TY, it's always a dilemma, isn't it, that an overly controlled venue can stifle discussion while a less controlled one can disrupt it.

But the seriousness of catering to obvious charlatans who masquerade under the sede flag is more than I can tolerate.

The militance of the death cult is exploding and this forum is giving hospitality to young thugs, and how can you explain Matthew posting that how-to-make-bomb link?

To separate from the one true Church is to join the only other side there is. You can think you are not doing that, as for many years among the Protestants I also thought, but the fact is, the "One True Church" doctrine does not require that the One true Church be always right.

The Pope does not have to be perfect to still be the Pope.

And the corollary is that the Devil does not have to be 100% evil to still be the Devil.

Some sedes are standing with both feet on that famously paved road, while others are not at all interested in Catholic tradition except for its usefulness to them as a tool of confusion and assault on Eternal Life itself.

That's a lie to say there hs been a Pope with more girlfriends than Tiger Woods.

That's a lie to say there hs been a Pope with more girlfriends than Tiger Woods.

 Alexander VI had more girlfriends than Tiger Woods

petertherock said:

Well Papal infallibility doesn't mean the Pope can't err. Many Popes before VII have erred badly. One Pope had more girlfriends than Tiger Woods.

I don't think you know how many girlfriends either man had, and anyway, what you're talking about is personal sin.  The VII Popes and Pius XII taught heresies and/or errors through the Solemn Magisterium, and that cannot happen in the true Church.  Ergo, not only are these not true Popes, but you are in a schismatic sect.  

Don't be confused when they say VII was "pastoral" and then switch and say it was "dogmatic."  These were genuine encylicals.  Can a "Pope" teach and then not teach at the same time?  Has there ever been any such thing as a non-binding pastoral encyclical before?  Those mind games could not be employed by real teachers, real Popes.

But there are plenty of heresies in post-VII docuмents, just go out and search.

Redemptor Hominis --

"The opening made by the Second Vatican Council has enabled the Church and all Christians to reach a more complete awareness of the mystery of Christ, 'the mystery hidden for ages' in God, to be revealed in time in the Man Jesus Christ, and to be revealed continually in every time."

Petertherock, where is the heresy here?  Is it that JPII suggests that Prots can learn from the Church?  No, because they can, hopefully to the point where they'd want to join the Church.  The heresy is that he says that a Council led to a more complete awareness of Christ.  This would be heresy if he was talking about the Council of Florence, let alone that stygian Council from the 60's, because all was revealed with the Apostles.  

JPII pretends to try to backtrack in the last part and allude to this, saying that the same truths are "revealed continually in every time," suggesting they have always been there since "the Man Jesus Christ," which is not exactly correct, they have always been there since the APOSTLES, so while seeming to retreat from his "error," really a deliberately implanted heresy, he actually reiterates it in a different form...  Bla bla bla.  It's the usual mix of deadly ingredients that Pius X called Modernism.

I've explained this systematic use of mind-bending paradox many times elsewhere, but I think I did a pretty good job in this undiscovered thread --

http://www.cathinfo.com/index.php?a=topic&t=10086

JPII is using the same old double-minded Modernist technique of saying the truth and then a lie, which addles your brain and keeps you frozen and mesmerized and in the grip of the serpent.  The 33rd degree Freemason whose films are a sort of mass hypnosis, James Cameron, made a film called TRUE LIES and that title really sums it up.  JPII uses a similar oxymoron in this very encyclical that I just found, saying that some accuse the VII council of promoting "specific indifferentism."  

This is how people end up believing that birth control is not birth control, like with NFP.  

There are other heresies in Redemptor Hominis but I want to get a bite to eat.  Tornpage from Pascendi found a big one that I'm looking for now, but it isn't turning up.

Just use the ignore function littlerose.  Eventualy you won't notice them.

Darryl,
That principle of limited infallibility has been part of basic Cahtolic teaching for many years. It is an artifice of the pseudo-sedes and pseudo-catholics to claim that every jot and tittle out of the Vatican has to be doctrine and dogma.

That is why i am disgusted with the way the owners of this forum are allowing these people who were not Catholic in the first place to hijack threads and attack Catholics who post here.  I am assuming that a true "sede" at least started out as a Catholic, otherwise you are just still the same protestant or pagan that you were to begin with, and you have no place in a Traditional Catholic forum, sede or not.( eg, Raoul, who has posted that he went straight from "pagan" to "sede" and it shows in most of his postings that I saw before ignoring him.)

Roscoe is a kid who is being allowed to attack every discussion with his defense of abortionists and his defense of the assault on the Church in the 1960s.  Adults cannot discuss culture or history or anything without having the thread derailed by his obtuse remarks, for example in a thread talking about the tactics we faced in the sixties, he first attacks me for posting prolife in an unrelated discussion and then he posts the absurd remark that the lyrics of the Beatles song "Lady Madonna" defend large families! The brief quote from the song was posted there for the purpose of discussion by another woman, but we cannot have a discussion around the hateful postings that are so obviously not even Catholic besides being childishly rude.

I too agree with you and wish you would stay.  The more reasonable people there are, the more that people like Roscoe with their bizarre pro-beatles pro-drug opinions will be drowned out.

All green herbs have been blessed by God in Gen 9:3. I take this and all other Biblical verses quite literally. I am not surprised that the Jansenists that lurk in this Forum see that as 'pro-drug'.

We are still waiting for an explanation as to how a woman with 'babies at her breast and feet' qualifies as birth control. Ciao

Rock music is bad without the lyrics - it is the primal beats which are the problem.

As for green herbs - tobacco is green too (in case you hadn't noticed) - yet you are virulently opposed to that.