[OHCA]

I am sorry, Vox.  If you feel that you must ban me for this, rest assured that I will not be one of those people who goes around trashing you in other forums.  I consider you a friend. And as a friend I have a greater responsibility to speak the truth to you.

Ok, you spoke the truth to her now drop her like the danger to your soul that she is and never look back. Do not consider her a friend any longer, rather, consider her (and that forum) to be one of some influence over you which has already proved to be able to sway you away from heaven and toward hell. We, as Catholics, are taught to run, not walk away from that.

If she is a true friend, then she will bend to the truth with you, not remain against you in this important matter.

The truth is that pretending that Impy is a woman is wrong.

You probably realize this but just to expand on it a bit - it is not only just wrong, it is a mortal sin - and not just any mortal sin, it is one of the sins which cry to heaven for God to bring His vengeance for that sin and for the acceptance of that sin upon us.
THIS is what Vox is defending. By her defense of this mortal sin, she supports this mortal sin.

FE breeds the sin of 'Human respect weakness'. The whole queer saga is 'Human respect weakness' personified by the shepherd of that site. She is the  leader there and she is very vocal about what she believes, she is the authority there and as such, she will have more to answer for, some people there might disagree to some degree with her, but over all, most of them tolerate, compromise and follow her scandalous lead for the sake of fellowship and don't even realize it.

"Shake the dust" and stay far away lest you get sucked back into that den of iniquity.

No.  

If I have anything negative to say about Vox or FE, I am going to say it to her, not post about it here.  And I am not interested in the negative comments of others.

You're a batty as ever.

Of course she is.  She is an old flower-child hippie who is too old to change her ways.

[OHCA]

There are so many things that I find objectionable on this forum that I can no longer remain here in good conscience.  I do not want my name associated with it.

What is the procedure to have my membership ended?  Matthew, please ban me if that is what is required.

God bless you all.

All of this pomp & circuмstance bs formality was nice for the 6 wks that it lasted (which was about 6 times longer than I expected).

I am disappointed that such a drama pro didn't think of creating her own new welcome back thread though.  That's an idea she can use when she soon decides to return to FE.

[Meg]

No.  

If I have anything negative to say about Vox or FE, I am going to say it to her, not post about it here.  And I am not interested in the negative comments of others.

Jayne, what were you expecting when you began posting here again? Did you expect that the forum members here would not remind you that Vox is, and has been, fully complicit and supportive of Impy's pretending to be a woman, and supporting the cause of transsɛҳuąƖism in general? It doesn't do much good to realize that there's a problem with Impy, but not with Vox, who has allowed it to happen on a supposedly "Traditional" Catholic forum (which it isn't).

[Jaynek]

No.  

If I have anything negative to say about Vox or FE, I am going to say it to her, not post about it here.  And I am not interested in the negative comments of others.

Jayne, what were you expecting when you began posting here again? Did you expect that the forum members here would not remind you that Vox is, and has been, fully complicit and supportive of Impy's pretending to be a woman, and supporting the cause of transsɛҳuąƖism in general? It doesn't do much good to realize that there's a problem with Impy, but not with Vox, who has allowed it to happen on a supposedly "Traditional" Catholic forum (which it isn't).

I have already told Vox what I think of her actions and I see no reason to discuss them with anyone else.  

[Meg]

No.  

If I have anything negative to say about Vox or FE, I am going to say it to her, not post about it here.  And I am not interested in the negative comments of others.

Jayne, what were you expecting when you began posting here again? Did you expect that the forum members here would not remind you that Vox is, and has been, fully complicit and supportive of Impy's pretending to be a woman, and supporting the cause of transsɛҳuąƖism in general? It doesn't do much good to realize that there's a problem with Impy, but not with Vox, who has allowed it to happen on a supposedly "Traditional" Catholic forum (which it isn't).

I have already told Vox what I think of her actions and I see no reason to discuss them with anyone else.  

Then why do you even bring the subject up at all here?

[Jaynek]

No.  

If I have anything negative to say about Vox or FE, I am going to say it to her, not post about it here.  And I am not interested in the negative comments of others.

Jayne, what were you expecting when you began posting here again? Did you expect that the forum members here would not remind you that Vox is, and has been, fully complicit and supportive of Impy's pretending to be a woman, and supporting the cause of transsɛҳuąƖism in general? It doesn't do much good to realize that there's a problem with Impy, but not with Vox, who has allowed it to happen on a supposedly "Traditional" Catholic forum (which it isn't).

I have already told Vox what I think of her actions and I see no reason to discuss them with anyone else.  

Then why do you even bring the subject up at all here?

I was asked a direct question by St. Magnus: "How do you feel about the infiltration of FE Jayne ? Now that 95% of the trads are gone there, and tranny runs the place ? "

[2Vermont]

I am going to make a prediction though:  Vox will un-ban you.

I don't expect that to happen.

Why doesn't it show you as being banned on FE?  I thought everyone who is banned gets it noted on their SN with a reason for the ban.

[Jaynek]

I am going to make a prediction though:  Vox will un-ban you.

I don't expect that to happen.

Why doesn't it show you as being banned on FE?  I thought everyone who is banned gets it noted on their SN with a reason for the ban.

It doesn't always show it there, but I don't know why.  She did mention it in a post though.  She isn't trying to keep it a secret or anything.

[Devekut]

Jayne,
It appears that your comment, and all others connected to it, has been removed from FE. Vox is doing her best to remove all traces of the defense of tradition. She even moved that tranny thread to another part of the forum.

[OHCA]

Jayne,
It appears that your comment, and all others connected to it, has been removed from FE. Vox is doing her best to remove all traces of the defense of tradition. She even moved that tranny thread to another part of the forum.

Link please.  Also I'm dying to see where the dude was flirting with Impy and got pissed when he found out.

[Devekut]

The link below only shows where Gimpy revealed how manly he is. All the arguments or whatever were there originally have been deleted. I didn't see the original comments so I can't confirm that they were ever there. As for the catfishing Gimpy/Clarelyqueer is accused of, I don't even know where that thread is located.


http://catholicforum.fisheaters.com/index.php/topic,3461413.0.html

[Jaynek]

Also I'm dying to see where the dude was flirting with Impy and got pissed when he found out.

It is in this thread: flirting Other things are going on so you need to skin through the whole thing.

[Mithrandylan]

"Daddy" went out in style:

So I've been thinking. I figured out pretty quickly this is a femcentric forum because most of the men who linger here are of the invertibrate, herd variety and the women tend to want to promote this behavior in men. I was amused to see only men imputing sexism to me. That's what tends to happen in a femcentric environment. The men who linger there frequently become weak enforcers of an effeminate worldview. But at first I thought it was just incidental, and I can put up with a certain amount of that. Now with this situation, however, I think the place is structurally hostile to men. Because it has this approved, structural deception that can only be maintained with the complicity of forum members. That's wrong and repulsive and indicates a heavy herd mentality, which is, like I said, repulsive when it's running the show, but also boring because it always tries to constrict intellectual play. That can make for some fun sparring at first, but it's ultimately tiresome. This specific misrepresentation of Impy/Clare stems from a false dualistic view of humans wherein we are spirits operating our bodies like pieces of equipment. But we aren't. We ARE our bodies, according to the Catholic Church. Our spirits and bodies are a unity. That's why life and personhood begin at conception. Anyway, I know enough about groupthink not to expect anything to change. So I'm just going to leave, which ought to please the herd. I might have to go search out the "crunchies" whoever they are. The way people talk about them here, they sound like they might just be ordinary men. I was fairly excited when I found Fisheaters, but now I'm bitterly disappointed.

Darn tootin'.  Funny that someone who just joined can see this, but the usual suspects can't-- or perhaps they do, and just don't care; they might even like it.

[Jaynek]

"Daddy" went out in style:

So I've been thinking. I figured out pretty quickly this is a femcentric forum because most of the men who linger here are of the invertibrate, herd variety and the women tend to want to promote this behavior in men. I was amused to see only men imputing sexism to me. That's what tends to happen in a femcentric environment. The men who linger there frequently become weak enforcers of an effeminate worldview. But at first I thought it was just incidental, and I can put up with a certain amount of that. Now with this situation, however, I think the place is structurally hostile to men. Because it has this approved, structural deception that can only be maintained with the complicity of forum members. That's wrong and repulsive and indicates a heavy herd mentality, which is, like I said, repulsive when it's running the show, but also boring because it always tries to constrict intellectual play. That can make for some fun sparring at first, but it's ultimately tiresome. This specific misrepresentation of Impy/Clare stems from a false dualistic view of humans wherein we are spirits operating our bodies like pieces of equipment. But we aren't. We ARE our bodies, according to the Catholic Church. Our spirits and bodies are a unity. That's why life and personhood begin at conception. Anyway, I know enough about groupthink not to expect anything to change. So I'm just going to leave, which ought to please the herd. I might have to go search out the "crunchies" whoever they are. The way people talk about them here, they sound like they might just be ordinary men. I was fairly excited when I found Fisheaters, but now I'm bitterly disappointed.

Darn tootin'.  Funny that someone who just joined can see this, but the usual suspects can't-- or perhaps they do, and just don't care; they might even like it.

For what it's worth I was/am ashamed of my behaviour in that thread.  I discussed it further with "Daddy" in PM.  He was very angry with me, but later he forgave me.

[2Vermont]

"Daddy" went out in style:

So I've been thinking. I figured out pretty quickly this is a femcentric forum because most of the men who linger here are of the invertibrate, herd variety and the women tend to want to promote this behavior in men. I was amused to see only men imputing sexism to me. That's what tends to happen in a femcentric environment. The men who linger there frequently become weak enforcers of an effeminate worldview. But at first I thought it was just incidental, and I can put up with a certain amount of that. Now with this situation, however, I think the place is structurally hostile to men. Because it has this approved, structural deception that can only be maintained with the complicity of forum members. That's wrong and repulsive and indicates a heavy herd mentality, which is, like I said, repulsive when it's running the show, but also boring because it always tries to constrict intellectual play. That can make for some fun sparring at first, but it's ultimately tiresome. This specific misrepresentation of Impy/Clare stems from a false dualistic view of humans wherein we are spirits operating our bodies like pieces of equipment. But we aren't. We ARE our bodies, according to the Catholic Church. Our spirits and bodies are a unity. That's why life and personhood begin at conception. Anyway, I know enough about groupthink not to expect anything to change. So I'm just going to leave, which ought to please the herd. I might have to go search out the "crunchies" whoever they are. The way people talk about them here, they sound like they might just be ordinary men. I was fairly excited when I found Fisheaters, but now I'm bitterly disappointed.

Darn tootin'.  Funny that someone who just joined can see this, but the usual suspects can't-- or perhaps they do, and just don't care; they might even like it.

Wait, so all of this went on and Vox did nothing?