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Re: Major CathInfo outage
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2022, 03:43:02 PM »
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  • No one can post in General anymore except Matthew.  It was being abused so you have to post in the nearest appropriate heading.
    Ok, thanks. 
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #31 on: September 05, 2022, 12:17:24 AM »
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  • As for internet service providers not pulling the plug on websites, since they're basically infrastructure/utility --

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/04/tech/cloudfare-blocked/index.html
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    Matthew Prince, the CEO of Cloudflare, has long expressed discomfort about his company's potential role of deciding what can and cannot be online. It is a position echoed by others in Silicon Valley who argue it shouldn't be up to them to police speech online.

    "This is an extraordinary decision for us to make and, given Cloudflare's role as an Internet infrastructure provider, a dangerous one that we are not comfortable with," Prince wrote in a blog post Saturday after blocking Kiwi Farms.

    But, he said the rhetoric on Kiwi Farms "and specific, targeted threats have escalated over the last 48 hours to the point that we believe there is an unprecedented emergency and immediate threat to human life unlike we have previously seen from Kiwifarms or any other customer before."

    While they are saying this is an "unprecedented emergency and immediate threat to human life," as people seem to be harassing some "Canadian trans woman[sic]", we're only a couple steps and a fαℓѕє fℓαg attack [say, the murder of a sodomite] before any sites that express disapproval of sodomy or other such aberrations are shut down as [somewhat less than] immediate threat to human life.


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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #32 on: September 05, 2022, 02:03:07 AM »
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  • As for internet service providers not pulling the plug on websites, since they're basically infrastructure/utility --

    https://www.cnn.com/2022/09/04/tech/cloudfare-blocked/index.html
    While they are saying this is an "unprecedented emergency and immediate threat to human life," as people seem to be harassing some "Canadian trans woman[sic]", we're only a couple steps and a fαℓѕє fℓαg attack [say, the murder of a sodomite] before any sites that express disapproval of sodomy or other such aberrations are shut down as [somewhat less than] immediate threat to human life.

    Cloudflare is a service though. They stand in between websites and customers, basically masking the REAL location of a website, so Denial-of-Service attacks can't reach the actual website target. It functions like a shield of sorts.

    Basically I would point CathInfo to "Cloudflare", and that's the only IP address you'd ever see. You physically couldn't see the IP address where CathInfo REALLY resides; only Cloudflare would know this. They would stand out in front of CathInfo and block any Denial of Service attacks.

    That's my understanding of what Cloudflare does. They might offer other services too, but nothing you can't get elsewhere.

    Basically, the common wisdom is that once you reach a certain size, or a certain prominence/importance, you NEED services like Cloudflare to protect you or you WILL fall victim (collapse because of) DoS and DDoS attacks.
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #33 on: September 05, 2022, 10:20:29 AM »
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  • we're only a couple steps and a fαℓѕє fℓαg attack [say, the murder of a sodomite] before any sites that express disapproval of sodomy or other such aberrations are shut down as [somewhat less than] immediate threat to human life.
    That was it. They fαℓѕє fℓαgged multiple swattings and blamed it on kiwifarms. Using it as an excuse to take down the forum, so people have no place to speak freely online unless it's the politically correct narrative. 

    Cloudflare blocking the site was the final straw. There are no other options equipped to handle the forum. 

    This is unprecedented within the age of the Internet and I'm sure any sort of free speech the Internet still had will be handled similarly.

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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #34 on: September 05, 2022, 12:01:06 PM »
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  • Cathinfo went down for me a couple of times last week and once or twice the week before.  I use a browser called Vivaldi (customizable and fairly private) and wondered if that was the issue, but a reboot each time brought everything back. I also have Linux computer that I use when Windows gives me problems.  Perhaps a Linux based system would slow down or eliminate interference from the big boys.  It's easy to use, easy to change over your computer, and at the very least it won't be subject to viruses. Still, you'll need someone familiar with Linux to carry you through the process.   Good luck with everything Matthew.     


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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #35 on: September 05, 2022, 12:23:29 PM »
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  • Cloudflare is a service though. They stand in between websites and customers, basically masking the REAL location of a website, so Denial-of-Service attacks can't reach the actual website target. It functions like a shield of sorts.

    Basically I would point CathInfo to "Cloudflare", and that's the only IP address you'd ever see. You physically couldn't see the IP address where CathInfo REALLY resides; only Cloudflare would know this. They would stand out in front of CathInfo and block any Denial of Service attacks.

    That's my understanding of what Cloudflare does. They might offer other services too, but nothing you can't get elsewhere.

    Basically, the common wisdom is that once you reach a certain size, or a certain prominence/importance, you NEED services like Cloudflare to protect you or you WILL fall victim (collapse because of) DoS and DDoS attacks.

    Yes, it's a service, but this is step one toward their interfering with "infrastructure".  Mostly what people use it for is as a CDN (content delivery network).  So the CEO objected on those grounds, but felt he had no choice.  Next step of course is that they fαℓѕє fℓαg some sodomite getting killed as the result of some hostility on a forum, and then they'll start creating lists of sites that are anti-sodomite and start taking them down.  We're not there yet, but even Stevie Wonder can see where this is going.

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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #36 on: September 05, 2022, 01:37:26 PM »
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  • Next step of course is that they fαℓѕє fℓαg some sodomite getting killed as the result of some hostility on a forum, and then they'll start creating lists of sites that are anti-sodomite and start taking them down.  We're not there yet, but even Stevie Wonder can see where this is going.

    Yes, and that's when it's time to start doing stuff -- in minecraft, of course. ;)

    For further discussion of what should be done at that point -- we'd have to take it to the Members Only.
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #37 on: September 05, 2022, 03:21:57 PM »
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  • That was it. They fαℓѕє fℓαgged multiple swattings and blamed it on kiwifarms. Using it as an excuse to take down the forum, so people have no place to speak freely online unless it's the politically correct narrative.

    Cloudflare blocking the site was the final straw. There are no other options equipped to handle the forum.

    This is unprecedented within the age of the Internet and I'm sure any sort of free speech the Internet still had will be handled similarly.
    It isn't the first time Cloudfare has taken action, though. First was Andrew Anglin's Daily Stormer and then 8chan (some manifestos were posted there), but it's not a good precedent.

    The DOJ began working on legislation attempts relating to the 1996 Communications Decency Act under AG Barr, and I doubt they've stopped. Until there is a change at the legal level, I expect to see ever increasing escalations to control the internet through other means. They need the laws changed to engage in lawfare against those who engage in or allow wrongthink.
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #38 on: September 10, 2022, 08:19:38 AM »
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #39 on: September 10, 2022, 08:49:34 AM »
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  • Clicking on any thread results in blank content (even though the page numbers are there).  I've tried different browsers, refreshing, clearing cache.  Not hopeful that this post will go through.
    I can see them if I hit reply. Otherwise, same problem here regardless of browser.
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #40 on: September 10, 2022, 10:12:52 AM »
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  • I broke it -- sorry about that. I made a change to the upvote/downvote system, and apparently made a typo.
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #41 on: September 12, 2022, 06:15:34 AM »
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  • I broke it -- sorry about that. I made a change to the upvote/downvote system, and apparently made a typo.
    Just tried to upthumb someone and it wouldn't work.
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #42 on: September 12, 2022, 06:20:43 AM »
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  • Just tried to upthumb someone and it wouldn't work.
    Tested it.  Says page won't load.

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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #43 on: September 12, 2022, 06:24:23 AM »
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  • Just tried to upthumb someone and it wouldn't work.
    It worked for me as you can see!
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    Re: Major CathInfo outage
    « Reply #44 on: September 12, 2022, 06:27:06 AM »
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  • It worked for me as you can see!
    I tried to upthumb you and got a blank sheet, no upthumb.

    down thumb worked  -sorry Nadir lol

    Upthumb did not work for Nadir, but it did for TKGS and 2V, did not work for Matthew.
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