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Offline Santo Subito

John Vennari on the Doctrinal Preamble
« Reply #50 on: September 25, 2011, 04:49:13 PM »
FLUB
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Offline PartyIsOver221

John Vennari on the Doctrinal Preamble
« Reply #51 on: September 25, 2011, 06:28:20 PM »
Quote from: Caminus
P.I.O., why did Fr. Cekada write such a long and detailed essay attempting to demonstrate the invalidity of the ordination rite when he could have easily proved it by a three sentence syllogism?  Does that make sense to you?  Neither you, nor Gregory, understand that which you speak about.  



What does that matter?

Why did God allow 27 books to be in the New Testament for the end result of humans knowing what was needed for salvation? Couldn't He just have allowed 3 sentences saying Jesus is God, whole in the Trinity and if you are in His Church with baptism and a state of grace, you will attain Heaven.

A bunch of extra FLUB in those extra words of the New Testament, I know .....
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Offline Gregory I

John Vennari on the Doctrinal Preamble
« Reply #52 on: September 25, 2011, 09:00:01 PM »
Quote from: Caminus
P.I.O., why did Fr. Cekada write such a long and detailed essay attempting to demonstrate the invalidity of the ordination rite when he could have easily proved it by a three sentence syllogism?  Does that make sense to you?  Neither you, nor Gregory, understand that which you speak about.  


Then explain to me, why am I WRONG?

Your disdain is neither the magisterium, nor is it proof. It is just the sounding of a gong, and the clanging of a cymbal, as are the words of all who presume and have not charity.

Prove me wrong.
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Offline Gregory I

John Vennari on the Doctrinal Preamble
« Reply #53 on: September 25, 2011, 10:05:32 PM »
And SANTO you miss the point JPII is not a heretic because he utilized the extraordinary magisterium to promote heresy, he is a HERETIC because in his "magisterial" writings he REVEALS in a public, manifest and notorious fashion his heretical understanding of various issues of the faith.

His promulgation of the heresy for others to believe is irrelevant: What matters is the manifest and public nature of the heresies he espoused.

THAT is what makes him a heretic.
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Offline Stephen Francis

John Vennari on the Doctrinal Preamble
« Reply #54 on: September 25, 2011, 10:42:43 PM »
G-1, never mind that Wojtyla prayed with and for pagans. He opened Church property, including consecrated chapels, for the use of these heretics in their false religions.

http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/new_JP2_photos.php

The funniest thing I have read in a VERY long time, however, had to be that quote from Ratzinger about how the Vat-2 types embrace the entirety of tradition.

HA!

So, that little "oopsie" in Quo Primum, you know, the one about the Tridentine Mass being irreplaceable and VALID FOR ALL TIME AND NEVER TO BE ABROGATED... does Joseph Ratzinger embrace THAT, too? I hardly think so.

Fellay is going to play whatever political games he needs to in order to stay afloat. The only thing he should be having 'dialog' with Ratzinger about is Ratzinger's confession of the heresies he has promoted, the crimes he guilty of and the multitude of other offenses he is party to because of his status in the NO.

Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.
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