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Author Topic: Is the CMRI a sect?  (Read 7433 times)

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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Is the CMRI a sect?
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2020, 06:11:44 PM »
But someone would need to sincerely want to know the truth for that.
Sadly, you speak the truth.

Re: Is the CMRI a sect?
« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2020, 04:28:09 PM »
I've just gotten the chance to start listening to the 2019 Fatima Conference talks (CDs can be purchased through the CMRI website: http://www.cmri.org/fatima-conference-2019-recordings.shtml).  

I would like to quote Bishop Pivarunas from his talk.  He was discussing what was going on with the CMRI now concerning the growth of traditional Catholicism.  Though this is a short quote, what is said IS in context:

Bishop Pivarunas:
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We’re not the only ones who are practicing the Catholic Faith, the Traditional Catholic Faith.  There are other groups.  We’re not THE Catholic Faith.  We’re part of the Catholic Church, but we’re not THE Catholic Church.

The emphasis was in the original talk by the bishop.  For those who seem to think that the CMRI believes it is the Church and all who are outside the CMRI are outside the Church, I hope this corrects your misconception.  If reading the words of the Superior General of the Congregation does correct what you think, then your "ignorance" is not in good faith and you are an evil person.


Re: Is the CMRI a sect?
« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2020, 05:07:21 PM »
I've just gotten the chance to start listening to the 2019 Fatima Conference talks (CDs can be purchased through the CMRI website: http://www.cmri.org/fatima-conference-2019-recordings.shtml).  

I would like to quote Bishop Pivarunas from his talk.  He was discussing what was going on with the CMRI now concerning the growth of traditional Catholicism.  Though this is a short quote, what is said IS in context:

Bishop Pivarunas:
The emphasis was in the original talk by the bishop.  For those who seem to think that the CMRI believes it is the Church and all who are outside the CMRI are outside the Church, I hope this corrects your misconception.  If reading the words of the Superior General of the Congregation does correct what you think, then your "ignorance" is not in good faith and you are an evil person.
I think you meant does *not* correct, right?

Offline DecemRationis

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Re: Is the CMRI a sect?
« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2020, 05:39:06 PM »
The CMRI does not, as a rule, refuse communion to anyone who believes he is a Catholic in the state of grace but, obviously, does try to educate people who have not come to the sedevacantist position.  [An individual would, of course, be refused communion if he was a notorious public heretic/sinner--say, was wearing a "gαy pride" pin or known to be by all to be an "abortion-rights" advocate.  The CMRI would not consider a person who attends an "una cuм" Mass or has not come to the sedevacantist position to be a "public heretic/sinner".]

This accords with what I heard Gerry Matatics say in one of his talks.

I think that is the correct, Catholic position. Kudos to the CMRI.

Re: Is the CMRI a sect?
« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2020, 06:15:41 PM »
I think you meant does *not* correct, right?
Yes.  Thanks for catching it.  I re-wrote the sentence three times trying to get it right...and still messed it up!