Anyway, this is false: Even Jone imputed sin (venial) to those who commit this act.
He did nothing of the sort. He simply said it was NOT GRAVE. It was I who added that it was likely venial in nearly all cases. And when I say that one can safely follow the opinion, I didn't say that one could necessarily safely practice the activity in question without sin, just that one could follow the teaching that it was NOT GRAVE, as he said.
Sean, you bumble, fumble, confused, and conflate things so badly that it's impossible to have a rational conversation with you, which is why you end up constantly emoting.