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Offline Iuvenalis

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Is the military a good career choice?
« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2013, 02:19:11 AM »
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    You will find the sea of immorality just about wherever you go. God has given us the grace to be Catholic and we have to live that holiness that God calls us to. And who knows who you could be a vehicle of conversion for?  


    I clearly acknowledged that he millitary is not the only job where one will find immoral coworkers, but I explained the ways in which it is uniquely suited to inculcating a depraved *lifestyle*

    I have asked before, what is your first language?

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    « Reply #16 on: September 13, 2013, 11:49:34 AM »
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    Honestly, the military is the best gig going for any young man that doesn't have appropriate connections to obtain employment after college.


    I agree with you sedetrad.


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    « Reply #17 on: September 13, 2013, 11:59:41 AM »
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    I would discourage the military as an option, unless you wanted to excel at some exclusive military skill like flying a fighter jet or some military activity.  



    Someone advised me the opposite was true. He said for every pilot in the air there are  200 people supporting it. He said get a math or engineering degree and go in the AF, they have the nicest facilities for families.

    I wish my former husband would have joined the Army. After college he did require service in his native country's military and the same position here was really in demand.

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    « Reply #18 on: September 13, 2013, 12:01:24 PM »
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    I would discourage the military as an option, unless you wanted to excel at some exclusive military skill like flying a fighter jet or some military activity.  



    Someone advised me the opposite was true. He said for every pilot in the air there are  200 people supporting it. He said get a math or engineering degree and go in the AF, they have the nicest facilities for families.

    I wish my former husband would have joined the Army. After college he did require service in his native country's military and the same position here was really in demand.


    What country is that?  I didn't know there was mandatory service--is it a draft?

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    « Reply #19 on: September 13, 2013, 12:12:28 PM »
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  • Not a draft for war but mandatory service. He is close to 50 so this was some time ago, have no idea what it's like now.


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    « Reply #20 on: September 13, 2013, 12:30:20 PM »
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  • Tiffany,

    What I said, or meant to say, that if someone wanted to excel at something (like being a fighter pilot or shooting someone in the head from 400 yards away) then the military would be a place to do such a thing.  The best flyers in the world are in the military so if a guy wanted to excel at such a thing, the Navy or Air Force would be the place.  As for target practice with a rifle, the NRA marksmen are probably a big step up from military snipers in shooting proficiency.  

    Yes, 200 people to support one wasteful fly guy.  I am fully aware of all the fraud, waste and abuse in the military in addition to the moral repulsiveness.  From a purely material point of view, the military is a very nice deal - good pay, little real responsibility, great benefits and a great retirement plan.




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    « Reply #21 on: September 13, 2013, 12:35:57 PM »
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  • He knew our situation and was just advising what would be a good path for my son as a young adult.

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    « Reply #22 on: September 13, 2013, 12:41:42 PM »
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    I would discourage the military as an option, unless you wanted to excel at some exclusive military skill like flying a fighter jet or some military activity.  



    Someone advised me the opposite was true. He said for every pilot in the air there are  200 people supporting it. He said get a math or engineering degree and go in the AF, they have the nicest facilities for families.

    I wish my former husband would have joined the Army. After college he did require service in his native country's military and the same position here was really in demand.


    What country is that?  I didn't know there was mandatory service--is it a draft?


    Many countries, even today, still have a peacetime draft.  However, some permit draftees to perform some time of alternative service in lieu of military service.  For example, in Austria all men must serve in the military for six months when they reach 18 years old, or they can choose to do some type of civilian service for nine months (e.g. working in a retirement home, hospital, etc.).  Other European countries that have a peacetime draft include Greece, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Norway, Russia, and Switzerland.


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    « Reply #23 on: September 13, 2013, 12:50:17 PM »
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    He knew our situation and was just advising what would be a good path for my son as a young adult.


    I hope it all worked out for your son.  

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    « Reply #24 on: September 13, 2013, 10:06:41 PM »
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  • Remember, the military is not a democracy. You take and obey orders
    without question.
    You will have carry out orders that may be against Church teachings and
    and your correct formed Christian Catholic conscience.
    If there is sin is involved, you are not excused.

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    « Reply #25 on: September 13, 2013, 10:55:25 PM »
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  • I would advise anyone considering taking Obamugabe's dollar (from the old expression, taking the King's shilling) to research depleted uranium. It's used in all sorts of munitions now & has a drastic effect on the probable life expectancy of those who breathe it.


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    « Reply #26 on: September 14, 2013, 09:24:04 AM »
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  • You question is if it makes a good career?  To that I couldn't help but say no, since you'll be moving all the time and away from your family.  

    I wouldn't want to go at all because I wouldn't want to swear an oath to defend the country's laws, which are godless and liberal.  
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    « Reply #27 on: September 14, 2013, 09:41:54 AM »
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       Hi, as you can see I'm new. I have been looking for advice everywhere on what to do with my life as I am graduating next year. I have always planned on joining the Air Force but because of recent events(i.e. Syria, gay marriage, ect.) I am thinking that the military is not what it once was and if I were to go to war would I be justified? I have been considering something like firefighter or EMT or even the coast guard instead of the Air Force. I want a job that is not the 'corporate slave' type but that is also morally good. My father and I talk about it and we both agreed that a combat job in the military would be wrong, but would a combat medic job be bad or some other support type job?

      Since I am new I will give you a bit of backround. I am homeschooled, I live on a farm with goats and chickens, I serve Mass, I am the oldest of 10, I used to play Lacrosse as a Goalie, and thats about it.


    Hello and welcome to the forum!

    I have no practical advice for you, as I am entrapped in the day-to-day race of making ends meet with any labor or service I can do, having to face the cascade of failures that have made my former academic career a nostalgic joke. I am therefore in no position to offer counsel to a young man when it comes such matters.

    The only advice I have to give is the one you have probably been given before: prayer.

    I recommend devotion to the Miraculous Infant of Prague, as various miracles have been wrought by Our Lord through this devotion that specifically pertain to the subject of vocation, of how to conform to God's will with the rest of our lives.

    Here's something that may help, from Lord God: A Book of Prayers for Boys and Young Men authored by Dom Hubert Van Zeller (London: Burns Oates & Washbourne, Ltd., 1936):


    Please ignore all that I have written regarding sedevacantism.

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    Is the military a good career choice?
    « Reply #28 on: September 14, 2013, 09:47:59 AM »
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    Even as a noncombatant, the military is a sea of immorality, sex, even drugs, and women in the service are implicitly encouraged to be (and often are) whorish.

    You should not seek a wife there unless you find quite the exception.

    The military is not interested in your desire to access *Catholic* sacraments or clergy. You will, at least, have access to a 'chaplain' who may or may not be a Catholic, and they need not even provide you with Catholic 'Mass', and will tell you your spiritual needs are accommodated by the offering of a non-denominational "Christian" service.

    This may or many not happen, but be aware it is a possibility. This particularly complicated confessions as well.

    Lastly, you will have to endure immoral men in your unit, who will be the norm, as well as an insistence you tolerate now-open homosexuality.

    These things would be true of almost any job, although the military magnifies these issues of immoral, unCatholic coworkers by also controlling where you live and in what situation you live (until you decide to get your own apartment off base).

    So, it can be endured. You'll have to endure the world eventually anyway, but the military is different from being a waiter at a Chili's while you work your way through a community college, because you can go *home* at the end of the day instead of rooming with degenerates (possibly, although there are good people who are not Godless in the military). You can attend Mass on Sunday if you work at a restuarant, retail store, fast food, etc. The military you may get deployed and have to rely on the Mass options (or lack thereof possibly) available where they deploy you.

    So, it has pluses and minuses. You will certainly make more money in the military from a lifestyle perspective  than you will working entry level jobs while you go to a junior college.

    Another option is a skilled trade apprenticeship. People say these require connections, and while knowing someone in a trade union helps, you can get an apprenticeship through diligence, especially since most entrants into apprenticeships "washout", that is, they do not finish because they are unmotivated or uninterested.

    You can literally call unions and/or go to their websites to inquire about apprenticeships, or ask a local licensed tradesman (depending on the state you live in) if they'll take an apprentice or know someone who is.

    There are more than plumbing, electrician and carpenter.

    There are millwright, elevator mechanic (the highest paid bar none), structural steel, various portworkers like the longshoreman, boilermakers, etc all of which have unions and training programs.

    Good luck, and pray for St. Joseph's intercession. Set yourself up to be able to afford a family by getting a skill.

    You will find the sea of immorality just about wherever you go. God has given us the grace to be Catholic and we have to live that holiness that God calls us to. And who knows who you could be a vehicle of conversion for?  


    "Try and be a witness to the Catholic Faith to your buddies while you're killing women and children in the name of Freemasonry and Zionism."

    Great advice, poche.

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    « Reply #29 on: September 14, 2013, 09:52:11 AM »
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    I would discourage the military as an option, unless you wanted to excel at some exclusive military skill like flying a fighter jet or some military activity.  



    Someone advised me the opposite was true. He said for every pilot in the air there are  200 people supporting it. He said get a math or engineering degree and go in the AF, they have the nicest facilities for families.

    I wish my former husband would have joined the Army. After college he did require service in his native country's military and the same position here was really in demand.


    Of course, he'd have been directly or indirectly murdering people who were never a threat to him at the behest of Israel and the Internationalist Cabal, but hey, money is money.


     

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