Take over parishes.  Where are all the cradle Catholics?
These new converts to Catholicism have residue of heresy.  

Take over parishes.  Where are all the cradle Catholics?
These new converts to Catholicism have residue of heresy.  

The title of this thread and this post aren't very clear. What exactly do you mean?

It seems to mean something that I noticed quite a while ago.  It seems that most of the new lay apologists are converts.  Very few of them are cradle Catholics.  The Novus Ordo convert apologists embrace the ecuмenical heresies while the traditional convert apologists read Denzinger the way Protestants view the bible--instead of Sola Scriptura, their doctrine is Sola Denzinger.

Often a convert will appreciate the Faith more and be more fervent about it, having found the pearl of great price after much anxiety and effort.

Cradle Catholics often take the Faith for granted.

It's poor human nature talking once again.

In my experience you're right. An huge amount of the young cradle trads I've seen are quite lukewarm in the faith (not all of them, of course), they also seem to be quite naïve about the modern world and the Conciliar Church. A lot of that could be down to lazy parenting, though.

On the other hand, I've never met a lukewarm convert.

Well, I think the apostasy which we see these days has influenced that. Great many cradle Catholics have abandoned the faith, while the converts from Protestantism usually decided to convert after carefully studying the Bible, Church history, writings of the Early Church Fathers etc. (see the conversion stories of Tim Staples, Frank Beckwith, Robert Sungenis, Jason Stellman and many others) - as a result their knowledge and understanding of the Catholic faith is often miles ahead of an average Novus Ordite. Some of them even become Traditionalists, for example Robert Sungenis and Gerry Matatics. Surely, there is often some Protestant mentality left, which I suspect is one of the reasons why the ex-Protestant, now Catholic apologists of Catholic Answers (Tim Staples, Jimmy Akin) completely collapse on the issue of EENS - this doctrine of exclusive salvation is radically opposite to the Protestant ecclesiology which assumes existence of "invisible Church" made up of believers materially belonging to different Churches or denominations. As a result, even though they have rejected heretical Protestant ecclesiology, I guess it can be hard to fully accept the strict Catholic salvation dogma.

Myself I'm a revert from Evangelical Protestantism. I was baptized in the Catholic Church but I fell away early (I became practically agnostic) and when I made friends with Protestants after moving to the UK I was ignorant of the Catholic faith and I did not know how to defend it. As a result I was initially convinced to the Protestant doctrines and joined a conservative (5 solas, T.U.L.I.P.) non-denominational Evangelical church. However, studying the Sacred Scripture, the Early Church Fathers and investigating doctrines which divide Catholicism and Protestantism led me back to the Catholic Church. Ironically, joining the Evangelical congregation eventually resulted in restoration of my Catholic faith and grasping much better understanding of it (God's grace can work in very unpredictable ways!). I suspect this might be the case with many converts/reverts.

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Some of them even become Traditionalists, for example Robert Sungenis

Sungenis a traditionalist?

He's nothing of the sort.

I agree he is not a Traditionalist in a definition which would be accepted here by most of us (unfortunately, he spoke againt SSPX several times), but he has publicly criticized errors of Vatican II Popes, distanced himself from the general course the Conciliar Church has taken and I think he attends Latin Mass now (albeit probably in Conciliar structures). It seems he has not yet connected all the dots to draw conclusions and still considers Novus Ordo to be Catholic.

Although some still regard me as a “Catholic apologist,” unlike Jimmy Akin and Catholic Answers I no longer consider myself an apologist for the modern Catholic Church. When compared to the Catholic Church of tradition, I have resolved that the modern Catholic Church will be required to stand on its own, for I simply cannot defend it any longer. There are simply too many doctrinal aberrations and moral laxities in today’s Catholic Church that are indefensible. In light of these problems, I have assumed what I believe is the more appropriate position – that of being a prophet of warning rather than one an apologist seeking to exonerate the Church from false accusations. Today many accusations against the Church are quite legitimate and I certainly will not be a party to sweeping them under the rug. Hence, I presently take my model from that of Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel and all the other prophets who spoke out against similar doctrinal aberrations and moral laxities that occurred in Israel before God finally judged them. I believe that if the modern Catholic Church stays on the course it has chosen, it also will be judged by God as Israel was, and, in fact, it is already being judged as we have seen the deterioration in the Church for the last few decades. I’m sorry to have to say this, but from all my knowledge and experience, I would have to say that the last few pontificates have been an almost total disaster for the Catholic Church, especially the pontificate of John Paul II.

I'm talking about a "new" covert.  Some who has been Catholic for short amount of time and are already writing books on Catholicism.  Or the number of new converts are professors in Catholic College.  Most new converts love the novous ordo Mass.  

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Some of them even become Traditionalists, for example Robert Sungenis

Sungenis a traditionalist?

He's nothing of the sort.

I agree he is not a Traditionalist in a definition which would be accepted here by most of us (unfortunately, he spoke againt SSPX several times), but he has publicly criticized errors of Vatican II Popes, distanced himself from the general course the Conciliar Church has taken and I think he attends Latin Mass now (albeit probably in Conciliar structures). It seems he has not yet connected all the dots to draw conclusions and still considers Novus Ordo to be Catholic.

Quote from: Robert Sungenis

Although some still regard me as a “Catholic apologist,” unlike Jimmy Akin and Catholic Answers I no longer consider myself an apologist for the modern Catholic Church. When compared to the Catholic Church of tradition, I have resolved that the modern Catholic Church will be required to stand on its own, for I simply cannot defend it any longer. There are simply too many doctrinal aberrations and moral laxities in today’s Catholic Church that are indefensible. In light of these problems, I have assumed what I believe is the more appropriate position – that of being a prophet of warning rather than one an apologist seeking to exonerate the Church from false accusations. Today many accusations against the Church are quite legitimate and I certainly will not be a party to sweeping them under the rug. Hence, I presently take my model from that of Jeremiah, Isaiah, Ezekiel and all the other prophets who spoke out against similar doctrinal aberrations and moral laxities that occurred in Israel before God finally judged them. I believe that if the modern Catholic Church stays on the course it has chosen, it also will be judged by God as Israel was, and, in fact, it is already being judged as we have seen the deterioration in the Church for the last few decades. I’m sorry to have to say this, but from all my knowledge and experience, I would have to say that the last few pontificates have been an almost total disaster for the Catholic Church, especially the pontificate of John Paul II.

When did he say that.

In 2011 I believe. Here is an article of Novus Ordo apologist Dave Armstrong criticizing Sungenis for "radical Catholic reactionary thinking", "edging closer to outright schism" and "attacking blessed Pope John Paul II".
http://socrates58.blogspot.com/2011/04/robert-sungenis-embraces-radtradism-and.html