My opinion of the SSPX has gone pretty low. Bishop Williamson is a holy Bishop suffering grave persecution at the hands of his "brother" priests and bishops. He is like Christ.

The appeals for BXVI, who is being rightfully taken behind the woodshed, while remaining silent about one their own (?) is truly disgusting.

Yes, thanks for posting this.

Hoffman exaggerates and imputes a motive that simply is not there.  The motives are not pernicious and even if they err prudentially or sin by human respect or otherwise make the wrong judgment, these men are not infallible.  Imagine, a Catholic priest not making the most perfect judgments at every turn or one who suffers from a touch of worldiness or some other defect!  Oh, my, a disagreement about concrete facts, this has never happened in the history of the Church!  The horror!  They must be secretly conspiring with the тαℓмυdists!  Taking the slightest fault and making enormous sweeping statements only betrays an agenda and one's own intellectual malformation.  

Hoffman exaggerates and imputes a motive that simply is not there...Taking the slightest fault and making enormous sweeping statements only betrays an agenda and one's own intellectual malformation.

Nothing like ending where you started, so to speak. :rolleyes:

My opinion of the SSPX has gone pretty low. Bishop Williamson is a holy Bishop suffering grave persecution at the hands of his "brother" priests and bishops. He is like Christ.

My opinion of Mr. Hoffmann had gone low, but

THIS ARTICLE NHAS NAILED IT!

There has been dead silence on the part of SSPV and assorted SV groups, doing their тαℓмυdic thing.

Caminus said:

They're obviously trying to stay as discreet as possible about this because they don't want to give any more fuel to the lunatics in the media or society in general.

That's right.  They're covering up the truth to please a world that has gone insane.  Thank you for nailing the whole problem with the SSPX's compromising approach.  

From false premises -- that one should dialogue with non-Catholic usurpers to bring them around to being Catholic -- lead false conclusions -- that one must play nice with the enemy and be "diplomatic."

But if you accept the premises, if you accept that Bishop Fellay's approach is correct, as you must if you are in SSPX -- otherwise you'd be sedevacantist -- then he is doing the right thing.  

Don't blame me.  I am not the one who suggested you dialogue with Judaizers.  But if you do this, don't expect to insult their sacred cow, the h0Ɩ0cαųst, and get away with it.

I cannot say for sure the SSPX are "part of the plot" but it sure looks that way.  This all reminds me of some absurdist farce by Samuel Beckett like Waiting for Godot, where a bunch of faceless figures are involved in some Sisyphean task that never ends.  The SSPX says they are on the offensive and they are going to make the Vatican admit its mistakes, but in reality they are constantly on the defensive and having to cover up the truth so that the world doesn't think they are rude.  

The SSPX trying to dialogue with the Vatican is like Alice in Wonderland having dialogue with the Mad Hatter.  Or like me going on Fox News and arguing with Ann Coulter about the true Church.  I'd end up looking just as dumb as she does, because she'd bring the debate around to some kind of frustratingly lowest-common-denominator level.  

You can't enter an unreal world and make it real.  It's called casting pearls before swine.