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Offline Telesphorus

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« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2013, 07:37:54 PM »
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  • I would prefer not to see men with hair longer than the hair of the women.

    With today's styles, that's a real possibility.

    While longer hair (than is typical today) has at times been acceptable, socially there are pretty clear cut norms regarding this, even today.

    Standards are not always absolute, sometimes cultural norms, when they are in accord with Tradition, should be followed.


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    « Reply #16 on: June 19, 2013, 07:49:05 PM »
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  • I like long hair in men, provided that it is clean and well -groomed. Long hair in men are not a sign of rebellion of our times. Men have used their hair long throughout history!
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    « Reply #17 on: June 19, 2013, 07:59:53 PM »
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  • Short hair was a favored style among the French Revolutionaries.

    Historically and traditionally speaking, long hair on men is a significant part of Catholic culture.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    « Reply #18 on: June 19, 2013, 08:08:00 PM »
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  • Knights, angels, and even Our Lord Himself are "portrayed" as a long hair men. I do not find those representations "repulsive" at all but manly and dignified.

    Also, beards can be flattering to some men. Again, and always, with an impeccable appearance, well-groomed and taken care of.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    « Reply #19 on: June 19, 2013, 08:08:49 PM »
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  • It's funny how some trads are so sensitive to the evils of modern culture, and how we must fight against it, substantially and cosmetically, and then they'll get all ornery about men with long hair because it's culturally rebellious.  Right.  I smell fiftiesism.  Crew cuts for everyone!
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    « Reply #20 on: June 19, 2013, 08:14:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mithrandylan
    It's funny how some trads are so sensitive to the evils of modern culture, and how we must fight against it, substantially and cosmetically, and then they'll get all ornery about men with long hair because it's culturally rebellious.  Right.  I smell fiftiesism.  Crew cuts for everyone!
    I'll bring the clippers!  :laugh1:


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    « Reply #21 on: June 19, 2013, 09:22:32 PM »
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  • Speaking as a man, the current long hair and facial briar patch thing is just lazy.  It says, "I can't be bothered with grooming" or "I prefer to embrace my inner animal."  Sure, point out all the saints throughout history with long hair and beards as precedent, but those men were doing something with meaning and holiness.  I challenge anyone to point out someone today with the ZZ Top meets Rasputin look that is doing anything truly and genuinely productive.  And I don't mean the nice hippies down the street running the organic vegetable smoothie operation or the closet yuppies that morphed into Duck Dynasty.

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    « Reply #22 on: June 19, 2013, 09:39:02 PM »
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  • Quote from: Novus Weirdo
    Speaking as a man, the current long hair and facial briar patch thing is just lazy.  It says, "I can't be bothered with grooming" or "I prefer to embrace my inner animal."  Sure, point out all the saints throughout history with long hair and beards as precedent, but those men were doing something with meaning and holiness.  I challenge anyone to point out someone today with the ZZ Top meets Rasputin look that is doing anything truly and genuinely productive.  And I don't mean the nice hippies down the street running the organic vegetable smoothie operation or the closet yuppies that morphed into Duck Dynasty.


    As if there's a surplus of great and holy men clean shaven with short hair.

    Good Catholics are in short supply.  It has nothing to do with the length of hair.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    « Reply #23 on: June 19, 2013, 09:53:03 PM »
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  • Interestingly enough, the disdain of long hair seems to be the result of Catholics inability to draw visual connotations from anything besides pop culture.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    « Reply #24 on: June 19, 2013, 10:41:40 PM »
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  • Quote from: Mithrandylan

    As if there's a surplus of great and holy men clean shaven with short hair.


    There are a lot of great and holy men clean shaven with short hair.  Pope Pius X, +Williamson, Father Hewko, and Father Pfeiffer come to mind; I've yet to see a picture of them looking like Billy Ray Cyrus or Abbie Hoffman.  OOPS!  There's that pop culture reference!

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    Good Catholics are in short supply.  It has nothing to do with the length of hair.


    Yes, which is precisely why threads like these are without any redeeming value.


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    « Reply #25 on: June 19, 2013, 11:47:31 PM »
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  • I'm repulsed by crew cuts but more so by the general attitude of those who think they are the only hairstyle. I just don't think they look nice and I can't stand people telling men with long hair that they need a haircut. I always get upset when the barber takes cuts my boys' and husband's hair too short, I think they look great with long hair, and would look fine with hair even the length of Our Lord's.

    I think men look like gentlemen with longer hair as well as facial hair. Crew cuts make them look hardened and harsh or like they are military. It doesn't matter what I think, what matters is their love for Our Lord and Our Lady. I realize though that long hair can be a way to combat vanity just as much as short hair. Both can honor virtue and emulate the saints.

    As for what other people said, longer hair has always historically been the norm in Catholic culture, those with shaved, short hair have often been involved as soldiers in a secular or pagan state.


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    « Reply #26 on: June 20, 2013, 01:52:04 AM »
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  • Charlemagne:
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    « Reply #27 on: June 20, 2013, 03:42:01 AM »
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  • haha it looks like most of the women here empathize with this poor cavalier against the "roundhead"


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    « Reply #28 on: June 20, 2013, 04:31:59 AM »
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  • Are there any RECENT Catholic heroes with the long hair/beard combo?  Like from the last 200 years?

    Maybe the Great Monarch will.

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    « Reply #29 on: June 20, 2013, 05:10:23 AM »
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  • Quote from: Novus Weirdo
    Speaking as a man, the current long hair and facial briar patch thing is just lazy.  It says, "I can't be bothered with grooming" or "I prefer to embrace my inner animal."  Sure, point out all the saints throughout history with long hair and beards as precedent, but those men were doing something with meaning and holiness.  I challenge anyone to point out someone today with the ZZ Top meets Rasputin look that is doing anything truly and genuinely productive.  And I don't mean the nice hippies down the street running the organic vegetable smoothie operation or the closet yuppies that morphed into Duck Dynasty.


    I accept your challenge and point out myself. My hair is getting longer and I have an eight inch beard. I think I'm truly productive. I don't not shave out of laziness either.