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Books about the Knights Templar
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2016, 02:40:06 PM »
Quote from: roscoe
Maybe you are reading a different translation than moi. :confused1:

 Unless I am mistaken, sodomy, heresy and blasphemy( all of which are mentioned specifically by the Pope) fall in the catagory of faith & morals-- fact is that the infallible Bulls of Clement have never been rescinded.

Fr Parsons essay in vol 2 easily debunks the Clement/ Philip 'deal' allegation.

At any rate, many thanks for posting docuмents.

I will comment more after reading all the Bulls.  :soapbox:


It is explicitly mentioned but it does not teach or define. It discusses whether or not the Templars are guilty of these crimes. It's a transcript of the Trials and the actions being taken throughout this trial.

Books about the Knights Templar
« Reply #56 on: February 06, 2016, 10:02:14 PM »
roscoe said:

"Pardon me for being a little confused.  

You have spent much time recently attempting to convince the Forum that Papal Bulls are 'fallible'. As such, does that mean that Catholics are not bound to what they say? Why bother posting Papal Bulls if that is the case?

When the Pope pronounces ex-communication for some offenses in the above Bulls, does this mean that he is wrong?"


Papal Infallibility can apply to a specific topic within a Bull but not the entire Bull for often they may deal with several matters which can be excluded from Papal Infallibility.




Books about the Knights Templar
« Reply #57 on: February 06, 2016, 10:09:18 PM »
"In order to preserve the Church in the purity of the faith handed on by the apostles, Christ who is Truth willed to confer on her a share in his own infallibility. By a supernatural sense of faith the People of God, under the guidance of the Church's living magisterium, unfailingly adheres to this faith." Catechism, p. 235, #889

"The Roman Pontiff... enjoys this infallibility in virtue of his office, when, as supreme pastor and teacher of all the faithful - who confirms his brethren in the faith - he proclaims by a definitive act a doctrine pertaining to faith or morals... This infallibility extends as far as the deposit of divine Revelation itself." Catechism, pg. 235, #891

"The Supreme Pontiff, in virtue of his office, possesses infallible teaching authority when ... he proclaims with a definitive act that a doctrine of faith or morals is to be held as such." Code of Canon Law, Can. 747


Just some quotes regarding Papal Infallibility to help us know what to look for in these docuмents to determine where they teach Infallibly.