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Offline Antony

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« on: August 04, 2012, 12:52:35 AM »
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  • One of the most depressing things on the face of the planet is job hunting.  When I go on websites where I can apply for jobs, I read all the qualifications you are supposed to have (the list goes on and on) and then you read what the salary is, and its like 10 bucks and hour.  Who do these slave drivers think they are.  I use to attend a Byzantine liturgy (liturgy of St. John Chrysostom) and the priest one day gave a sermon on how the american workplace is going the way of slavery.  According to him, only people who are very intelligent can get good jobs to support their families.  I agree with him. I see others getting rich around me, with no care of those who suffer. Many of our good paying jobs have been sent over seas.  The rich get richer and the poor are getting to the point of sustenance wages.  Yet, right now, at least we are not starving, like the poor in other countries.


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    « Reply #1 on: August 04, 2012, 12:59:26 AM »
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  • When my husband needed a job, we made a total consecration to OUr Lady.  It is a book of prayers and rosary that last 30 days. We did this and my husband had a job.  He went from aircraft mechanic to pharmacy tech and taught on the job(and that was 20 years ago) but Our lady came through! At the end of the consecration, he had the job!  And I will ask my great-great Uncle Fr. Rudolph Stoltz to pray for you!  He was a priest of the precious Blood society.  He has come through for me a few times!


    Offline MaterDominici

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    « Reply #2 on: August 04, 2012, 01:39:22 AM »
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  • My experience (from quite some time ago) was that the websites specializing in job listings offer the most depressing ones to read.

    When you've had a look at what such websites have to offer in your area, move on to more traditional options. Try your local paper, but don't stop there. Think of a few places around you where you might be a good fit and call to see if they have openings. If they're big enough, openings will be listed on their own website before they pay money to list it elsewhere.

    If your skills match the needs of a very small business, just call and ask as they'll likely "need" help for awhile before the boss gets around to actually taking out an ad and doing interviews. You never know when you'll hit a sweet spot.
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    « Reply #3 on: August 04, 2012, 01:46:29 AM »
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  • I read an article on Fox News tonight that tradesmen are coming back in demand.  Electricians, welders, oil and gas workers, etc, if you are not the college type and civil, bio and enviro engineering if you have the degree and that skill set.
    For it is written: I will strike the shepherd, and the sheep of the flock shall be dispersed. Matthew 26:31

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    « Reply #4 on: August 29, 2012, 04:46:57 AM »
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  • Maybe you need to change your attitude. I know people here that would love to get a job that pays $10 an hour.  


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    « Reply #5 on: August 29, 2012, 08:01:29 AM »
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  • The real rate of inflation makes today's $10 dollars for an hour's labor a miserable wage in the United States.

    In particular anyone paying rent, utilities and insurance will be lucky to get by on $10 an hour.

    I don't know where the "here" is you're describing, but nobody in the US feels particularly lucky to get a $10 dollar an hour job except for old ladies doing something they would likely do for $5 an hour - old ladies who don't actually need the money.

    Should people consider themselves "lucky" to barely get by?

    This is a very self-righteous and condescending tone to take, but sadly very typical  among those who sees every indication of declining economic opportunity as a chance to play holier-richer-than-thou.

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    « Reply #6 on: August 29, 2012, 08:09:57 AM »
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    Maybe you need to change your attitude. I know people here that would love to get a job that pays $10 an hour.  


    if you make less then $10 or nothing at all, then sure, $10 sounds great-the real question is how many hours at that rate? also, can you live on that? single, likely more then marreid and definately, $10 not going far for a family........$10 is buying less and less and again, its is a statistical fact that wages, frozen since 1973, started going down by late 90's, while cost of living, inflation going up.....the line are going in opposites.......

    Many companies now might give you $10, but not the full 40 hrs and deifinately, not any OT....few and far between....
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    « Reply #7 on: August 29, 2012, 08:11:55 AM »
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    My experience (from quite some time ago) was that the websites specializing in job listings offer the most depressing ones to read.

    When you've had a look at what such websites have to offer in your area, move on to more traditional options. Try your local paper, but don't stop there. Think of a few places around you where you might be a good fit and call to see if they have openings. If they're big enough, openings will be listed on their own website before they pay money to list it elsewhere.

    If your skills match the needs of a very small business, just call and ask as they'll likely "need" help for awhile before the boss gets around to actually taking out an ad and doing interviews. You never know when you'll hit a sweet spot.


    I used to get job listings from Monster......that is a real waste of time, most are either low skilled or not remotely in my field of training/ed......some were scientist positions-now, how does that relate to a guy with a BS in Criminal Justice and a background in that and retail??????? something about doing testing, but again, geared toward science ed/backgrounds.......
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    « Reply #8 on: August 29, 2012, 08:13:52 AM »
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    I read an article on Fox News tonight that tradesmen are coming back in demand.  Electricians, welders, oil and gas workers, etc, if you are not the college type and civil, bio and enviro engineering if you have the degree and that skill set.


    Trades are god nad can make decent money, plus many are on-job and 2 year tech school, quicker and cheaper then 4-8 yrs college.....my nephew got laid off and no prospects after getting a 4 yr degree, went back and 2 yrs later, has a RN and a job in hospital......good as wife was only real wage earner and a baby on the way in March.....

    can go anywhere in USA, Canada and elsewhere w/nursing, albeit, some fees, etc and language.....
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    « Reply #9 on: August 29, 2012, 08:14:31 AM »
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    Maybe you need to change your attitude. I know people here that would love to get a job that pays $10 an hour.  


    who has to change an attitude? are they to settle?
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    « Reply #10 on: August 29, 2012, 01:24:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: Antony
    One of the most depressing things on the face of the planet is job hunting.  When I go on websites where I can apply for jobs, I read all the qualifications you are supposed to have (the list goes on and on) and then you read what the salary is, and its like 10 bucks and hour.  Who do these slave drivers think they are.


    How old are you?
    Do you have to support anyone?
    Where do you live? (rented apt, with parents, mortgaged home)
    What are your skills?

    Questions to ask those that give you advise:

    How old are you.
    Do you have to support anyone?
    Where do you live? (rented apt, with parents, mortgaged home)
    What are your skills?


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    I use to attend a Byzantine liturgy (liturgy of St. John Chrysostom) and the priest one day gave a sermon on how the american workplace is going the way of slavery.  According to him, only people who are very intelligent can get good jobs to support their families.


    What does a priest know about business? He's a priest. It's like asking an actor about politics.


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    I see others getting rich around me, with no care of those who suffer.

    How are you suffering? How can they care for others, what do you suggest?


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    Many of our good paying jobs have been sent over seas.


    Good paying and bad paying and everything in between has been sent overseas.

     
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    The rich get richer and the poor are getting to the point of sustenance wages.  Yet, right now, at least we are not starving, like the poor in other countries.


    If the rich around you get richer, they will provide work for you when they buy all the toys, and services they need, so it's not so bad as you think. The middle class in America is dwingly at a rapid pace, that is a fact. All you can you is work smarter and harder to get  ahead. The days of working at a job that anyone can learn in one week, and getting paid $25+ an hour, are long gone. That's a fact. And the guys who did that work, and went home and had 2 six-packs, and drove their  cadillac to work next day hungover, and did that for 30 years and retired, those days are long gone. They were living in a dream world in the USA. Now, it is reality time. Today, if one does not hussle, they'll be trampled over by someone who does.


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    « Reply #11 on: August 29, 2012, 01:31:51 PM »
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    Maybe you need to change your attitude. I know people here that would love to get a job that pays $10 an hour.  


    who has to change an attitude? are they to settle?


    Depends on the present circuмstances.   Settling may just be a short stop fix.

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    « Reply #12 on: August 29, 2012, 01:37:43 PM »
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  • the priest is looking at the whole, big picture and what he sees daily as his role as spiritual father and what he hears......he is not a mole, in some cave in the mountains.....

    your analogy with the actor-politician and priest-business is highly incorrect........

    that said, conservatives worship Reagan, he as both, none of them are saying about their man "hey, what does he know about politics"

    Priests shold be familiar with Rerum Novarum and other encyclicals.....

    and again, it does not take much to make connections of wage slavery and buisness.........

    you would have heard that a lot this last weekend conference.....from those in and out of academia, buisness,politics,etc.....

    Clint, your last coment was very telling and I think you have exposed yourself as Nadiaportante or whatever!!!!!!!  :dancing-banana: :ready-to-eat:
    someone the other day accused you of being the same person, under 2 different accounts-Clint and Nadia.........

    your last paragraph sounds almost to the tee like him in the comments in the thread about welfare were Nadia and I/Clare/others had a big brew-ha-ha.....you equate people struggling to them being lazy and not hussling enough.....same thoughts as Nadia!!!!

    Congrads, man, for exposing yourself, Nadia/Clint.....

    (set, match)
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    « Reply #13 on: August 29, 2012, 01:38:23 PM »
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    Maybe you need to change your attitude. I know people here that would love to get a job that pays $10 an hour.  


    who has to change an attitude? are they to settle?


    Depends on the present circuмstances.   Settling may just be a short stop fix.


    true, it could, and you and I seem to agree, no blanket situation or one size, fits all.....
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    « Reply #14 on: August 29, 2012, 01:40:29 PM »
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    If the rich around you get richer, they will provide work for you when they buy all the toys, and services they need, so it's not so bad as you think. The middle class in America is dwingly at a rapid pace, that is a fact. All you can you is work smarter and harder to get  ahead. The days of working at a job that anyone can learn in one week, and getting paid $25+ an hour, are long gone. That's a fact. And the guys who did that work, and went home and had 2 six-packs, and drove their  cadillac to work next day hungover, and did that for 30 years and retired, those days are long gone. They were living in a dream world in the USA. Now, it is reality time. Today, if one does not hussle, they'll be trampled over by someone who does.


    again, a very Nadia type comment, same words and thinking.....

    again, Clint=Nadia and Nadia=CLint!!!   :dancing-banana: :fryingpan: :rahrah:


    (if some odd reason not, then scary 2 people are ignorant of CST and the pre-V2 Papal teachings)
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