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Offline Lastdays

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Lay Brother Attire
« on: March 19, 2017, 05:10:52 PM »
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  • Somewhat of a strange subject, but hear me out. I saw what looked to be a Catholic Priest, but I noticed a difference in his collar, as it had a black triangle on it. I found out (through conversation) that he was a Catholic Lay Brother and that the triangle on his collar represents the Trinity and signifies "The Brotherhood."  Sound legit? I have been looking online and so far I've only seen that there may be some difference in the color or length of a Lay Brother's habit or that he may were a different color scapular. Is this type of collar part of Catholic tradition?

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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #1 on: March 19, 2017, 05:38:23 PM »
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  • You don't give much information, e.g. what exactly was he  wearing? 
    I suppose that the triangle could represent the Trinity, though I've not heard this before.. Was he a Trinitarian? There are many varieties of brothers. Colours also vary from order to order - Carmelites and Franciscans wearing brown, Dominicans wearing white and so on.


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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #2 on: March 19, 2017, 06:41:15 PM »
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  • You don't give much information, e.g. what exactly was he  wearing?
    I suppose that the triangle could represent the Trinity, though I've not heard this before.. Was he a Trinitarian? There are many varieties of brothers. Colours also vary from order to order - Carmelites and Franciscans wearing brown, Dominicans wearing white and so on.
    I didn't ask him if he belonged to an Order. I would say most likely not. He looked like a Diocesan Priest. He had a black cassock or shirt (I don't remember). His white collar had a black triangle on the front. The question pertains to the collar and its signification, and if this type of collar is known in Catholic tradition (anywhere).

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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #3 on: March 19, 2017, 06:43:48 PM »
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  • I noticed a difference in his collar, as it had a black triangle on it. I found out (through conversation) that he was a Catholic Lay Brother and that the triangle on his collar represents the Trinity and signifies "The Brotherhood."  Sound legit?
    No.

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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #4 on: March 19, 2017, 07:15:01 PM »
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  • No.
    I didn't think so. I'll wait and see, however, if anyone can come up with something. I've been looking online for a while now, and so far I've found nothing.


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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #5 on: March 20, 2017, 04:42:32 AM »
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  • If he is a lay brother then he belongs to a community. What he wears would be determined by what the community wears. 

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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #6 on: March 20, 2017, 07:37:45 AM »
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  • If he is a lay brother then he belongs to a community. What he wears would be determined by what the community wears.
    Understood. What Lay Brothers wear in a given community, however, must be Catholic. Can what I described regarding his collar and his explanation of the collar be linked to Catholic tradition? If so, where is it found?

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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #7 on: March 20, 2017, 03:48:17 PM »
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  • I didn't ask him if he belonged to an Order. I would say most likely not. He looked like a Diocesan Priest. He had a black cassock or shirt (I don't remember). His white collar had a black triangle on the front. The question pertains to the collar and its signification, and if this type of collar is known in Catholic tradition (anywhere).
    Interesting...  Never heard of this before with the black triangle...
    I did a little research and it seems like it might be more of an occult thing, but I really could not say for sure...
    By the way...  Here is a link to what the Trinitarian habits look like:   :)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_habit#/media/File:Jean_de_Matha_Ordre_de_la_Sainte_Trinit%C3%A9.jpg
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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #8 on: March 20, 2017, 05:46:51 PM »
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  • Interesting...  Never heard of this before with the black triangle...
    I did a little research and it seems like it might be more of an occult thing, but I really could not say for sure...
    By the way...  Here is a link to what the Trinitarian habits look like:   :)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_habit#/media/File:Jean_de_Matha_Ordre_de_la_Sainte_Trinit%C3%A9.jpg
    Thanks for the response and the link. The Lay Brother I saw looked like a Diocesan Priest. He had a black cassock or shirt with a white collar. Now that I think of it, the color of the triangle on his collar may not have been black (but the shape is certain).

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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #9 on: March 20, 2017, 06:22:43 PM »
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  • Just a stab in the dark...this brother might have had his collar on backwards with the collar button showing in the front and not hidden in the back.  I've seen the occasional absent-minded seminarian "goof" up when it comes to buttoning a stiff clerical collar with a collar button and it gets fastened backwards - sort of like wearing a tee-shirt inside out by mistake.   Collar buttons come in all shapes, mostly round, but they do make them square and, yes, even triangle shaped.  I'll bet what you saw was an embarrassing situation where a cleric (or lay brother) buttoned his collar backwards thus showing the collar button in the front instead of being hidden in the back.  It happens...☺️


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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #10 on: March 20, 2017, 07:00:46 PM »
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  • Just a stab in the dark...this brother might have had his collar on backwards with the collar button showing in the front and not hidden in the back.  I've seen the occasional absent-minded seminarian "goof" up when it comes to buttoning a stiff clerical collar with a collar button and it gets fastened backwards - sort of like wearing a tee-shirt inside out by mistake.   Collar buttons come in all shapes, mostly round, but they do make them square and, yes, even triangle shaped.  I'll bet what you saw was an embarrassing situation where a cleric (or lay brother) buttoned his collar backwards thus showing the collar button in the front instead of being hidden in the back.  It happens...☺️
    No, it wasn't an accident. It was a designed collar with a signification (The Trinity and the Brotherhood) according to him.


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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #11 on: March 20, 2017, 11:29:15 PM »
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  • Understood. What Lay Brothers wear in a given community, however, must be Catholic. Can what I described regarding his collar and his explanation of the collar be linked to Catholic tradition? If so, where is it found?
    It is a part of the habit of his community.

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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #12 on: March 21, 2017, 07:51:54 AM »
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  • Thanks for the response and the link. The Lay Brother I saw looked like a Diocesan Priest. He had a black cassock or shirt with a white collar. Now that I think of it, the color of the triangle on his collar may not have been black (but the shape is certain).
    Maybe it was some sort of pin?  I know a number of novus ordo orders tend to have such.  
    At any rate, it is not something that I have heard of before...  
    Sorry I can't be of more help...
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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #13 on: April 11, 2017, 12:59:32 AM »
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  • May be a new brotherhood or priestly fraternity. Sometimes they make small adaptations. Sometimes the local diocese gives specific directions. Usually lay brothers are not allowed to wear the Roman collar even though it stands for celibacy, because the Church does not want laymen to confuse them with priests or bishops.

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    Re: Lay Brother Attire
    « Reply #14 on: April 11, 2017, 02:19:00 AM »
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  • Understood. What Lay Brothers wear in a given community, however, must be Catholic. Can what I described regarding his collar and his explanation of the collar be linked to Catholic tradition? If so, where is it found?
    The mystery of the Holy Trinity is a truth of the Catholic Faith. 

     

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