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Offline egbert

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« on: February 09, 2016, 05:16:51 PM »
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  • I would very much appreciate some advice.  I was baptized but never catechized or confirmed.  Raised atheist but am now drawn to the Church, particularly the traditional Church.  I have questions and concerns, mostly about my own acceptability and ability to understand the doctrine.  However, I have no one really to talk to or seek advice from.  If anyone can recommend anything, I will really appreciate it.  Thank you.


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    « Reply #1 on: February 09, 2016, 05:31:51 PM »
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  • The best priests I have known told me that instruction in the Faith is something that must be done in person.  So, in order to recommend a good priest to you, we would have to know what area you're in because here in this forum you could be on another continent as far as we know.  

    You can get some specific answers to particular questions here but what you need is to talk to a priest and help him set up some kind of schedule for you where you can meet each week for some period of time.  It can't happen overnight.  And you should give it the time it needs so you can build on a secure foundation!

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    « Reply #2 on: February 09, 2016, 06:03:05 PM »
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  • New York.

    Thanks for your reply.

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    « Reply #3 on: February 09, 2016, 06:52:29 PM »
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    New York.

    Thanks for your reply.

    I suggest you start attending a traditional Catholic chapel.
    If you live in New York city there are two traditional Chapels that I know about and there are also a few Diocesan Churches that have the traditional Mass also. The one in Manhattan is the SSPX chapel in a hotel room on Lexington Ave called St. Christopher's Mission. I go to Mass there. And there is one in Bayside Queens which is an independent chapel called Our Lady of La Salette. I have never been there myself. If you live outside of New York city in another part of the state there are a number of different chapels that you can find out about on the internet.
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    « Reply #4 on: February 09, 2016, 06:58:28 PM »
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  • Egbert, my prayers will be with you. I would suggest also meeting with a Traditional priest.


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    « Reply #5 on: February 09, 2016, 07:02:44 PM »
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  • Thank you for your advice and especially prayers.  

    I see that I have a private message, but it tells me I am not an established user, so cannot see it.  Can I fix that?

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    « Reply #6 on: February 09, 2016, 07:21:01 PM »
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  • Pray the Rosary, too. If you are unfamiliar with that, then please do look it up online.

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    « Reply #7 on: February 09, 2016, 08:13:29 PM »
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    Thank you for your advice and especially prayers.  

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    « Reply #8 on: February 09, 2016, 08:21:49 PM »
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  • Will do.  Will need to get a rosary to pray the Rosary.  In the meantime (am sick and can't go out for a bit) will learn the prayers.  I was hoping to learn them in Latin, since I have enough Latin to understand that level of syntax, and it will help me focus.  Does anyone know any reason I shouls NOT do that?

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    « Reply #9 on: February 09, 2016, 08:59:06 PM »
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  • There's no reason not to.

    Congratulations on your conversion.

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    « Reply #10 on: February 09, 2016, 09:07:53 PM »
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    Will do.  Will need to get a rosary to pray the Rosary.  

    I can recommend simple, nylon cord rosaries with plastic beads, which are available in private chapels for free, already blessed.  They are more durable than any other style because they don't wear out and don't break.  

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    In the meantime (am sick and can't go out for a bit) will learn the prayers.  I was hoping to learn them in Latin, since I have enough Latin to understand that level of syntax, and it will help me focus.  Does anyone know any reason I shoul[d] NOT do that?

    No reason at all.  In fact, if you learn the Rosary in Latin you might find it useful sometime when you're with others from foreign countries because Latin SHOULD be a unifying language.  

    Of course, it used to be more unifying when lots of Catholics knew it better.  

    You can find the prayers of the Rosary in Latin on a website: Traditio (dot) com and I'd put a link here for you to find the right page immediately but it might not come out properly (the CathInfo auto system is programmed to change links to certain websites).

    A word of caution:  The Rosary has a lot of Hail Mary prayers and if you're not ready for that you might start saying them too quickly which isn't good.  So keep your mind on the mystery at hand while you say the prayers and don't go too fast.  It takes about 15 or 20 minutes to pray the Rosary devoutly.

    There is a thread here with some very good meditations that gives a short sentence for each of the 150 Hail Mary's in a complete Rosary:  

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Lets-Pray-not-just-SAY-the-Rosary-150-picture-meditations

    If you want help finding Latin prayers I can post them here for you.  Here is the most frequently repeated prayer:

    Hail Mary
    Ave Maria gratia plena, Dominus tecuм.  Benedicta tu in mulieribus et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Jesu.  Sancta Maria, mater Dei, ora pro nobis pecatoribus, nunc, et in hora mortis nostrae.  Amen.

    The Credo is sometimes hard to find, and be careful not to get a corrupted version.

    The Pater Noster is found in any Latin Missal, as it is said at Mass after every consecration.  

    The Gloria Patri is also in the Missal.

    There is a prayer that has been popularly added after the Gloria Patri of each decade, called the Fatima Prayer, which Our Lady of Fatima gave to the 3 shepherd children.  That has at least two versions in Latin so you can take your pick.  There never has been any "official" Vatican version disseminated:

    O my Jesus, forgive us our sins;  save us from the fires of hell;  lead all souls to heaven especially those most in need.  (You commonly hear Catholics end this with "...of Thy mercy," however, the earliest records of the apparitions of Fatima did not have those three words.)  

    It is most usual practice to include the Hail, Holy Queen (Salve Regina) at the end of the 5-decade Rosary (or at the end of any 15-decade Rosary, if you can muster that much).  Also, lots of Rosary groups include other prayers at the end, like St Michael Archangel (Sancte Michael Archangeli), and the Collect or Prayer found in the Latin Missal for the Feast of the Holy Rosary (October 7th).  

    Incidentally, there are at least 3 English versions of the St. Michael prayer in use, so be prepared for some confusion in that when you meet with others for the Rosary.  This is another reason to use Latin because everyone has the official Pope Leo XIII Latin St. Michael prayer.

    Collect/Prayer - Oct. 7th:
    O God, whose only begotten Son, by His life, death and resurrection has purchased for us the reward of eternal salvation, grant, we beseech Thee, that meditating upon these mysteries of the most holy Rosary of the Blessed Virgin Mary, we may imitate what they contain and obtain what they promise, through the same Christ our Lord.  Amen.  (Standard Latin version is found in the daily Missal.)
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    « Reply #11 on: February 09, 2016, 09:29:42 PM »
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    Thank you for your advice and especially prayers.  

    I see that I have a private message, but it tells me I am not an established user, so cannot see it.  Can I fix that?

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    « Reply #12 on: February 09, 2016, 10:09:48 PM »
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  • Neil Obstat -- thank you for the detailed post.  Thanks to everyone on this thread.

    If you see a correct Credo and can post it, I will be grateful.  I will attempt to find it but will hold off if I can't find it.

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    « Reply #13 on: February 09, 2016, 10:19:27 PM »
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    Thank you for your advice and especially prayers.  

    I see that I have a private message, but it tells me I am not an established user, so cannot see it.  Can I fix that?

    The system requires you to make a number of posts before you can view PMs.

    So make more posts and keep checking! (I don't know how many)

    That's incorrect.

    You'll be able to read PMs about 1 week after you join, no matter how much you post or don't post.

    Sorry for the misinfo.  I looked all over the site for a list of rules and stuff but couldn't find any.  I didn't want to bother you, MD.  Thanks for the correction.

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    « Reply #14 on: February 09, 2016, 10:24:46 PM »
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  • I think this page has everything you need to pray the Rosary in Latin.

    http://catholicism.org/rosary-latin-2.html
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