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July 17 Two Revolutions
« on: July 17, 2014, 04:25:14 PM »
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  • [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/cYq614xqnlI[/youtube]

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/Rl7VnQeu8OQ[/youtube]


    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42


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    « Reply #1 on: July 17, 2014, 07:22:30 PM »
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    What does the first video have to do with July 17th?  


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    July 17 Two Revolutions
    « Reply #2 on: July 17, 2014, 09:41:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
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    The Carmelites of Compiegne and the Romanovs were executed on that day.  It is also the day that Charles II was crowned in the Cathedral at Reims.
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42

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    « Reply #3 on: July 18, 2014, 06:51:54 AM »
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  • And . . . it is my birthday.   :king:

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    « Reply #4 on: July 19, 2014, 09:38:13 PM »
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  • [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/OFbguFfp1So[/youtube]

    Poulenc's opera about the martyred Carmelites of Compiegne has been performed in almost every language.  If I find an English version on youtube I will post it.
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42


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    July 17 Two Revolutions
    « Reply #5 on: July 26, 2014, 09:50:02 AM »
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  • Quote from: magdalena
    [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/embed/OFbguFfp1So[/youtube]

    Poulenc's opera about the martyred Carmelites of Compiegne has been performed in almost every language.  If I find an English version on youtube I will post it.




    new youtube of same opera

    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42

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    « Reply #6 on: July 17, 2015, 08:29:29 PM »
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  • Worth bringing back IMO. The youtube on the Romanovs can only be viewed by tapping the arrow.  It is no longer available on YouTube. I will post another one as a substitute if the first one fails to work.
    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42

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    « Reply #7 on: July 19, 2015, 01:46:05 AM »
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  • For more information on the Blessed martyrs of Compeigne;

     The Blessed Martyrs of Compiegne
    On July 17, 1794, sixteen Carmelites caught up in the French Revolution were guillotined at the Place du Trône Renversé (now called Place de la Nation), in Paris.

    When the revolution started in 1789, a group of twenty-one discalced Carmelites lived in a monastery in Compiegne France, founded in 1641. The monastery was ordered closed in 1790 by the Revolutionary government, and the nuns were disbanded. Sixteen of the nuns were accused of living in a religious community in 1794. They were arrested on June 22 and imprisoned in a Visitation convent in Compiegne There they openly resumed their religious life.

    For a full twenty months before their execution, the sisters came together in an act of consecration “whereby each member of the community would join with the others in offering herself daily to God, soul and body in h0Ɩ0cαųst to restore peace to France and to her Church.”

    The nuns were not just mere victims of the Revolution overcome by circuмstances. Each contemplated her martyrdom; each understood her offering. Each sought that “greater love” of giving herself for her fellow man in imitation of the Divine Lamb Who redeemed humanity.

    On July 12, 1794, the Carmelites were taken to Paris and five days later were sentenced to death. Before their execution they knelt and chanted the "Veni Creator", as at a profession, after which they all renewed aloud their baptismal and religious vows. They went to the guillotine singing the Salve Regina. They were beatified in 1906 by Pope St. Pius X.

    The Carmelites were: Marie Claude Brard; Madeleine Brideau, the subprior; Maire Croissy, grandniece of Colbert Marie Dufour; Marie Hanisset; Marie Meunier, a novice; Rose de Neufville Annette Pebras; Anne Piedcourt: Madeleine Lidoine, the prioress; Angelique Roussel; Catherine Soiron and Therese Soiron, both extern sisters, natives of Compiegne and blood sisters: Anne Mary Thouret; Marie Trezelle; and Eliza beth Verolot. The martyrdom of the nuns was immortalized by the composer Francois Poulenc in his famous opera Dialogues des Carmelites.

    http://www.catholicculture.org/culture/liturgicalyear/calendar/day.cfm?date=2015-07-17


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    « Reply #8 on: July 19, 2015, 07:31:40 PM »
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  • The Carmelites of Compiègne – July 17

    Prof. Plinio Corrêa de Oliveira

    Biographical selection:

    The martyrs of Compiegne mounting the scaffold

    The 16 Carmelite Sisters of Compiegne
    mounting the scaffold to be guillotined

    On July 17, 1794, the sixteen Carmelite nuns of Compiègne were guillotined in Paris, convicted of crimes against the state by the tribunal of the French Revolution. On this day they were born to eternal life.

    Mother Henriette de Jesus, renowned for her great beauty and strong personality, stood up to represent the other Carmelite sisters before the revolutionary tribunal and was remarkable for her heroic resolution. Since the prosecutor accused the Carmelites of being fanatics and counter-revolutionaries, she asked him to explain the meaning of those words. The irritated judge vomited a torrent of offenses against her, and then said: “It is your attachment to your Religion and the King.”

    Hearing these words, she replied, “I thank you for the explanation.” Then, addressing her companion Carmelites, she said: “My dear Mother and my Sisters, we must rejoice and give thanks to God for we die for our Religion, our Faith, and for being members of the Holy Roman Catholic Church.”

    She was the last one before the Prioress to mount the scaffold to die. To the end, she encouraged her Sisters to persevere. When a charitable person offered a glass of water to one of the Sisters, Mother Henriette told her: “In Heaven, my Sister, in Heaven we will soon have water aplenty to drink.”

    Comments of Prof. Plinio:

    These Sisters knew that they were being put to death for their fidelity to the Catholic Church and the King, but they wanted the prosecutor to admit it out loud, because this would be a public witness of their martyrdom and an encouragement for them in face of the dangers of apostasy. This is why Mother Henriette was charged with asking that question.

    martyrs of Compiegne being put on a cart for execution

    The Carmelite Sisters loaded on the wagon
    on the way to the guillotine

    When the answer came, she was happy and transmitted it to her Mother and Sisters in religion. All of them shared that joy and went forward to die. Mother Henriette, who was very resolute, offered assistance to each of them until the end. Only the Prioress, Mother Teresa of St. Augustine, died after her, because she was the superior, and the Captain must always be the last one to leave the sinking ship.

    The episode with the glass of water is beautiful. Certainly there were some Carmelites who were nervous facing the trauma of such a violent death. To drink a glass of water could give them some relief. When Mother Henriette saw that one Carmelite Sister was inclined to accept the offer, she was probably thinking: “This small sacrifice can be yet another pearl for her crown in Heaven.” So, she advised her to not take it, and gave this magnificent reason: “My Sister, in Heaven soon we will have water aplenty to drink.”

    She was clearly referring to Our Lord, Who is the source of all living waters, to the face-to-face contemplation of God that gives eternal happiness. The thirsty Sister understood that when she would receive her crown of martyrdom, it would have an additional star because she made that sacrifice.

    martyrs of Compiegne preparing to mount the scaffold

    Mother Henriette faced death bravely
    and encouraged the others

    You can contrast Mother Henriette de Jesus with an imaginary personage in a popular novel, The Dialogue of the Carmelites by George Bernanos. The character was called Blanche de la Force and was presented as a weak and timid Carmelite Sister. She is an imaginary personage, but it is worthwhile considering her, because she represents a common character type.

    In his novel, Bernanos presented her as a Sister who had panicked when the other Sisters were taken by the revolutionary soldiers and sentenced, and for this reason had apostatized from the Order. She was no longer living inside the Carmelite community, but she went to see the execution of her former companions who would suffer martyrdom that day. The Sisters were chanting the Veni Creator in chorus and, one by one, they walked up the steps to the scaffold to be guillotined. When she saw this, she was moved by a grace, stepped out of the mob and, singing, joined the cortege to be executed along with them.

    The two attitudes of both religious – Mother Henriette and Sister Blanche – express well the different paths of Divine Providence for different souls - the different marvels God works with His chosen ones. For some He chooses the glory of repentance – this is one of the glories attributed to the Apostles who fled during His Passion. For others He gives the strength that he gave to Mother Henriette of Jesus, that is, to view death from a distance and face it bravely, walking toward it joyfully. This was what He did with Mother Henriette, who helped all the others face their martyrdoms. These are two different paths God chooses to lead and direct souls.

    Seeing these two contrasting paths, you can admire the infinite beauty of God in the unity and variety of His ways. This is why the Saints are different from one another and why there are different schools of spirituality in the Catholic Church. It serves to show the beauty and richness of Holy Mother Church, a reflection of the beauty of the Heavenly Jerusalem.


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    But one thing is necessary. Mary hath chosen the best part, which shall not be taken away from her.
    Luke 10:42