Author Topic: Jєωs still Gods chosen people (Read 3068 times)

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #15 on:** October 28, 2013, 03:26:21 PM »

The promise to the Jєωs would have been abrogated by Christ's Resurrection anyway. Any promise to Abraham, and there was one in Genesis, is only valid post-Resurrection in the Catholic Church.

I think we should refrain from using the terminology of the enemies of Our Lord. "Chosenness" and "Promise" and the laughable "Noachide" laws are just forms of deception.

Jєωs pre-Christ are our brothers in the faith but only in their faithfulness to God and his Laws. The Jєωιѕн people who did not follow Christ and did not become a part of the Catholic Church are to be pitied yes but also to be, and I'm not being cruel intentionally, despised. We should despise people who reject Our Lord.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #16 on:** October 28, 2013, 04:58:17 PM »

Quote from: Lighthouse

Infinite Faith,

I can never understand why you start out with humble approach and admission of a lack of knowledge, and then a few sentences later you are making blistering dogmatic pronouncements sounding like Ramses II.

In this case, I am going by what the priest says when I approach it "dogmatically". So I guess before I say things, as if they were true, I should be including "According to this priest" beforehand.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #17 on:** October 28, 2013, 05:00:31 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

The promise to the Jєωs would have been abrogated by Christ's Resurrection anyway. Any promise to Abraham, and there was one in Genesis, is only valid post-Resurrection in the Catholic Church.

I think we should refrain from using the terminology of the enemies of Our Lord. "Chosenness" and "Promise" and the laughable "Noachide" laws are just forms of deception.

Jєωs pre-Christ are our brothers in the faith but only in their faithfulness to God and his Laws. The Jєωιѕн people who did not follow Christ and did not become a part of the Catholic Church are to be pitied yes but also to be, and I'm not being cruel intentionally, despised. We should despise people who reject Our Lord.

Yes I agree. The everlasting covenants of the Old Testament only apply, today, to the Jєωs who are in the Catholic Church. Most of the covenants were abrogated. The ones that were not were the everlasting ones. Everlasting means forever.

2Vermont · « **Reply #18 on:** October 28, 2013, 05:53:43 PM »

Quote from: InfiniteFaith

Quote from: Capt McQuigg
The promise to the Jєωs would have been abrogated by Christ's Resurrection anyway. Any promise to Abraham, and there was one in Genesis, is only valid post-Resurrection in the Catholic Church.

I think we should refrain from using the terminology of the enemies of Our Lord. "Chosenness" and "Promise" and the laughable "Noachide" laws are just forms of deception.

Jєωs pre-Christ are our brothers in the faith but only in their faithfulness to God and his Laws. The Jєωιѕн people who did not follow Christ and did not become a part of the Catholic Church are to be pitied yes but also to be, and I'm not being cruel intentionally, despised. We should despise people who reject Our Lord.

Yes I agree. The everlasting covenants of the Old Testament only apply, today, to the Jєωs who are in the Catholic Church. Most of the covenants were abrogated. The ones that were not were the everlasting ones. Everlasting means forever.

Jєωs in the Catholic Church ..... are Catholics.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #19 on:** October 28, 2013, 06:04:26 PM »

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Quote from: InfiniteFaith
Quote from: Capt McQuigg
The promise to the Jєωs would have been abrogated by Christ's Resurrection anyway. Any promise to Abraham, and there was one in Genesis, is only valid post-Resurrection in the Catholic Church.

I think we should refrain from using the terminology of the enemies of Our Lord. "Chosenness" and "Promise" and the laughable "Noachide" laws are just forms of deception.

Jєωs pre-Christ are our brothers in the faith but only in their faithfulness to God and his Laws. The Jєωιѕн people who did not follow Christ and did not become a part of the Catholic Church are to be pitied yes but also to be, and I'm not being cruel intentionally, despised. We should despise people who reject Our Lord.

Yes I agree. The everlasting covenants of the Old Testament only apply, today, to the Jєωs who are in the Catholic Church. Most of the covenants were abrogated. The ones that were not were the everlasting ones. Everlasting means forever.

Jєωs in the Catholic Church ..... are Catholics.

Yes I mean Catholics who are descendants of the tribes of Israel.

GottmitunsAlex · « **Reply #20 on:** October 28, 2013, 06:33:49 PM »

Quote from: 2Vermont

Quote from: InfiniteFaith
Quote from: Capt McQuigg
The promise to the Jєωs would have been abrogated by Christ's Resurrection anyway. Any promise to Abraham, and there was one in Genesis, is only valid post-Resurrection in the Catholic Church.

I think we should refrain from using the terminology of the enemies of Our Lord. "Chosenness" and "Promise" and the laughable "Noachide" laws are just forms of deception.

Jєωs pre-Christ are our brothers in the faith but only in their faithfulness to God and his Laws. The Jєωιѕн people who did not follow Christ and did not become a part of the Catholic Church are to be pitied yes but also to be, and I'm not being cruel intentionally, despised. We should despise people who reject Our Lord.

Yes I agree. The everlasting covenants of the Old Testament only apply, today, to the Jєωs who are in the Catholic Church. Most of the covenants were abrogated. The ones that were not were the everlasting ones. Everlasting means forever.

Jєωs in the Catholic Church ..... are Catholics.

That's what the marranos have been saying for a very long time.

Of course, I am not generalizing that all Jєωιѕн converts are marranos.

But you'd be suprised at how the "NO-conversos" still cling to the "without the state of israel, there cannot be a second coming" "The covenent remains valid" "We love tradition, but, check out Hebrewcatholic.net" "We are the chosen people"...

Emitte Lucem Tuam · « **Reply #21 on:** October 28, 2013, 09:41:02 PM »

I was always taught that "Jєωs" of today are not the Jєωs of the Old Testament or the Jєωs who lived just before the annihilation of the Temple. Jєωs of today may be thought of as "тαℓмυdists" but not as Jєωs in the biblical sense. Judaism was fulfilled by Jesus Christ in the Holy Roman Catholic Church 2000 years ago. The Covenant has been fulfilled through Christ's death and resurrection. The "Jєωs" (тαℓмυdists) of today (and after the razing of the Temple) should be thought of as any other people who need conversion - heathens, pagans, Hindus, Islamists, etc. Thus Catholics are the fulfilled Chosen People today. Those calling themselves "Jєωs" in a religious sense today follow an entirely different religion than the Judaism during Christ's time.

LaramieHirsch · « **Reply #22 on:** October 28, 2013, 11:07:07 PM »

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Jєωs still Gods chosen people

Indeed. Bomb Iran! McCain 2016! :jumping2:

(kidding)

2Vermont · « **Reply #23 on:** October 29, 2013, 04:16:36 AM »

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Quote from: 2Vermont
Quote from: InfiniteFaith
Quote from: Capt McQuigg
The promise to the Jєωs would have been abrogated by Christ's Resurrection anyway. Any promise to Abraham, and there was one in Genesis, is only valid post-Resurrection in the Catholic Church.

I think we should refrain from using the terminology of the enemies of Our Lord. "Chosenness" and "Promise" and the laughable "Noachide" laws are just forms of deception.

Jєωs pre-Christ are our brothers in the faith but only in their faithfulness to God and his Laws. The Jєωιѕн people who did not follow Christ and did not become a part of the Catholic Church are to be pitied yes but also to be, and I'm not being cruel intentionally, despised. We should despise people who reject Our Lord.

Yes I agree. The everlasting covenants of the Old Testament only apply, today, to the Jєωs who are in the Catholic Church. Most of the covenants were abrogated. The ones that were not were the everlasting ones. Everlasting means forever.

Jєωs in the Catholic Church ..... are Catholics.

That's what the marranos have been saying for a very long time.

Of course, I am not generalizing that all Jєωιѕн converts are marranos.

But you'd be suprised at how the "NO-conversos" still cling to the "without the state of israel, there cannot be a second coming" "The covenent remains valid" "We love tradition, but, check out Hebrewcatholic.net" "We are the chosen people"...

I was never like this, but I would argue that this mentality comes more from the attitude of the NO Church and its false ecuмenism.

2Vermont · « **Reply #24 on:** October 29, 2013, 05:43:33 AM »

Quote from: GottmitunsAlex

Quote from: 2Vermont
Quote from: InfiniteFaith
Quote from: Capt McQuigg
The promise to the Jєωs would have been abrogated by Christ's Resurrection anyway. Any promise to Abraham, and there was one in Genesis, is only valid post-Resurrection in the Catholic Church.

I think we should refrain from using the terminology of the enemies of Our Lord. "Chosenness" and "Promise" and the laughable "Noachide" laws are just forms of deception.

Jєωs pre-Christ are our brothers in the faith but only in their faithfulness to God and his Laws. The Jєωιѕн people who did not follow Christ and did not become a part of the Catholic Church are to be pitied yes but also to be, and I'm not being cruel intentionally, despised. We should despise people who reject Our Lord.

Yes I agree. The everlasting covenants of the Old Testament only apply, today, to the Jєωs who are in the Catholic Church. Most of the covenants were abrogated. The ones that were not were the everlasting ones. Everlasting means forever.

Jєωs in the Catholic Church ..... are Catholics.

That's what the marranos have been saying for a very long time.

Of course, I am not generalizing that all Jєωιѕн converts are marranos.

But you'd be suprised at how the "NO-conversos" still cling to the "without the state of israel, there cannot be a second coming" "The covenent remains valid" "We love tradition, but, check out Hebrewcatholic.net" "We are the chosen people"...

songbird · « **Reply #25 on:** October 29, 2013, 08:32:03 PM »

Emitte: Yes, The Jєωs were chosen, to have the scriptures and such. They had all that going for them. Yet, Christ as a boy, questioned them and listened to them, and there He was in their midst and was not known. Even with all the scriptures foretelling of the Messiah, they did not put their minds there but in other unnecessary places. Because they did not accept Christ, they were no longer the chosen, for they did not choose Christ.

Conspiracy_Factist · « **Reply #26 on:** November 04, 2013, 08:07:59 PM »

Jesus was not a Jєω. He was a Judean. In Greek the word is Ioudaois; in Latin it’s Iudaeus. The word 'Jєω' did not originate until the Middle Ages. Modern-day 'Jєωs' have little connection to Old Testament Judeans.

anyone disagree with this statement? if so why?