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I don't think it's a good idea to debate with some of the posters here. If one is not all there psychologically AND has been frequenting White Supremacist sites, it's just too much of a toxic cocktail to deal with on an internet forum.

There's no need to get angry or frustrated. The people in question need help and guidance, but not from lay people.

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To believe that everyone is equal and the same is communism Clare.

Well, it's just as well I don't believe everyone is equal or the same.

I don't believe that all whites are equal or the same, or that all non-whites are equal or the same, or that all people are equal or the same.

I don't believe that all whites are superior to all blacks, or that all blacks are superior to all whites. Some blacks and some whites are superior to me (who am white), and some are inferior to me. I can't necessarily tell who are superior and who are inferior, so it seems best to err on the side of reckoning people in general as superior to me. He who exalts himself will be humbled, and vice versa, as Our Lord said.

I do know, though, that a black or white priest can absolve my sins, and a black or white layman cannot. I do know that a black or white bishop can ordain a black or white priest.

People are not equal, but inequalities are not conveniently colour-coded.

Explain why it is you believe this about how there is no such thing as racial superiority.

I say that the white race is superior because we are the descendants of the Israelites, and the Israelites have always been favored by God since the Everlasting covenant in Genesis 17:7. God has used Europeans to accomplish many great things. He used us to spread His Church to the rest of the world, we have developed many great technologies that have made the world a better place, etc. etc. etc.

There have been other cultures that have been impressive, but they were all paganistic and did not last nearly as long as ours. God still loves them too, its just that He favors us more than them. Kinda like how God chose humans to rule over the animals because he favors humans more so.

Thats great that you are white. You should be proud of who you are.

Dude, what's your problem? Are you even Catholic? There is only one Everlasting Covenant and we here about daily at Mass during the Consecration of the wine into the Blood of our Lord Jesus Christ. Now I say that while actually agreeing with some of your points about the mixing of race. You and George T, are taking things way too far. Hence you are both falling into error. Kind of like going over a cliff.

You seem to be exhibiting the same racial superiority that the Jews have always had and it resembles very closely the same error that the nαzιs had in Germany. Too bad they couldn't just clean up their act from the depravity of the '20s and return to Christ.

They had to believe that they were not only racially superior as whites, but the cream of the crop among the Caucasian races. The Aryans who were superior to the Slavs who were meant to be their slaves after they stole their land and wiped out who they did not want. It is a short trip to this view, my friend.

Getting back to the Everlasting Covenant you keep quoting out of Genesis 17, you may want to have a look at the reading from the 3rd Lesson of the First Nocturn of today's Feast, The Sacred Heart of Jesus.

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Jer 31:1-3; 31:31-33

1 At that time, saith the Lord, I will be the God of all the families of Israel, and they shall be my people.

2 Thus saith the Lord: The people that were left and escaped from the sword, found grace in the desert: Israel shall go to his rest.

3 The Lord hath appeared from afar to me. Yea I have loved thee with an everlasting love, therefore have I drawn thee, taking pity on thee.

31 Behold the days shall come, saith the Lord, and I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Juda:

32 Not according to the covenant which I made with their fathers, in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt: the covenant which they made void, and I had dominion over them, saith the Lord.

33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel, after those days, saith the Lord: I will give my law in their bowels, and I will write it in their heart: and I will be their God, and they shall be my people.

Yes, White Europeans have been superior. But they have also managed to mess it all up. The same White Europeans that you worship, that you think are from the House of Israel, also embraced the Protestant Revolt, Darwinism, Nihilism, and whacked out German philosophy that did its greatest destruction in the Rhine flowing into the Tiber at Vatican II.

But the reason for the approximately good thousand years of Christendom in Europe was Grace and cooperation with God. That made this people great and ordered correctly with God. This brought about technologies that were used in compliance with God's wishes.

You sound like you are a devotee of Christian Identity. All these people manage to do is to hate Jews for racial reasons and to say they are the true Jews. I can't think of a more pathetic philosophy.

You have heard of supercessionism, have you not?

Now I do agree that there should be no reason for race mixing. And from the standpoint of being a Traditionalist and not a Modernist, one should realize that we were not meant to be moving about the earth like freight and commerce. I think the plan was to Baptize all Nations but pretty much remain where we were. Having this understanding, you would think that a Traditional Catholic should be able to find another Traditional Catholic of the same race to marry. I mean seriously, how hard can this be? We are people who travel great distances to Mass. Is it really that hard to find a mate of the same race and religion?

As far as Detroit goes and the other large industrial Northern cities in the US, this was engineered by Jews and Prots to break up Ethnic Catholic Neighborhoods. The blacks were victims also in this and the bishops were asleep at the switch and had no idea this was going on as White Flight was really Ethnic Catholic Flight.

At the same time, I can't believe the embrace of Liberalism here by my other super-Traditionalist brethren here. You do know that the Irish and Poles looked at each other with distrust to give one example. Most of us whose forefathers were Catholic for a thousand years or more, were moved to Protestant Suburbs to a new Mass in an era of unbelievable change in roles of women, a sɛҳuąƖ revolution, and to begin the primer of accepting multi-culturism.

Knowing this, or at least feeling this, as all Traditionalists with more than one usable brain cell must feel, it would behoove them to settle down and try their very best to just marry among their own and have the good sense to just shut up about it.

Yeah, and marry and have lots of babies for evangelization and for the preservation of your race and culture at the same time. So get busy having babies if you already haven't. And make sure you raise your children to do the same. Some might disappoint you, but that is all that needs to be done.

You are correct to see the Jews as the most formidable enemy and the enemy most in need of conversion. But when you start talking this racial nonsense and that we are really Israel and God's chosen by race, you become a clown.

We are all Israel, all who are in the Catholic Church. And that goes for any race in our Universal Church.

Yes I am Catholic. I think what you are trying to say is that the Mosaic Covenant which was talked about in Exodus (and you passage from Jeremiah) was not obeyed by the Israelites and become obsolete. This covenant was the covenant that was later replaced by Christ. It was not an everlasting covenant. The same holds true today, with the New Covenant, that we must follow it in order for us to remain in God's bosom. Otherwise we will be cut off from the Lord.

The covenant that establishes the Israelites as God's chosen is the Abrahamic covenant in Genesis 17:7. That was an everlasting, unconditional covenant. There is nothing that can break that covenant since it is everlasting.

Another verse that supports the everlasting covenant still being in effect would be Romans 11:1-2:

Romans 11:1-2
I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? May it never be! For I too am an Israelite, a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel?

Not to mention, Peter and the apostles are still in the mindset of jew and gentile throughout the New Testament.

Did you read the prophecy of St. Caesar of Arles? He refers to the French Kings as a "Holy Race". Case closed.

I don't think it's a good idea to debate with some of the posters here. If one is not all there psychologically AND has been frequenting White Supremacist sites, it's just too much of a toxic cocktail to deal with on an internet forum.

There's no need to get angry or frustrated. The people in question need help and guidance, but not from lay people.

When people start tossing around the idea that someone is mentally ill because of their beliefs, then you know that they have been backed into a corner and are becoming vindictive.