[parentsfortruth]

I just want to say I agree with her as a new person trying to learn you guys are not hospitable at all.

I was excited to find this forum because I was hungry for more knowledge. I know I don't know much but where do you go today? I needed someone to tell me what books to read and where to go for the truth. I thought this forum was the place but people here are nasty and you do it in the name of "true charity".  There is a difference from sheparding someone gently and just being mean.

All I can say is that you are being fooled but the devil (some of you) because he uses the oldest military trick there is and that is divide and conquer. If we all ban together he has a hard time getting our souls but if he divides you by uses labels then it is easier. Why do you have to label everyone anyway? You think by telling her she is a NO that makes it ok to write her off? Maybe she came here to learn too and doesn't know as much as you. God puts those who know more with more responsibility to those who don't yet know.

Anyway. Not everyone was mean. I actually like Ggreg dude and that tiffany and there are a few others. I know some of you are like "she would like his posts.......whatever. Treat people like you want to be treated. I am done here too.

Well that's your prerogative to leave. People like her are not here to learn, they're here to ninny people for having educated opinions that disagree with her own. All you have to do is look at her posting history and see that she's a flaming liberal. There are other fora that she posts on and they're no different in tone than the ones she posted here.

Defending a transsɛҳuąƖ for adopting pronouns that do not match HIS gender is NOT a charitable thing to do, but she masks it saying that it's out of charity. It's FALSE charity she's adopting and trying to push on others here. I'm GLAD she's gone. People like her are not here to learn anything, but they try to inject the poison of modernism into others.

If you're really here to learn, thicken your skin, and listen to what people are saying. Or, you can just leave.

[MiserereMeiDeus]

I was excited to find this forum because I was hungry for more knowledge. I know I don't know much but where do you go today? I needed someone to tell me what books to read and where to go for the truth. I thought this forum was the place but people here are nasty and you do it in the name of "true charity".  There is a difference from sheparding someone gently and just being mean.

...

 I am done here too.

If the above poster were genuinely interested in finding books that contain sound doctrine and that sort of thing, there are several sub-forums here that deal with exactly that. Instead, she chooses to hang out in the "Wild West" portions of the forum, and then complains that she doesn't like guns. Weird.

[Capt McQuigg]

Julie10,

Please understand that what you call "nastiness" may just be a lack of knowledge on your part.  The novus ordo is very watered down and teaches that pretty much everyone goes to heaven and, sometimes the novus ordo presider will say things like "God hates plastic" or something absolutely counterproductive to the salvation of souls.  Well, if you have been listened to novus ordo emptiness all your life and you come to a place like this and hear what some of the greatest Catholic saints and popes in the history of the Holy Church had to say, you would blush, just maybe.  We have a lot of knowledgeable posters here who will really give it to you straight!

The novus ordo is a counterfeit form of Catholicism and is toothless and will not lead you anywhere good.  The Catholic Church will DEMAND that you change your way of doing things OR ELSE!!!  It's Our Lord's Church and He established it for the salvation of our souls so it counts as perhaps the greatest act of charity EVER.

Now, if you just want something to read, then get a Tan Book Co. Baltimore Catechism and get the Tan Book Co edition of St. Francis de Sales's "Introduction to the Devout Life."  Start with these books.  

[Charlemagne]

I’m afraid you’re wasting your time, Good Cap’n. Julie apparently took her ball and went home – I would imagine to Vox.

[2Vermont]

Hi All,

I thought it would be appropriate for me to introduce myself here since I was the other person banned on FE with Meg.

Like Meg, my ban is just as well.  I clearly don't fit in there.  There are a few others who think like I do, but they're also too busy watching what they are saying for fear of being chastised for being uncharitable or coming up against the fave posters.  Bottom line..Vox didn't like that I disagreed vehemently on the matter of worrying about being nicer so that others will like us more.  

I was literally thinking about leaving the forum when I returned to find out, well, that I couldn't even access my account.  No warnings.  Nothing.  For someone who is so concerned about being nice, it didn't even cross Vox's mind to at least give me a warning, etc. But then again, I'm not the kind of trad she wants there anyway, so why be nice?  Sooooo reminiscent of CAF.

I hear you guys are a bunch of meanies   :scared2:, so I'll have to see if I can fit in here.  So far I am 0-2 for Catholic forums.  

Welcome, 2Vermont! Glad to see you here. Yes, FE is similar to CAF, but then trads who have a liberal tendency, or smells and bells types, need to congregate somewhere, so FE is their place. The emphasis there, now, is to be super-nice, and Vox has a right to do what she wants, but this forum (CI) represents Tradition more accurately, IMO. I'll miss some of the posters there, though, like Tim. But oh well.

 
Thanks Meg!  I too will miss some posters and I suspect there are a handful that are sorry to see me get banned.  I'm hoping that I can connect with some of them.....maybe they'll join here (or maybe they already are members here).

I'm thinking FE was a stepping stone from CAF.  I thought it would be much different and was disappointed for sure.  When I joined the whole sex change fiasco was taking place (or was at least being talked about in a huge thread).  Perhaps I should have taken that as a warning.  For me the ban and quick un-ban of Melchoir is when I started to realize exactly what was going on.  Anyway, time to move on....I hope "three's a charm".  

[Graham]

To be fair and honest, something I am known for  :wink:, JayneK is a total pain and I have told her so on several occasions. She deliberately takes contrary positions, spends inordinate amounts of time on line, though she pictures herself with multiple grandchildren.  She is a member of multiple Catholic forums, certainly enough to get her forum jollies off.

I bet if you asked her husband, after a couple of drinks, he would privately admit that she sits at the computer all day arguing with people on the Internet and he might even use the term "addiction".  Now sure, she is not the only person guilty of that, by any means, but the solution to all the hate lies in her hands.  Turn the computer off and go and babysit your grandchildren or bake a cake or make your husband a sandwich.

She joined CathInfo looking for a fight and to cross swords.  It's not like this place has suddenly changed its character all of a sudden.  It is well known on ALL to other Trad forums as being the most hardliner, nutty, wacko, call it what you will.  And JayneK was well aware of that before she joined because it was not the first forum she joined.

JayneK came here for one reason and one reason alone.  Because she was not getting her "fix" at the other forums.  She was the tough girl on the street in her white middle class world and decide to test her street fighting skills against people who live in the hood.  She got her arse handed to her and she is withdrawing shouting insults.

Ask people in any Trad parish anywhere in the world whether they would term a man who had a sex change operation and re-styled himself as a woman as "she" and "her" out of charity.  Ask your Trad priest whether one should do that?  See what he says.

Well Greg, she has you on one thing:

My initial reaction to Greg reviving this old thread was to resent him portraying me as a liberal in order to congratulate himself on being so moderate and reasonable.

She didn't quite nail it, but it's a transparent gambit.

[Exfish]

Julie10,

Please understand that what you call "nastiness" may just be a lack of knowledge on your part.  The novus ordo is very watered down and teaches that pretty much everyone goes to heaven and, sometimes the novus ordo presider will say things like "God hates plastic" or something absolutely counterproductive to the salvation of souls.  Well, if you have been listened to novus ordo emptiness all your life and you come to a place like this and hear what some of the greatest Catholic saints and popes in the history of the Holy Church had to say, you would blush, just maybe.  We have a lot of knowledgeable posters here who will really give it to you straight!

The novus ordo is a counterfeit form of Catholicism and is toothless and will not lead you anywhere good.  The Catholic Church will DEMAND that you change your way of doing things OR ELSE!!!  It's Our Lord's Church and He established it for the salvation of our souls so it counts as perhaps the greatest act of charity EVER.Now, if you just want something to read, then get a Tan Book Co. Baltimore Catechism and get the Tan Book Co edition of St. Francis de Sales's "Introduction to the Devout Life."  Start with these books.  

This.  :applause: :applause:

[donkath]

However, with the demise of IA, we can expect trolls to migrate to CI.

I was wondering why I couldn't log on.

[inprincipio]

Ok, ggreg, I agree with you on your last post.   :cool:

[Hatchc]

I really hope this departure gets enforced. No "backsies". If JK just cannot contain herself about some antisemitic post she sees and comments after days or weeks then pulls her usual "sorry for chiming in and making you all angry again, I understand why you'd be angry" routine she should be banned and the BS post deleted.

This dramatic exit should be enforced. Y'know, for her own good of course, since this place is such a danger to her. Yeah. That's it. *cough*

She'll be back.

Members are never banned when they request it.

[Hatchc]

I was never attracted to trad Catholicism based on the niceness or meanness of trads. I was attracted to it because the Conciliar Church appeared to me to have nothing to do with Catholicism.

This is pretty much my take on it, too. People can go over-the-top with rudeness, which can become a problem, but I don't, any longer, judge solid Church teaching based on how nice a person is who is stating it.

This is sound.

There are nice types and mean types in every belief system. Some nice people are fake nice, meaning their niceness is rooted in worldliness and not holiness. Some mean types, on the other hand, are holy.

Padre Pio wouldn't have won a congeniality contest.

[Meg]

I was never attracted to trad Catholicism based on the niceness or meanness of trads. I was attracted to it because the Conciliar Church appeared to me to have nothing to do with Catholicism.

This is pretty much my take on it, too. People can go over-the-top with rudeness, which can become a problem, but I don't, any longer, judge solid Church teaching based on how nice a person is who is stating it.

This is sound.

There are nice types and mean types in every belief system. Some nice people are fake nice, meaning their niceness is rooted in worldliness and not holiness. Some mean types, on the other hand, are holy.

Padre Pio wouldn't have won a congeniality contest.

Agreed. And yes, Padre Pio is a good example of someone who did not suffer fools gladly. He just told them what they needed to hear. Though he could, if the situation called for it, be caring as well. I think that this is one of the reasons why he was so loved and respected. No wishy-washiness from him at all.

[MiserereMeiDeus]

Agreed. And yes, Padre Pio is a good example of someone who did not suffer fools gladly. He just told them what they needed to hear. Though he could, if the situation called for it, be caring as well. I think that this is one of the reasons why he was so loved and respected. No wishy-washiness from him at all.

I concur. I also think that there are always a few people who think themselves a second Padre Pio who in fact fall a bit short of the mark. Some of them post on internet fora.

[Jaynek]

I wish to retract my first post in this thread. At the time I wrote it, I had been receiving PMs from someone trying to persuade me to quit CI.  I now question his influence on me and the decisions that I made under his influence.

[icterus]

You need to quit the entire internet for a time.  I say this as a person who has had to quit things myself before, because they were bad for me, even if they were not objectively evil.  I had to tell my boss I needed to quit going to trade shows because I found them to be an occasion of sin.  Not everyone needs to boycott trade shows, of course, but I did.  In the same way, you need to quit the internet.