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Offline poche

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Re: Latin rite priest getting ordained by an Eastern Catholic Bishop?
« Reply #15 on: March 02, 2020, 10:53:36 PM »
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    • One thing to take into consideration is that during the process of entry into the seminary you will be asked about what you think about Vatican II. If your answer is anything like "Vatican II is heretical." then you will not be admitted.   
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    Re: Latin rite priest getting ordained by an Eastern Catholic Bishop?
    « Reply #16 on: March 02, 2020, 11:47:50 PM »
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    • You have the wrong idea: a person doesn't decide to become a priest. This is a very holy thing. If you think God is calling you to a priestly vocation, you might mention it to a priest. The way it works is that you have to be called. I don't mean by God, but the clergy will invite you if it's right. As the saying goes: called as Aaron was called. Naturally, you wouldn't choose the rite or anything like that. If you go with an Eastern Catholic bunch, you'll have to be an Eastern Catholic. It's not kosher to change rites, but with the current state of chaos, the most important thing is making sure your superiors are true Catholics,  and not heretics like 99.9999 % of so-called Catholics.
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    Re: Latin rite priest getting ordained by an Eastern Catholic Bishop?
    « Reply #17 on: March 03, 2020, 05:45:26 AM »
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    • Quote from: verilyCatholic on March 02, 2020, 11:47:50 PM
    “It's not kosher to change rites”
    Sorry, but this made me laugh. 😀
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    Re: Latin rite priest getting ordained by an Eastern Catholic Bishop?
    « Reply #18 on: March 03, 2020, 05:22:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: verilyCatholic on March 02, 2020, 11:47:50 PM
    You have the wrong idea: a person doesn't decide to become a priest. This is a very holy thing. If you think God is calling you to a priestly vocation, you might mention it to a priest. The way it works is that you have to be called. I don't mean by God, but the clergy will invite you if it's right. As the saying goes: called as Aaron was called. Naturally, you wouldn't choose the rite or anything like that. If you go with an Eastern Catholic bunch, you'll have to be an Eastern Catholic. It's not kosher to change rites, but with the current state of chaos, the most important thing is making sure your superiors are true Catholics,  and not heretics like 99.9999 % of so-called Catholics.
    If you are called, the call is from God Himself, and He uses whatever method and medium of communication He decides.
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    Re: Latin rite priest getting ordained by an Eastern Catholic Bishop?
    « Reply #19 on: March 04, 2020, 11:42:49 PM »
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    • Nadir, I believe that is what the Church teaches. When possible, I let the Church do the thinking. They are much smarter and wiser than me. If you want to think for yourself, good luck to you. 
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    Re: Latin rite priest getting ordained by an Eastern Catholic Bishop?
    « Reply #20 on: March 05, 2020, 12:20:38 AM »
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    • I have never heard of any teaching that says you are called, "I don't mean by God but the clergy".

    Can you give a reference for your "teaching"? 
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    Re: Latin rite priest getting ordained by an Eastern Catholic Bishop?
    « Reply #21 on: March 09, 2020, 01:45:36 PM »
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    • Nadir, I found one: Catechism of the Council of Trent, TAN Books edition, p. 318. It's a little harsh, but I believe it's consistent with the mind of the Church (the pre-Vatican II Church, of course. What the modern Catholic Church says is completely immaterial, since they are not really the Catholic Church). Of course, the call is from holy God, but the clergy are responsible for implementing that call. 
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    Re: Latin rite priest getting ordained by an Eastern Catholic Bishop?
    « Reply #22 on: March 09, 2020, 05:52:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: verilyCatholic on March 02, 2020, 11:47:50 PM
    The way it works is that you have to be called. I don't mean by God but the clergy will invite you if it's right.
    This (bolded) is what I dispute.  I don't have access to this book. Maybe you should give the quote. The call is always God's. How it is revealed or heard varies from person to person. 
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    Re: Latin rite priest getting ordained by an Eastern Catholic Bishop?
    « Reply #23 on: March 11, 2020, 08:59:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: verilyCatholic on March 11, 2020, 01:55:49 PM
    Dispute? Not prudent for a man who doesn't even own a copy of the Catechism of the Council of Trent. Jesus please give me patience.

    Part II The Sacraments : The Sacrament of Holy Orders : Requirements in Candidates for Holy Orders : DIVINE CALL : Let no one take the honour to himself, but he that is called by God as Aaron was; and they are called by God who are called by the lawful ministers of His Church. It is to those who arrogantly intrude themselves into this ministry that the Lord must be understood to refer when He says : I did not send prophets, yet they ran. (Jer. xxiii. 21.) Nothing can be more unhappy and wretched than such a class of men as this, and nothing more calamitous to the Church of God.

    Taken directly from the book, pages 318 and 319. Not my words, Nadir, but theirs. I said it was a little harsh.

    Anyway, note: lawful ministers. Who might that be, pray tell? Francis? Ben. XVI? Paul VI and his flunkies? Heretics at best? No. Look at Pivarunas, the A-hole Sanborn and his lackies, any of the true Catholics. They are today's "lawful ministers ". There is no such thing as a heretical or schismatic lawful minister. That animal don't exist.
    You should really learn to comprehend what you read and to write in a logical fashion without the courseness and crudity.  By the way I am a woman.

    This quote is saying what I said. The call is from God. I have bolded it for you.

    Your note in the last paragraph (I fixed your lack of paragraphs) is irrelevant to anything I have said.
     
    Just a tip: it is not advisible for you to declare any person a heretic or to use offensive language against a consecrated person.  
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    Re: Latin rite priest getting ordained by an Eastern Catholic Bishop?
    « Reply #24 on: March 11, 2020, 11:23:05 PM »
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    • To Nadir : I apologize for saying you are a duffus. I regret doing that. It was wrong. 
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    Re: Latin rite priest getting ordained by an Eastern Catholic Bishop?
    « Reply #25 on: March 12, 2020, 12:38:43 AM »
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    • You are forgiven! Peace be with you.

    I didn't even know what a Duffus is. Now I know. I am definitely not one.  :laugh2:

    https://www.houseofnames.com/duffus-family-crest

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