Author Topic: Koran burning (Read 3151 times)

jhfromsf68 · « **on:** September 08, 2010, 06:01:01 PM »

So what is everyones opinion on the Florida pastor who plans on burning copies of the koran. Would a Traditional Catholic preist do something like this? Just wondering.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Blotter/fbi-retaliation-koran-burning/story?id=11587779

MyrnaM · « **Reply #1 on:** September 08, 2010, 06:24:26 PM »

I doubt a Traditional Catholic priest would do anything like this, but I will say; if anyone profanes the Crucifix or sacred Catholic art, barely a word is spoken. Very little outcry is heard, only excuses for the perp. Never death threats that I remember.

DMorgan · « **Reply #2 on:** September 08, 2010, 06:38:32 PM »

I agree with Myrna. While I do believe this act will inflame our enemies, I do not buy into all the hand wringing that we are seeing in the MSM and from all of the pundits. Last time I checked it is still illegal to posses a Bible in most Moslem countries, including the ones we consider as "allies" in the war on terrorism. The simple fact is islam is bent on world conquest and the pc method will not placate them. Just look to Europe's problems to see how that has worked.

Matthew · « **Reply #3 on:** September 08, 2010, 06:56:16 PM »

Burning a pile of Korans is about as wrong as burning a pile of heretical works that used to be on the Index of Forbidden Books -- which isn't very wrong!

THAT HAVING BEEN SAID...

Arranging a media event whereby a pile of Korans will purposely be burnt -- as we're reading about the media today -- is wrong. It is imprudent, childish, and seems to be a sin against the 5th commandment (inciting others to anger).

It serves no purpose other than to tick people off. All it does is incite Muslims to anger, so what purpose is served? Are Muslims brought to the true Faith?

It's not false ecuмenism to avoid vainly ticking people off. The saints didn't act this way. They told the truth. They condemned error with no minced words. They reluctantly told leaders the truth that they were going to hell, or were in danger of hell. They condemned things that were evil as being evil.

But they didn't do media stunts like this -- no good can come of it. You don't convert Muslims by urinating on a copy of their holy book -- or burning it.

That's about the OPPOSITE of the best way to go about converting a pagan.

I would also like to point out that this yokel (preacher), who no one had heard of last month, is now world-famous, being propelled to fame by the likes of Bill & Hillary Clinton and others. What's the agenda here, I ask?

Matthew

CyberSaint · « **Reply #4 on:** September 08, 2010, 07:14:45 PM »

I agree that we are called to behave in a manner that does not seek to tempt people toward anger. We should look out for our neighbor's wellbeing.

On the other hand, burning the Koran treats that handbook of heresy more decently than I believe it deserves.

Plus, like was stated earlier, we never hear any outcries in the media or government against blasphemous and sacrilegious acts against our Lord Jesus, His Mother, the Saints, and His Church.

That inconsistency ticks me off!

Emerentiana · « **Reply #5 on:** September 08, 2010, 08:00:36 PM »

Quote from: Matthew

Burning a pile of Korans is about as wrong as burning a pile of heretical works that used to be on the Index of Forbidden Books -- which isn't very wrong!

THAT HAVING BEEN SAID...

Arranging a media event whereby a pile of Korans will purposely be burnt -- as we're reading about the media today -- is wrong. It is imprudent, childish, and seems to be a sin against the 5th commandment (inciting others to anger).

It serves no purpose other than to tick people off. All it does is incite Muslims to anger, so what purpose is served? Are Muslims brought to the true Faith?

It's not false ecuмenism to avoid vainly ticking people off. The saints didn't act this way. They told the truth. They condemned error with no minced words. They reluctantly told leaders the truth that they were going to hell, or were in danger of hell. They condemned things that were evil as being evil.

But they didn't do media stunts like this -- no good can come of it. You don't convert Muslims by urinating on a copy of their holy book -- or burning it.

That's about the OPPOSITE of the best way to go about converting a pagan.

I would also like to point out that this yokel (preacher), who no one had heard of last month, is now world-famous, being propelled to fame by the likes of Bill & Hillary Clinton and others. What's the agenda here, I ask?

Matthew

The agenda here in the burning of the Koran, and the hype about building a mosque near the world trade center is to inflame the American people against the Moslems, so that the powers that be will be able to more easily go to war with Iran. Maybe another "fαℓѕє fℓαg "terrorist attack will come of this.

Lybus · « **Reply #6 on:** September 08, 2010, 10:24:42 PM »

believe it or not, I live in the city where this koran burning will take place.

I won't be there on Saturday though, since my parents are afraid there might be a Muslim attack or something. Like the Gator stadium will somehow explode :rolleyes:

TKGS · « **Reply #7 on:** September 09, 2010, 07:01:59 AM »

I think the "pastor" who set this Koran burning thing doesn't really understand what "book burning" is all about and what its purpose is supposed to be.

Burning evil books is not wrong. In fact, it can be downright holy. But the purpose of doing so is to get rid of the evil books you already have. How many in this fellow's "church" are pulling their old Korans off their bookshelves to burn? Probably zero. In the whole state where this will take place, there may be a handful of people who have converted from Islam to some brand of Christianity who have a Koran in their possession and need to destroy it.

What is the guy doing? His group will obviously have to go out and buy a large number of Korans in order to burn them. He's unjustly enriching publishers and booksellers who are producing and distributing these evil books--thus encouraging them to produce and market even more of them--in order to burn them.

Unless his congregation is made up of mostly Muslim converts, he's doing something very stupid.

Belloc · « **Reply #8 on:** September 09, 2010, 07:24:08 AM »

Quote from: Emerentiana

Quote from: Matthew
Burning a pile of Korans is about as wrong as burning a pile of heretical works that used to be on the Index of Forbidden Books -- which isn't very wrong!

THAT HAVING BEEN SAID...

Arranging a media event whereby a pile of Korans will purposely be burnt -- as we're reading about the media today -- is wrong. It is imprudent, childish, and seems to be a sin against the 5th commandment (inciting others to anger).

It serves no purpose other than to tick people off. All it does is incite Muslims to anger, so what purpose is served? Are Muslims brought to the true Faith?

It's not false ecuмenism to avoid vainly ticking people off. The saints didn't act this way. They told the truth. They condemned error with no minced words. They reluctantly told leaders the truth that they were going to hell, or were in danger of hell. They condemned things that were evil as being evil.

But they didn't do media stunts like this -- no good can come of it. You don't convert Muslims by urinating on a copy of their holy book -- or burning it.

That's about the OPPOSITE of the best way to go about converting a pagan.

I would also like to point out that this yokel (preacher), who no one had heard of last month, is now world-famous, being propelled to fame by the likes of Bill & Hillary Clinton and others. What's the agenda here, I ask?

Matthew

The agenda here in the burning of the Koran, and the hype about building a mosque near the world trade center is to inflame the American people against the Moslems, so that the powers that be will be able to more easily go to war with Iran. Maybe another "fαℓѕє fℓαg "terrorist attack will come of this.

Likely so, this idiot evangelical is a dupe for fαℓѕє fℓαgging......it is rather pointless and stupid and appears he likes the attention-doing this will not bring converts to Christ at all, very much the opposite.....

Belloc · « **Reply #9 on:** September 09, 2010, 07:27:45 AM »

Quote from: DMorgan

I agree with Myrna. While I do believe this act will inflame our enemies, I do not buy into all the hand wringing that we are seeing in the MSM and from all of the pundits. Last time I checked it is still illegal to posses a Bible in most Moslem countries, including the ones we consider as "allies" in the war on terrorism. The simple fact is islam is bent on world conquest and the pc method will not placate them. Just look to Europe's problems to see how that has worked.

you've been listening to Fox I see and also, Limbaugh perhaps?

why the hand wrining about not allowed to have a Bible in moslem nations? do you not beleive in the state religion? It was illegal to have a тαℓмυd in France at one time too....

our enemies? whom would that be? the ones we propped up for yrs and provided weapons to, like Hussein?

Islam is bent on world conquest, too bad we Catholics are not for Christ, no? and certainly not led by Obama, Bush, Beck,et all.....

as the Jєωs control most media, TV, radio, Hollywood, finance, they scare the hell out of me more than some Moslem in a cave.......who does not have nukes like Israel....the Jєωs control Limbaugh and Fox too, ya know.....

Belloc · « **Reply #10 on:** September 09, 2010, 07:30:55 AM »

Quote from: CyberSaint

I agree that we are called to behave in a manner that does not seek to tempt people toward anger. We should look out for our neighbor's wellbeing.

On the other hand, burning the Koran treats that handbook of heresy more decently than I believe it deserves.

Plus, like was stated earlier, we never hear any outcries in the media or government against blasphemous and sacrilegious acts against our Lord Jesus, His Mother, the Saints, and His Church.

That inconsistency ticks me off!

we live in a nonCatholic-hence godless, nation and one founded in deistic/Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, so.....not surprised we ahve devolved, rather quickly, tl where we are today in regards to Christ.....as to Islam, the "event" looming before us serves no purpose.....none, acheives nothing but bitterness and anger-remember,the world elites have told Muslims we are the Crusaderse,tc....though that is :roll-laugh1: really, that is their vision of us.

Cristian · « **Reply #11 on:** September 09, 2010, 07:40:26 AM »

Quote from: CyberSaint

Plus, like was stated earlier, we never hear any outcries in the media or government against blasphemous and sacrilegious acts against our Lord Jesus, His Mother, the Saints, and His Church.

That inconsistency ticks me off!

Well, that`s a good sign my friend. That is not inconsistency. If they act differently with us that`s because they KNOW Catholicism is different. Do you really hope the world (that is, the Civitas Hominis of St. Augustine) will say something defending us?

As De Maitre said... "The enemies of the Catholic Church fight in vain against her, but they know very well where to beat. There is nothing as infallible as impiety"

Cristian

Cristian · « **Reply #12 on:** September 09, 2010, 07:41:33 AM »

Quote from: Emerentiana

The agenda here in the burning of the Koran, and the hype about building a mosque near the world trade center is to inflame the American people against the Moslems, so that the powers that be will be able to more easily go to war with Iran. Maybe another "fαℓѕє fℓαg "terrorist attack will come of this.

I`m afraid of that too...

Belloc · « **Reply #13 on:** September 09, 2010, 07:44:04 AM »

Quote from: Cristian

Quote from: CyberSaint

Plus, like was stated earlier, we never hear any outcries in the media or government against blasphemous and sacrilegious acts against our Lord Jesus, His Mother, the Saints, and His Church.

That inconsistency ticks me off!

Well, that`s a good sign my friend. That is not inconsistency. If they act differently with us that`s because they KNOW Catholicism is different. Do you really hope the world (that is, the Civitas Hominis of St. Augustine) will say something defending us?

As De Maitre said... "The enemies of the Catholic Church fight in vain against her, but they know very well where to beat. There is nothing as infallible as impiety"

Cristian

2 choices then-work for a Catholic conversion of the USA and a Catholic state or
accept the freemasonic/deistic nation we have and continue to complain about it, but take no action-complaining is far easier and less committed...

Cristian · « **Reply #14 on:** September 09, 2010, 08:06:28 AM »

Quote from: Belloc

Quote from: Cristian
Quote from: CyberSaint

Plus, like was stated earlier, we never hear any outcries in the media or government against blasphemous and sacrilegious acts against our Lord Jesus, His Mother, the Saints, and His Church.

That inconsistency ticks me off!

Well, that`s a good sign my friend. That is not inconsistency. If they act differently with us that`s because they KNOW Catholicism is different. Do you really hope the world (that is, the Civitas Hominis of St. Augustine) will say something defending us?

As De Maitre said... "The enemies of the Catholic Church fight in vain against her, but they know very well where to beat. There is nothing as infallible as impiety"

Cristian

2 choices then-work for a Catholic conversion of the USA and a Catholic state or
accept the freemasonic/deistic nation we have and continue to complain about it, but take no action-complaining is far easier and less committed...

Well I was just pointing out the fact that our enemies are doing their job attacking the Catholic Church, they must do it.

Well first of all I work for my santification and I try to do as much good as I can.

Please enlighten us how we can convert America or any other country... ahh btw these times are but of apostasy in case you didn`t notice yet. The "Tempora Nationum" (times of the gentiles) are over sir!

Cristian