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Offline sedetrad

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Is their a rock star syndrome among traditional priests?
« on: May 15, 2013, 09:33:27 AM »
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  • It seems that certain “traditional priests” have the need to travel the world and become “rock stars”. The SSPX seems to be immune to this syndrome. The CMRI seems to be immune to this syndrome. The dynamic duo out in sedeland in Cincinnati seem to suffer from this syndrome. It seems that Father Pheiffer may be suffering from this also. What happened to doing your duty as a parish priest in humility? Why the need to travel across the world? I find this troubling. Granted, the majority of trad priests do not suffer from this, but it seems a very real small minority do. Please feel free to critique or comment.


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    Is their a rock star syndrome among traditional priests?
    « Reply #1 on: May 15, 2013, 09:37:00 AM »
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  • There might be, but I really don't think Fr Pfeiffer would fall into that category.

    Were the Apostles rockstars?  
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    Is their a rock star syndrome among traditional priests?
    « Reply #2 on: May 15, 2013, 09:54:25 AM »
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  • There's a difference between a missionary spirit and a rockstar spirit.  I think some priests do have the rockstar spirit, but I don't think the fact that they are vocal and attention grabbing are the indicators.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Is their a rock star syndrome among traditional priests?
    « Reply #3 on: May 15, 2013, 09:57:22 AM »
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  • Fr Pfeiffer is not giving "performances" and hoping people buy a ticket and show up.

    He's being asked to come to these places.  In some cases, begged.  

    Not much of a rock star.

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    Is their a rock star syndrome among traditional priests?
    « Reply #4 on: May 15, 2013, 10:15:47 AM »
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  • Quote from: sedetrad
    It seems that certain “traditional priests” have the need to travel the world and become “rock stars”. The SSPX seems to be immune to this syndrome. The CMRI seems to be immune to this syndrome. The dynamic duo out in sedeland in Cincinnati seem to suffer from this syndrome. It seems that Father Pheiffer may be suffering from this also. What happened to doing your duty as a parish priest in humility? Why the need to travel across the world? I find this troubling. Granted, the majority of trad priests do not suffer from this, but it seems a very real small minority do. Please feel free to critique or comment.


    Maybe you prefer the subtlety of Joel Jagger Osteen or Rick Wakeman Warren?



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    Is their a rock star syndrome among traditional priests?
    « Reply #5 on: May 15, 2013, 10:23:26 AM »
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    It seems that certain “traditional priests” have the need to travel the world and become “rock stars”. The SSPX seems to be immune to this syndrome. The CMRI seems to be immune to this syndrome. The dynamic duo out in sedeland in Cincinnati seem to suffer from this syndrome. It seems that Father Pheiffer may be suffering from this also. What happened to doing your duty as a parish priest in humility? Why the need to travel across the world? I find this troubling. Granted, the majority of trad priests do not suffer from this, but it seems a very real small minority do. Please feel free to critique or comment.


    What a ridiculous post. First, publicly referring to ordained priests of God as "the dynamic duo" is disrespectful and scandalous. Doing this publicly is no doubt a mortal sin.

    Second, there are people all over the world in desperate need of priests and the Sacraments. If priests travel to fulfill their needs for Mass and Sacraments, you accuse them of being rock stars and lacking in humility? You've completely lost the plot.


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    « Reply #6 on: May 15, 2013, 10:50:53 AM »
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    The dynamic duo out in sedeland...


    Yeah, I've heard that same reference on IA from Tony The Hammer Malleus.  Always referred to Fr Pfeiffer or Fr Chazall as 'superheroes.'  

    I didn't know there was a kind of 'be-paid-by-the-talking-point' thing going on.

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    « Reply #7 on: May 15, 2013, 10:59:20 AM »
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    Yeah, I've heard that same reference on IA from Tony The Hammer Malleus.  Always referred to Fr Pfeiffer or Fr Chazall as 'superheroes.'  

    I didn't know there was a kind of 'be-paid-by-the-talking-point' thing going on.


    Is "Tony the Hammer" Father Cekada? This is the first time that I have been accused of being a paid shill. My post count is far too low for that to be lucrative.


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    Is their a rock star syndrome among traditional priests?
    « Reply #8 on: May 15, 2013, 11:05:34 AM »
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  • I don't know. I very much enjoy Fr. Cekada's books, videos, and pamphlets. Work of Human Hands is really good and, honestly, anyone who feels comfortable now at the NOM probably won't afterward if they read the book. However, I've often felt a slight sense of "cultishness" from the SGG group. I could be wrong, of course, and I'm sorry if I am, but that's what I feel. Additionally, Bishop Sanborn is one of the best orators I've ever heard. I think the "rock star" label might be a bit unfair. Fr. Cekada, for example, wants to get his message out and therefore has to use the internet to do so. I look at it more as a missionary endeavor. If people look upon him as a rock star, that's on them.

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    « Reply #9 on: May 15, 2013, 11:11:34 AM »
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  • Seems that "rock star" means "won't be bought and sold to the highest bidder".  

    Frs. Pfeiffer, Hewko, Chazal, et al will NOT be the victims of trusteeism.  We are not, after all, protestants, are we?

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    « Reply #10 on: May 15, 2013, 11:27:05 AM »
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    Yeah, I've heard that same reference on IA from Tony The Hammer Malleus.  Always referred to Fr Pfeiffer or Fr Chazall as 'superheroes.'  

    I didn't know there was a kind of 'be-paid-by-the-talking-point' thing going on.


    Is "Tony the Hammer" Father Cekada? This is the first time that I have been accused of being a paid shill. My post count is far too low for that to be lucrative.


     :read-paper:  Says the guy with over 1600 posts...

    Sede, no one pointed a finger at you and called you a paid shill.  But I must say, your response reminds me of the bank robber who gets pulled over for speeding and tells the cop "I didn't rob that bank."


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    « Reply #11 on: May 15, 2013, 11:35:58 AM »
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    Yeah, I've heard that same reference on IA from Tony The Hammer Malleus.  Always referred to Fr Pfeiffer or Fr Chazall as 'superheroes.'  

    I didn't know there was a kind of 'be-paid-by-the-talking-point' thing going on.


    Is "Tony the Hammer" Father Cekada? This is the first time that I have been accused of being a paid shill. My post count is far too low for that to be lucrative.


    No, he's refering to Anthony Malleus, IA's most charitable poster (NOT!).
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #12 on: May 15, 2013, 12:08:31 PM »
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    1600 posts
    Those post were made over a period of six years. If I were a shill, my post count would be more in league with Tele's. I am not accusing Tele of being a shill.

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    « Reply #13 on: May 15, 2013, 12:10:27 PM »
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    of 'be-paid-by-the-talking-point'

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    Sede, no one pointed a finger at you and called you a paid shill.


    I guess I misconstrued the above.

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    « Reply #14 on: May 15, 2013, 01:46:01 PM »
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  • If you meet Father Pfeiffer in person you'll see he's more personable than his sermons suggest.  He seems to do better in his conferences.  Sometimes his sermons are better than other times.

    The travel is pretty much a necessity given the nature of the apostolate.

    In fact Father Pfeiffer really wishes there were more resistance priests willing to travel.