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Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.
   
- John Adams
   



It's been a long time since I've been a child, and because I don't have any children of my own, I had almost forgotten how children really were sometimes, and still are, even today. I was abruptly reminded of it when, after doing some preliminary research on the ʝʊdɛօ/Christian Tradition, I suddenly rediscovered what it was like when children decide to be total brats about something and the things they will say and do during these 'special' moments in their young lives. It's truly something to behold, let me tell you. It's even worse when fully-grown adults, whether they are tenured University professors or published authors, suddenly decide to loudly and publicly act in an infantile manner, literally regressing back to childhood and then acting in exactly the same manner as 'total brats'.
   
Anyway, I'll try to keep this post short and to the point by simply reminding my fellow adults about a few of the 'total brat' strategies I have just witnessed within the past few days. For starters, when 'total brats' really, really don't like something they will stubbornly and irrationally deny that it exists. Most amazing is the specific words they will use as a part of their denial such as: 'There's no such thing as (fill in blank)' or 'I don't believe in (fill in blank)'. Now, as I was saying before, I ran directly into this child-like refusal of accept reality while looking up sources and references to the ʝʊdɛօ/Christian tradition. After perusing the numerous Dictionary definitions and Encyclopedia entries, all of which had the exact same title 'ʝʊdɛօ-Christian Tradition'. I eventually ran into a whole slew of malcontents who apparently felt the overwhelming desire to deny reality, just like a child who decides to act like a 'total brat'. Never mind that professional companies and corporations have published reference books that include the very words 'ʝʊdɛօ-Christian Tradition', or that there are literally dozens upon dozens of Newspaper and Magazine articles, essays, and op/eds which have the term 'ʝʊdɛօ-Christian Tradition' as a part of their titles or headlines, because for the 'total brat' this really isn't proof that there is such a thing. When the 'total brat' decides something does not exist, then no matter what happens, it simply does not exist. What follows is a summary of the 'total brat' tactics that certain fully-grown adults have used in their effort to deny the existence of something they obviously do not like at all, namely the 'ʝʊdɛօ-Christian Tradition'. Included below is a two-part summary of clearly absurd denials in the existence of a Dictionary defined, Encyclopedia explained, phrase in the English language commonly known as the ʝʊdɛօ/Christian Tradition:

   
Denial of Reality #1: There is NO ʝʊdɛօ/Christian Tradition
   
Jacob Neusner: Theologically and historically, there is NO such thing as the ʝʊdɛօ-Christian tradition.
   
Gary North: There is NO ʝʊdɛօ-Christian tradition. There never was one.
   
Newsweek Magazine: Politicians appeal to a ʝʊdɛօ-Christian tradition, but religious scholars say it NO longer exists.
   
New Dawn Magazine: Reviewing the last two thousand years of Western Christian history there is really NO evidence of a ʝʊdɛօ-Christian tradition.



   
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Denial of Reality #2: The ʝʊdɛօ/Christian Tradition is a Myth
   
Jacob Neusner: There is no...ʝʊdɛօ-Christian tradition. It's a secular Myth favored by people who are not really believers themselves.
   
Newsweek Magazine: For scholars of American religion...the idea of a single ʝʊdɛօ-Christian tradition is a made-in-America Myth that many of them no longer regard as valid.
   
Stephen M. Feldman: The Myth of the ʝʊdɛօ-Christian tradition insidiously obscures the real and significant differences between Judaism and Christianity
   
Gary North: There is no ʝʊdɛօ-Christian tradition...The whole concept is Mythical.

   
Clearly, the individuals and publications cited above have a serious problem with this descriptive term 'ʝʊdɛօ-Christian Tradition'. Yes, one could surmise that it is simply another example of standard, run-of-the-mill Jєω-hatred, but that cannot explain why several obviously Jєωιѕн critics have joined with their Gentile comrades in mutually despising the historical, actual, and factual reality of this designation. Basically, a very small amount of Jєωs who don't like Christianity (or Christians), and Christians who don't like Judaism (or Jєωs), have decided to vent their anger and frustration at a particular phrase, a set of words that neither thinks, nor feels, nor does. It's just a word, for Gosh sakes! Or actually, two words (ʝʊdɛօ/Christian Tradition), or even three if you count 'the' as well (The ʝʊdɛօ/Christian Tradition). In the end, there is little that others can do when adults, like 'total brat' children, insist upon denying reality over and over again until they get what they want. However, there is a word for what they have been doing, and continue to do- it's called lying. And even 'total brats' should never be allowed to lie for very long.

   
The ACTUAL ʝʊdɛօ/Christian Tradition
   
ACTUAL DESIGNATION: The ʝʊdɛօ-Christian Tradition (http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Jud...tian_tradition)
   
ACTUAL USE: The phrase 'ʝʊdɛօ-Christian'...is nevertheless a common term in American cultural and political rhetoric. (ʝʊdɛօ-Christian, Wikipedia)
   
ACTUAL EXISTENCE: The ʝʊdɛօ-Christian tradition is, most certainly, not just a myth in colloquial terms meaning a falsehood (historical or not), but a powerful and expedient religious posture, valid for most people here and now, and bearing witness to a continued symbolic relationship with very real meaningfulness. (Edward Kaplan, Commentary Magazine, 1970)
   
ACTUAL REALITY: There's more than sufficient common ground between Judaism and Christianity to justify the idea of a ʝʊdɛօ-Christian tradition. (Mark Silk, SpiritualPolitics.org)

The emblem showing the Keys of St Peter has an upside-down cross. I cannot swear to it, but I think I read something once ( by Fr Peter Scott? ) saying there was no such thing as ʝʊdɛօ -Christian Tradition.

Well, St. Peter's Cross is an upside-down cross, in remembrance of his martyrdom.

More nonsense from the Judaizers. With similar nonsense Max Krah was able to make a stellar carrier in the German SSPX district, due to the then district superior Fr Pfluger's help. And it opened quiet some doors outside of the SSPX, see Dello Sarto AG.
Today's German SSPX district superior Fr Schmidberger even published Max' nonsense on the German SSPX website: "Discover common roots; dialogue between Jєωs & Catholics", blah-blah.
Nicely flanked by Bp Fellay's Vatican II errors, direct quote: "The Jєωs are our Elder brothers", and "The Jєωs are the Chosen People". In reality however, since their Deicide the perfidious Jєωs are Satan's chosen people.

Maybe Maccabaeus wants to repeat Max' stellar carrier in the US SSPX district?
Did you US Catholics notice any indications coming from your district superior? :-)

Maccabaeus was already well covered in his first thread here :
Me, Jєω, and Gentile


And by the way, this is:
Max, Jєω and Gentile:





... and from his blog this flag:




I'm sending greetings from the Jєωιѕн controlled German-zone in Europe.

ʝʊdɛօ-Christian?  

That term has become popular over the last couple decades and was particularly bandied about as the U.S. was being led into the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq and it's also bandied about to rally support for the State of Israel.

However, it's a contradiction.  Judaism is antithetical to the Catholic Church and vice versa.  They are just as deadly a mix as Catholicism and Conciliarism.  

Judaism lost it's sacredness on the Feast of the Assumption.  I know that you probably won't find a theologian, past or present, to acknowledge this but that is when God decided to enter into our world as one of us and bring to us His Holy Church.  

Now, you will sometimes find people saying that Judaism is the "mother" of Christianity but if you want an example of the kind of "motherhood" that Judaism was, you'd have to look to Andrea Yates, the sick and twisted woman who drowned all five of her children.  Judaism certainly did try to drown Christianity in the early days when Judaism was powerful and Christianity was weak - they failed.  They have not stopped trying in all these centuries so let's please stop referring to them as "friends" or "elder brothers".

Those who think Judaism is the mother of Christianity need to go back to the Last
Gospel and read the first couple paragraphs of the Gospel of St. John.  

Quote from: Francisco

The emblem showing the Keys of St Peter has an upside-down cross. I cannot swear to it, but I think I read something once ( by Fr Peter Scott? ) saying there was no such thing as ʝʊdɛօ -Christian Tradition.

Well, St. Peter's Cross is an upside-down cross, in remembrance of his martyrdom.

Live and learn! Thanks!

In the eighties a British television company made a docuмentary on a priest from Britain moving around India promoting some sort of inculturated mass for Indians (Neo-colonialism eh?). He said that Indian Catholics were not part of the ʝʊdɛօ-Christian Tradition and hence had to do their own thing. That was the first time I heard the term ʝʊdɛօ-Christian Tradition. So there he was having mass in a coconut grove surrounded by about twenty Indian admirers. I thought it was nonsense that this man was trying to push Indian Catholics into a Hinduized liturgy.

This could be said of the neo-SSPX with its judaizing tendencies:

 

Alas! this organization which formerly afforded such promising expectations, this limpid and impetuous stream, has been harnessed in its course by the modern enemies of the Church, and is now no more than a miserable affluent of the great movement of apostasy being organized in every country for the establishment of a One-World Church which shall have neither dogmas, nor hierarchy, neither discipline for the mind, nor curb for the passions, and which, under the pretext of freedom and human dignity, would bring back to the world (if such a Church could overcome) the reign of legalized cunning and force, and the oppression of the weak, and of all those who toil and suffer.

Maccabeus,

I am generally regarded as a philosemite here.  However,there is no such thing as a ʝʊdɛօ-Christian tradition.  There are Jєωιѕн traditions, and there are Christian Traditions.  The Old Testament is of course part of both, but Jєωs and Christians do not share much in the way of a common interpretation of it.  The two religions are mutually exclusive, as any two propositions that hold mutually exclusive points must be.  

Jєωs are quite clear on this.  I have never heard a Jєω use this phrase.  Rabbi Neusner, whom you quote above, explains very cogently why this phrase is meaningless.  

Yes, there is a ʝʊdɛօ-Christian tradition.

His name is Satan.