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Sometime in the early 1900's (20th century) some official publication came out with a revised version of the La Salette message where the sentence about Rome losing the faith and becoming the seat of the Antichrist was REMOVED.  Ever since then, there has been controversy over whether it was ever "approved" or not, since once approved, it should not be up for new unapproval.  Correct?  

Correct.  

Remember, in 1962 some creepy guys of the same stripe "removed" St. Philomena from the calendar.   Their excuse was that insufficient evidence could be found for her existence.  That's a good example of a half-truth, which by the way, is a whole lie.  

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Why is the previous poster asking for the oldest version when Neil Obstat already gave us this info in a previous post? (I am not tech savvy, so this is the best I can do.)

Here are some links I found.

The one from Pope in Red is interesting.  Since a source is actually listed you may try that avenue.

Secret of La Salette

This also is interesting because the author includes the original, then says the original is actually a second copy.  He then clarifies the 1879 version listed above as actually something Melanie added later after she became discontent with cloistered life and the faithless clergy around her.  It is claimed that she was forbidden to write anything else after 1880 and later her writing was placed on the Index of Prohibited Books in the 1920s.

The "Authentic" Message of La Salette


When asked the very question you ask over at TIA, there response was this:  ".....Many persons contest the authenticity of the last message of Melanie, who--they say--would have added her own ideas to it....  The difficulty in distinguishing between the authentic words of Our Lady and the additions of Melanie would be one of the reasons why the Holy See allowed the faithful to read these prophecies, but forbade them to comment on it.  This is also the main argument of many bishops against La Salette.....  We do not know of a particular person who could help you to explain it in more detail..."


In other words, we may never really know what Our Lady exactly said to Melanie.


But does one really need to this to be Melanie's secret?  It's no longer a secret, is it?  Anyone with eyes can see that Rome has lost the faith.

Nadir (and everyone) - Have found an on-line copy of The Holy Mountain by Arch. Ullathorne.  Am reading it now.

 http://books.google.com/books?id=OF0BAAAAQAAJ&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false

Cath Mom, Nadir & everyone - I just finished the Holy Mountain by Arch. Ullathorne.  He covers his own trip to LaSalette and talks with the children.  He goes as far as how the original writing of the secrets came about, how they got to Pius IX, and his reaction.  Melanie indicates somewhat that Our Lady has communicated with her since the original apparition.  In other things I have read in the past day or two, it seems that as time went on, and maybe with Our Lady's further permission (as Our Lady had said would have to happen), the "secret(s)" became longer, i.e., the children let out more of them.  (By the way, I was mistaken in an earlier post to say Lecce was Italy, as it is in France.)  Melanie seems, if the translations of her further commentaries and writings are correct, to be quite "balanced," pious.  Due to the nature of the secrets, it makes sense that she would be persecuted and calumniated, her enemies being the forbears of those we are dealing with now.  I have not seen a copy of the rules for the religious order of which Our Lady speaks.  But as you say, indeed, we know something is terribly, horribly wrong in the Church and with those in charge in Rome, whether or not Our Lady said "Rome will lose the Faith..." etc. This statement is not in the original secret given to Pius IX.  It is in later elaborations of the secret, as apparently, Our Lady gives permission to Melanie to "let out" more.  I wish that some capable, trustworthy traditionalist - a priest or otherwise - would be able to get the originals of all the texts up to the death of Melanie, and render accurate, chronological versions of them.  But in any case, this has been most interesting and worthwhile an investigation.    

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Sometime in the early 1900's (20th century) some official publication came out with a revised version of the La Salette message where the sentence about Rome losing the faith and becoming the seat of the Antichrist was REMOVED.  Ever since then, there has been controversy over whether it was ever "approved" or not, since once approved, it should not be up for new unapproval.  Correct?  

Correct.  

Remember, in 1962 some creepy guys of the same stripe "removed" St. Philomena from the calendar.   Their excuse was that insufficient evidence could be found for her existence.  That's a good example of a half-truth, which by the way, is a whole lie.  

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Why is the previous poster asking for the oldest version when Neil Obstat already gave us this info in a previous post? (I am not tech savvy, so this is the best I can do.)

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