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Offline Ladislaus

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John Paul II -- Scourge of Demons
« on: June 08, 2015, 11:26:41 AM »
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  • So much for the credibility of one Father Amorth.  I was castigated for questioning him on the Fatima thread (predicting an October 2015 chastisement).  Evidently he also enjoys conversing with the demons instead of just exorcizing them.

    http://www.churchpop.com/2015/06/07/st-john-paul-ii-romes-chief-exorcist/

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    The chief exorcist of Rome is seeing a rising number of young people coming under the influence of evil, but he has found in recent years that St. John Paul II is a powerful intercessor in the battle for souls.
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    “I have asked the demon more than once, ‘Why are you so scared of John Paul II and I have had two different responses, both interesting. One, ‘because he disrupted my plans.’ And, I think that he is referring to the fall of communism in Russia and Eastern Europe. The collapse of communism.”

    “Another response that he gave me, ‘because he pulled so many young people from my hands.’ There are so many young people who, thanks to John Paul II, were converted. Perhaps some were already Christian but not practicing, but then with John Paul II they came back to the practice. ‘He pulled so many young people out of my hands.’”




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    John Paul II -- Scourge of Demons
    « Reply #1 on: June 08, 2015, 11:32:05 AM »
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  • He also famously called Medjugorje a "fortress against Satan." No word on whether or not he believes the Castro district in San Francisco is a "fortress against Sodomy," but no one should be surprised if he does.

    Needless to say, he should be taken a Malachi Martin-sized grain of salt.


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    John Paul II -- Scourge of Demons
    « Reply #2 on: June 08, 2015, 04:56:18 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    So much for the credibility of one Father Amorth.  I was castigated for questioning him on the Fatima thread (predicting an October 2015 chastisement).  Evidently he also enjoys conversing with the demons instead of just exorcizing them.

    http://www.churchpop.com/2015/06/07/st-john-paul-ii-romes-chief-exorcist/

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    The chief exorcist of Rome is seeing a rising number of young people coming under the influence of evil, but he has found in recent years that St. John Paul II is a powerful intercessor in the battle for souls.
    ...
    “I have asked the demon more than once, ‘Why are you so scared of John Paul II and I have had two different responses, both interesting. One, ‘because he disrupted my plans.’ And, I think that he is referring to the fall of communism in Russia and Eastern Europe. The collapse of communism.”

    “Another response that he gave me, ‘because he pulled so many young people from my hands.’ There are so many young people who, thanks to John Paul II, were converted. Perhaps some were already Christian but not practicing, but then with John Paul II they came back to the practice. ‘He pulled so many young people out of my hands.’”




    Demons lie.  They would mix truth with lies.  

    As for the demon saying that JPII brought souls to the faith, well, I ask which faith?  The one that says that other churches and non-Christian religions have the means of salvation?  

    A critic once said that St. Louis de Montfort really came close to crossing a line in declaring Our Lady to be a divinity unto herself (and this comment got him banned from a place as committed to indifferentism as Catholic Answers) well, I want to paraphrase the mocker who besmirched St Louis de Montfort, and, by extension, Our Lady.  I want to paraphrase his comment and say that JPII came awfully close to endorsing indifferentism.    


    Offline ClarkSmith

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    « Reply #3 on: June 09, 2015, 12:59:56 AM »
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  • Last year,  a priest    admitted on TV that the old rite is more effective.  I wish I could find the interview. The interview itself was not very good. The news  anchors interviewing him were highly skeptical and kept asking stupid questions.   The interesting part of the interview was  that brief admission.

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    « Reply #4 on: June 09, 2015, 12:46:48 PM »
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  • JPII built temples for false gods.  This is my conclusion of the 2 Assisi Events.
    And his world days of peace in which he invited false religion to participate.
    In his Christmas message for 12/25/1978, he said that Christmas is the Feast of
    Man. Christmas is the Feast of the Birthday of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    In his letters, he put man on the same level as Jesus Christ and God.
    In other letters he referred himself and other men as Gods.
    What this man got away with, shows how far Catholics departed from the
    Faith. When practically all cannot recognized an outrageous heretic.
    The late and great theologian to Pope Pius XII, Cardinal Ciappi said when asked,
    About the Third secret of our Lady of Fatima, that the great apostasy will begin
    at the top.


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    « Reply #5 on: June 09, 2015, 12:51:47 PM »
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  • From a purely secular perspective, the pontificate of John Paul II was an absolute disaster.  The number of priests shrunk, the number of parishioners shrunk, Cardinals like Mahoney and Shoenberg and Kaspar were appointed and all those charges of sex abuse came out.  

    In addition to the secular side, John Paul II kissed a Koran, said he respected other religions, sat in a ѕуηαgσgυє while the Jєωs prayed for the arrival of the real Messiah...  The list goes on.


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    « Reply #6 on: June 09, 2015, 01:18:52 PM »
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  • Quote from: Capt McQuigg
    From a purely secular perspective, the pontificate of John Paul II was an absolute disaster.  The number of priests shrunk, the number of parishioners shrunk, Cardinals like Mahoney and Shoenberg and Kaspar were appointed and all those charges of sex abuse came out.  

    In addition to the secular side, John Paul II kissed a Koran, said he respected other religions, sat in a ѕуηαgσgυє while the Jєωs prayed for the arrival of the real Messiah...  The list goes on.



    Model saint for the Novus Ordo, wouldn't you say?
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #7 on: June 09, 2015, 03:36:33 PM »
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  • Compare that to the Swiss Exorcisms, which denounced John Paul II as a destroyer of the Church and Medjugorje as a false apparition.
    "There's a mix of passion and shortsightedness in me, even when I'm positive that I'm doing my very best to see things for what they are, that warns me that I'll never know for sure. Undoubtedly I must follow the truth I can see, I have no choice and I must live on; but that is for me only, not to impose on others." - Fr. Leonardo Castellani


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    « Reply #8 on: June 09, 2015, 04:48:49 PM »
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  • A man who appoints devils as bishops is the enemy of the devils in the afterlife? How does that make sense?

    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-

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    « Reply #9 on: June 09, 2015, 08:42:17 PM »
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  • "As the head of the Church, I cannot answer you otherwise: The Jєωs have not recognized Our Lord; therefore we cannot recognize the Jєωιѕн people." -Pope St. Pius X

    "No Jєω adores God! Who say so?  The Son of God say so."

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    « Reply #10 on: June 09, 2015, 11:27:50 PM »
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  • This thread couldn't be more perfect bait for andysloan.

    Steel yourselves for an onslaught of treacly, irrational emotionalism; irrelevant quotations from Scripture; mindlessly reverential references to Malachi Martin; and sanctimonious accusations of "trad pharisee judgmentalism" couched in language that flouts any distinction between objective and subjective judgments.


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    « Reply #11 on: June 10, 2015, 12:09:06 AM »
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  • Quote from: BTNYC
    This thread couldn't be more perfect bait for andysloan.

    Steel yourselves for an onslaught of treacly, irrational emotionalism; irrelevant quotations from Scripture; mindlessly reverential references to Malachi Martin; and sanctimonious accusations of "trad pharisee judgmentalism" couched in language that flouts any distinction between objective and subjective judgments.


    Yes, I'm sure the andybot is being fired up as we speak.
    "This principle is most certain: The non-Christian cannot in any way be Pope. The reason for this is that he cannot be head of what he is not a member. Now, he who is not a Christian is not a member of the Church, and a manifest heretic is not a Christian, as is clearly taught by St. Cyprian, St. Athanasius, St. Augustine, St. Jerome, and others. Therefore, the manifest heretic cannot be Pope." -- St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #12 on: June 13, 2015, 03:25:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: reconquest
    Compare that to the Swiss Exorcisms, which denounced John Paul II as a destroyer of the Church and Medjugorje as a false apparition.


    speaking of that, do you really want to defend it ?
    is this legitimate: ?
    http://www.tldm.org/News4/WarningsFromBeyond.1of3.htm

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    « Reply #13 on: June 14, 2015, 04:06:32 PM »
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    Compare that to the Swiss Exorcisms, which denounced John Paul II as a destroyer of the Church and Medjugorje as a false apparition.


    speaking of that, do you really want to defend it ?
    is this legitimate: ?
    http://www.tldm.org/News4/WarningsFromBeyond.1of3.htm


    No.

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    « Reply #14 on: June 18, 2015, 04:07:49 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
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    Compare that to the Swiss Exorcisms, which denounced John Paul II as a destroyer of the Church and Medjugorje as a false apparition.


    speaking of that, do you really want to defend it ?
    is this legitimate: ?
    http://www.tldm.org/News4/WarningsFromBeyond.1of3.htm


    No.


    thanks, that's right, Ladislaus, it is not legitimate.