Author Topic: Jesus words at Easter to Maria Valtorta (Read 29215 times)

hollingsworth · « **Reply #30 on:** April 08, 2015, 12:28:25 PM »

Arvinger:

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So what? It means only that Pope Pius XII, Bishop Williamson and Archbishop Lefebvre were in error on this specific issue.

Well, of course they were. How silly of me not to realize immediately that the collective wisdom of faceless Cathinfo Illuminati must trump the positive affirmations of the better known three. :roll-laugh2:

MiserereMeiDeus · « **Reply #31 on:** April 08, 2015, 01:07:22 PM »

The Holy City of God by Mary of Agreda was once on the Index. Sr Faustina's Divine Mercy book was put on the Index the same day as Maria Valtorta's book. The Poem of the Man-God has since received formal Imprimaturs from Bishop Roman Danylak, Titular bishop of Nyssa, in 2001 for the English translation, and previously Archbishop Soosa Pakiam M. of Trivandrum, India, granted an Imprimatur for the Malayalam translation of Poem of the Man-God in 1992.

It is insanely presumptuous for someone to howl like a possessed madman about imaginary "filth" in such a work under these circuмstances. The lack of respect is appalling, and suggests TROLLING.

Matto · « **Reply #32 on:** April 08, 2015, 01:11:03 PM »

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The Poem of the Man-God has since received formal Imprimaturs from Bishop Roman Danylak, Titular bishop of Nyssa, in 2001 for the English translation, and previously Archbishop Soosa Pakiam M. of Trivandrum, India, granted an Imprimatur for the Malayalam translation of Poem of the Man-God in 1992.

So two Novus Ordo Bishops approved of it. That should mean nothing to anyone who posts on this forum. At least the argument that Bishop Williamson approves of it has weight among traditional Catholics.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #33 on:** April 08, 2015, 01:11:37 PM »

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Ladislaus, please shut up! :rolleyes:

I'll shut up only if you do. So long as you continue promoting this blasphemous and heretical insult against Our Lord and Our Blessed Mother, I will do no such thing.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #34 on:** April 08, 2015, 01:14:18 PM »

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The 'shining lights' on Cathinfo' imply that Bp. Williamson, Pius XII and Abp. Marcel Lefebvre promoted this "filth." Because to date, no one has come forward with proof that they didn't.

It's not for us to prove a negative, jester. You have not proven that Pius XII or +Lefebvre approved of it. +Williamson's promotion of Valtorta is well known. So the burden of proof is, firstly, on you, and, secondly, even if Pius XII and +Lefebvre did promote it, I don't change my mind for a second; they got it wrong. Pius XII also approved "Maria Esperanza". Look it up. And Pius XII would have approved it as a private person, whereas the Holy Office put it on the Index as an act of the Church's authority, which trumps the opinion of Pacelli.