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Is the new rite of ordination/consecration valid?

Yes (valid)
4 (14.3%)
No (invalid)
2 (7.1%)
Doubtful
22 (78.6%)

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Offline CatholicInAmerica

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New rites poll
« on: March 24, 2019, 02:37:47 PM »
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  • I personally say doubtful.
    Jorge Bergoglio isn’t even a real priest.

    Offline forlorn

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    Re: New rites poll
    « Reply #1 on: March 24, 2019, 04:39:14 PM »
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  • I'd go with doubtful, since I'm not together all too sure. I'm definitely not in the Dimond camp that'd suggest Catholics who were unaware of the Crisis brewing and received Confession, Last Rites, etc. from a Novus Ordo Priest were damned to Hell just because they didn't have perfect knowledge of deeply complex issues that not even the most well-educated clergymen and theologians can agree on. While these days the heresy in the Church may seem blatant, for decades after Vatican 2 a Catholic could go to Mass every Sunday blissfully unaware that anything was wrong. Most Catholics never even heard of Archbishop Lefebvre. 


    Offline ihsv

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    Re: New rites poll
    « Reply #2 on: March 24, 2019, 05:17:22 PM »
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  • I don't have the competence or authority to say they're invalid.  Doubtful?  Yes.  Invalid?  I'll let the Church decide.
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    Re: New rites poll
    « Reply #3 on: March 24, 2019, 05:22:09 PM »
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  • Invalid!  Chapter 12 of Daniel states the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass will end (continual Precious Blood).  Martin Luther gave it a good head start to where we are now.  All of those who say the invalid, are publicly heretical.

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    Re: New rites poll
    « Reply #4 on: March 25, 2019, 02:24:18 AM »
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  • I say “no”because it was watered down.  Look at the fruits.  That is what Vatican II did.  Vatican II watered down everything and created many poorly formed Priests, Religious and laity ( like myself).  It is the “counter church”that Archbishop Fulton had spoken of.    Many Priests, religious and laity are in state of mortal sin because they refuse to “go and sin no more” as Jesus advised many sinners.  The majority of “Catholics” support murder of babies and all religions are equal.  Most “Catholics” support sodomy.  On the Feast of the Annunciation, it was “Catholics” who has pushed for assisted suicide.  

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