Author Topic: Is this a joke? Neanderthals breeding with humans (Read 1285 times)

Raoul76 · « **on:** August 26, 2011, 06:35:41 PM »

http://www.dailytech.com/Neanderthal+Sex+Gave+Europeans+and+Asians+Stronger+Immune+Systems/article22555.htm

Is this article meant to be real? It looks like a parody from The Onion. I think the devil is laughing up his sleeve at the people who believe in evolution now.

I thought humans were supposed to have evolved from Neanderthals, that was the story they were telling. Now humans were mating with Neanderthals and people today have Neanderthal DNA? The pictures of the "Neanderthals" are classic, lol.

P.S. Don't scroll down past the article, the reader comments section is as crude as it usually is.

Daegus · « **Reply #1 on:** August 26, 2011, 08:25:10 PM »

Don't be surprised. Many evolutionists today are liars and use more witchcraft to transform their arguments than most pagans do in their ceremonies.

It's sad today that we have so many "Catholics" that believe in it...

Pyrrhos · « **Reply #2 on:** August 27, 2011, 01:10:15 AM »

Well, I learned in school that there are two theories, namely the Neanderthals being a subspecies of the human species (Homo sapiens neanderthalensis) or a separate human species (Homo neanderthalensis).
Mixture between man and Neanderthal is being discussed for a few decades now, but obviously modern DNA research gave more factual basis for this theory.
Also, the evolutionary theory does not say that the whole family or species of the evolved life form does evolve. Typically, is only happens in very few (or a single) specimen.

Be that as it may, since both "species" are rational animals, this presents no problem to Catholic apologetics.

LordPhan · « **Reply #3 on:** August 27, 2011, 01:41:33 AM »

Quote from: Pyrrhos

Well, I learned in school that there are two theories, namely the Neanderthals being a subspecies of the human species (Homo sapiens neanderthalensis) or a separate human species (Homo neanderthalensis).
Mixture between man and Neanderthal is being discussed for a few decades now, but obviously modern DNA research gave more factual basis for this theory.
Also, the evolutionary theory does not say that the whole family or species of the evolved life form does evolve. Typically, is only happens in very few (or a single) specimen.

Be that as it may, since both "species" are rational animals, this presents no problem to Catholic apologetics.

Evolution theory is the theory that everything is random and there is no God. It is a religion with no science behind it. The Theory you and the neo-cath's are passing off as being 'evolution' is actually the theory of Intelligent design, which of course is not being taught in schools.

Of course we as Catholics believe in Creationism. That God created everything from nothing and nothing is random. Science actually backs this up and scientific journals routinely speak of how to word things in the media without getting attacked every which way from the creationists.

I have a friend at the SSPX who is getting his PhD in Bio Chemistry and he would tell you that evolution is unprovable.

Here is another site though from a protestant scientist. http://www.ridgecrest.ca.us/~do_while/sage/index.htm

Raoul76 · « **Reply #4 on:** August 27, 2011, 01:55:23 AM »

God created man. The idea of there being a "subspecies" sounds heretical to me. Especially when you talk about this subspecies mating with man as if it's really a different species. If Neanderthals are "another human species," that sounds to me like the same thing. Do you mean another race? Otherwise it's a quibble with words.

It's like that garbage about Nephilim mating with humans, fallen angels mating with humans.

There are only humans.

This article is just absurd, how it insults the intelligence. It's demonic. Did you look at it, Lord Phan? People may just read my post and figure they get the idea, but you really have to look at this article. It shows some cheerleader smooching a "Neanderthal," then it shows an African tribesman who supposedly has Neanderthal DNA. The proof, apparently, is that he looks like their model of a Neanderthal that in itself is just an imaginary rendering.

That reminds me, there is a blatant racism to evolutionary theory too -- it reminds me of nαzιsm. Like some proof of our so-called evolution from apes is that certain black people resemble apes; I can show you women who resemble cats, does that mean they evolved from cats?

LordPhan · « **Reply #5 on:** August 27, 2011, 02:06:47 AM »

Quote from: Raoul76

God created man. The idea of there being a "subspecies" sounds heretical to me. Especially when you talk about this subspecies mating with man as if it's really a different species. If Neanderthals are "another human species," that sounds to me like the same thing. Do you mean another race? Otherwise it's a quibble with words.

It's like that garbage about Nephilim mating with humans, fallen angels mating with humans.

There are only humans.

This article is just absurd, how it insults the intelligence. It's demonic. Did you look at it, Lord Phan? People may just read my post and figure they get the idea, but you really have to look at this article. It shows some cheerleader smooching a "Neanderthal," then it shows an African tribesman who supposedly has Neanderthal DNA. The proof, apparently, is that he looks like their model of a Neanderthal that in itself is just an imaginary rendering.

That reminds me, there is a blatant racism to evolutionary theory too -- it reminds me of nαzιsm. Like some proof of our so-called evolution from apes is that certain black people resemble apes; I can show you women who resemble cats, does that mean they evolved from cats?

No sir I did not read it, but I am on your side so I didn't see the point.

nαzιsm was based on evolution theory, so you are correct.

Evolution is a religion it is not science.

What they call macro-evolution is scientifically impossible(The spontaneous creation of new information) as per the 2nd Law of Information exchange, "All information must originate from an intelligent source"

What they call micro-evolution is actually the multi-thousand year science of Husbandry, it is the LOSS of information through in-breeding. This is how we make 'breeds' of dogs. But you cannot make a dog turn into a cat.

Modern day 'science' does not use the scientific method. Thusly it is not science.

They re-named Husbandry to micro-evolution so they can show husbandry to children call it evolution and make them believe in their religious cult of macro-evolution.

I am not an evolutionist, I am a Catholic. :)

Pyrrhos · « **Reply #6 on:** August 27, 2011, 02:13:30 AM »

I never said that I believe in Evolutionism, I just gave the opinion of mainstream science.
My point was, that even if its true what they say, both species are human to Catholic standards. So I don´t see a problem, really.

PS: Subspecies and "another species" are different things. The latter is a "level up", that is, it pertains to the biological genus.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #7 on:** August 27, 2011, 11:35:33 PM »

I wonder if Neanderthals were the "nephtalim" in Genesis?

Jamie · « **Reply #8 on:** August 28, 2011, 03:15:57 PM »

Quote from: Pyrrhos

Well, I learned in school that there are two theories, namely the Neanderthals being a subspecies of the human species (Homo sapiens neanderthalensis) or a separate human species (Homo neanderthalensis).
Mixture between man and Neanderthal is being discussed for a few decades now, but obviously modern DNA research gave more factual basis for this theory.
Also, the evolutionary theory does not say that the whole family or species of the evolved life form does evolve. Typically, is only happens in very few (or a single) specimen.

Be that as it may, since both "species" are rational animals, this presents no problem to Catholic apologetics.

Humans are the only rational animals - it is the essential thing which separates us from the brutes. To say other animals are or were rational causes many problems with the doctrine of original sin and the origin of man.

Gregory I · « **Reply #9 on:** August 29, 2011, 12:33:27 AM »

The really weird thing (and I am no evolutionist) is that Neandertal Man's DNA makeup is significantly different from modern man. That means he is NOT the same as us.

Whose image is he then made in?