secondly, I wonder how you are able to communicate with women at ALL in real life, considering your condescending attitude towards them.
    I feel for you.

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #27 on: March 15, 2018, 09:50:56 AM »
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  • Overall, men should be held to the same (or very similar but as applied to men) standards of modesty as women.  Not only COULD they cause temptations to many, but they should exhibit modesty out of example to everyone else, including women.  If a man runs around shirtless but then rails at women who show a little cleavage, how is that going to strike a woman except as being hypocritical?  Female immodesty is discussed almost ad nauseam but male immodesty not even raised as an issue.  Sounds like a double standard.

    Says the guy who probably pushes a pen for a living and hides himself from the elements when he exercises in air conditioned environments.

    Some laborious acts in the outdoors necessitate men to go shirtless or wear shorts.
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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #28 on: March 15, 2018, 09:51:36 AM »
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  • How do people survive, spiritually, when they are so vicious to God's creation?
    He's always been one of those people with a Roosh-V mentality - misogynistic, condescending towards women and men. When Mary is the Queen of our Church! Machismo is not everything, especially when many saints were meek and excelled in humility. 

    It's quite disgusting.
    Remember O most gracious Virgin Mary...

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    Re: Male Immodesty Tempts Feminine Women?
    « Reply #29 on: March 15, 2018, 09:52:58 AM »
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  • Some laborious acts in the outdoors necessitate men to go shirtless or wear shorts.
    I don't recall any monastery which has shorts and no shirts as their habit.