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Offline LaramieHirsch

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Is everyone enjoying the rioting
« on: November 26, 2014, 05:33:43 AM »
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  • Everyone enjoying the post-Ferguson rioting?  

    I'm sure it's not affecting anyone's neighborhood on this forum.  It's mostly either targeted in "minority" communities, or it's organized protesters targeting particular landmarks.  And, all in all, tonight's nonsense is probably going to blow over without notice.  

    Still, thuggish blacks of the United States are enjoying the free reign and tolerated social dominance that white liberals afford them.  

    It is precisely what I am talking about here that needs discussion.  Some fools like Sharpton will say "this country needs a discussion about race."  But if someone actually starts talking about just how corrupted the game is and how blacks are encouraged to spread their thuggery, the valve of conversation is shut off.  

    I say America deserves to drown in its stupidity if it can't handle this kind of discussion, and I'm glad the natives of Europe are fast realizing the affects of so-called multiculturalism.  If only we in America had the courage to be honest about it as well.  


    Here's a gem of an article I found this evening.  A blog post, really:

    Blacks and the Domination of Social Space

    My favorite parts?  Right about here:

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    For blacks, dominating and acting out in public, social space is an end in itself. It is about power and control for them. And they are very successful at it, because any space where a black person appears will mostly be controlled by that black person- they will intimidate whites and Asians in that space, although maybe not Latinos.

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    One black will not be challenged because whites rely on general social pressure to enforce most rules, rarely confronting people directly. Two or more blacks will not be challenged, because blacks play off and reinforce each other, and challenging them will most certainly result in a loud, angry confrontation. Challenge three blacks and physical violence is almost probable.

    Blacks in social space are in their kingdom, but every kingdom has borders that must be jealously protected. Surrender is frequently the strategy. Too many blacks, and whites leave. Blacks are the reason for the demise of the indoor mall. In the ghetto, authorities tolerate and accept this kind of behavior, because most of the residents are black and the community supports it.



    What a vibrant society we have, eh?  

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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle


    Offline Immaculata001

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    Is everyone enjoying the rioting
    « Reply #1 on: November 26, 2014, 10:15:29 AM »
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  • I believe C_____ is a term White Supremacists use because they believe those of us who are Black are subhuman?
    "But 'tis strange:
    And oftentimes, to win us to our harm,
    The instruments of darkness tell us truths,
    Win us with honest trifles, to betray's
    In deepest consequence.." Banquo, from Shakespeare's Macbeth


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    « Reply #2 on: November 26, 2014, 10:36:24 AM »
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  • I moderated the OP and renamed the thread.
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    « Reply #3 on: November 26, 2014, 10:42:54 AM »
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  • Referring to all black people as "chimps" is uncharitable and not reflective of a Catholic attitude toward race.

    That said, referring to people who behave in a bestial manner with a bestial epithet is not at all contrary to charity - it is merely pointing out what is obvious. And black people (in America at least) have shown a disporortionately high propensity toward bestial behavior.  

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    « Reply #4 on: November 26, 2014, 10:54:45 AM »
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  • Matthew, thank you.  I cringed when I saw the original title.

    Immaculata001, I've always admired your ability to detach from unnecessary (and in most cases, unintentional due to ignorance) insult.  Your responses to this particular style of comment are always Catholic. (I saw your response before edit). You set a good example for all.

    Logically, we cannot have a discussion on this topic without ruthless honesty, but let's remain objective, without pejoratives, always framing our discussion in the faith.   A secular discussion is a waste of time and a modernist approach.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 26, 2014, 11:11:49 AM »
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  • Quote from: BTNYC
    Referring to all black people as "chimps" is uncharitable and not reflective of a Catholic attitude toward race.

    That said, referring to people who behave in a bestial manner with a bestial epithet is not at all contrary to charity - it is merely pointing out what is obvious. And black people (in America at least) have shown a disporortionately high propensity toward bestial behavior.  


    There doesn't seem any need to call it bestial -- American Blacks are hypersensitive in a way that those of us Blacks from other countries are not. It would incite rage because it recalls a time when Blacks were thought to be subhuman.

    It might be better to call the conduct criminal and anti-social, because it is. IMO, the criminality in the American Black community is happening because of the destruction of their families, which is unprecedented globally, and never existed in Black Africa. Morals, restraint, decency, and ethics are not being modeled by fathers (their fathers model criminality and irresponsiblity). The mothers take on a masculine role in earning and likewise in behavior.

    This is a catastrophe. I've worked with Black youths and have seen it first hand. They will be imprisoned at higher and higher rates because of the extreme aggression and anti-social impulses they show. They will become increasingly unemployable and isolated, and it will be everyone's problem, which is why it should be addressed by people of all races.
    "But 'tis strange:
    And oftentimes, to win us to our harm,
    The instruments of darkness tell us truths,
    Win us with honest trifles, to betray's
    In deepest consequence.." Banquo, from Shakespeare's Macbeth

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    « Reply #6 on: November 26, 2014, 11:40:19 AM »
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  • Quote from: Immaculata001
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    Referring to all black people as "chimps" is uncharitable and not reflective of a Catholic attitude toward race.

    That said, referring to people who behave in a bestial manner with a bestial epithet is not at all contrary to charity - it is merely pointing out what is obvious. And black people (in America at least) have shown a disporortionately high propensity toward bestial behavior.  


    There doesn't seem any need to call it bestial -- American Blacks are hypersensitive in a way that those of us Blacks from other countries are not. It would incite rage because it recalls a time when Blacks were thought to be subhuman.

    It might be better to call the conduct criminal and anti-social, because it is. IMO, the criminality in the American Black community is happening because of the destruction of their families, which is unprecedented globally, and never existed in Black Africa. Morals, restraint, decency, and ethics are not being modeled by fathers (their fathers model criminality and irresponsiblity). The mothers take on a masculine role in earning and likewise in behavior.

    This is a catastrophe. I've worked with Black youths and have seen it first hand. They will be imprisoned at higher and higher rates because of the extreme aggression and anti-social impulses they show. They will become increasingly unemployable and isolated, and it will be everyone's problem, which is why it should be addressed by people of all races.


    Animals are not rational. They are driven by instinct and appetite.

    Men who are enslaved to their appetitive passions degrade themselves to behavior that is by very definition bestial, and there is nothing wrong with calling it such - St. Thomas Aquinas certainly never shied away from the term.

    "Bestial" is more accurate because not all criminal activity is bestial (usury and embezzlement for example) and not all bestial behavior is criminal (fornication, bastardy, gluttony). Not, to be sure, black people do not have a monopoly on bestial behavior, every preson is suceptible due to the effects of Original Sin. But in this nation at least (where I was born and have lived all my life and thus can speak with some authority) blacks show a disproportionate propensity for all kinds of bestial behavior. This is due to a number of different factors, including, the mass migration from the rural south to the industrialized north, the subsequent destruction of the family from unemployment, enslavement to welfare programs, persistent exposure to the "noble victimhood" propaganda (all of which is the result of more than a century of Jєωιѕн meddling and scheming) as well as, it must be admitted, certain deep-rooted cultural mores and perhaps even racial disadvantages with respect to natural intelligence (and there is nothing "racist" or anti Catholic about pointing out the plain truth that races have such weaknesses and strengths).

    But I'll do no wringing of my hands over "hurting the feelings" of anyone whom the terms accurately describe. As I said when some here parroted the liberal talking points about "Charity" when it came to the use of derrogatory epithets for Sodomites - obscuring the truth over concern for "sensitivites" is never charitable.

    Darwinian racial theories are, of course, incompatible with Catholicism. But racial predjudices are not evil per se, but are pretty universal, natural and even healthy. "Racism" is not the big, bad bogeyman that the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan demands us to believe that it is.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 26, 2014, 11:51:39 AM »
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  • Quote from: Immaculata001
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    Referring to all black people as "chimps" is uncharitable and not reflective of a Catholic attitude toward race.

    That said, referring to people who behave in a bestial manner with a bestial epithet is not at all contrary to charity - it is merely pointing out what is obvious. And black people (in America at least) have shown a disporortionately high propensity toward bestial behavior.  


    There doesn't seem any need to call it bestial -- American Blacks are hypersensitive in a way that those of us Blacks from other countries are not. It would incite rage because it recalls a time when Blacks were thought to be subhuman.

    It might be better to call the conduct criminal and anti-social, because it is. IMO, the criminality in the American Black community is happening because of the destruction of their families, which is unprecedented globally, and never existed in Black Africa. Morals, restraint, decency, and ethics are not being modeled by fathers (their fathers model criminality and irresponsiblity). The mothers take on a masculine role in earning and likewise in behavior.

    This is a catastrophe. I've worked with Black youths and have seen it first hand. They will be imprisoned at higher and higher rates because of the extreme aggression and anti-social impulses they show. They will become increasingly unemployable and isolated, and it will be everyone's problem, which is why it should be addressed by people of all races.


    I see both of your points, but to be fair to BTNYC, as far as I'm concerned whether it's a group of blacks, or some other group of people rioting I still think they're acting like animals.  You would think that if this sort of behavior makes them look like animals and it incites rage to be considered sub-human (again), they just wouldn't do it.  And this happens over and over again.  Maybe if it didn't get the reaction it gets from certain folks, they'd stop doing it.  Honestly.  
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    « Reply #8 on: November 26, 2014, 11:57:38 AM »
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  • Other than Darren Wilson being a white cop that shot a black man, I don't see how it had anything to do with race. The demonstrators should have focused  their attention on the "shoot-first mentality"  by police.   Liberals taught blacks that using race is the best way to get heard. I think that is the main reason why many white people turn a deaf ear to their concerns.

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    « Reply #9 on: November 26, 2014, 12:27:53 PM »
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  • These protests actually began before the story got out about the shooting so I am convinced that a large portion of the violence is being incited by leftist organizations who chose St Louis for a revolution.

    The actual violence is located in a small location that is run down and not well cared for by the locals who live.

    It would be nice to have an honest conversation about race, one that isn't one way.  

    These rioters couldn't care less about the truth of the case and they have routinely shown a lack of concern for facts.  In the age of the internet, a lot of these stories are shown to be lies, i.e., the gentle giant story and the saga of St. Skittles.

    The good news is that the violence will blow over in a few days or weeks.

    The bad news is that taxes will have to go up if were going to continually pay more and more for a class of people who already are 35% of the welfare rolls while only being 15% of the population.  

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    « Reply #10 on: November 26, 2014, 12:39:18 PM »
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  • Quote from: Immaculata001
    I believe C_____ is a term White Supremacists use because they believe those of us who are Black are subhuman?


    That term is derogatory but let's examine the behavior of the participants (who the term actually applies to and not all "blacks"), shall we?  It's really not that hard.  Separate yourself from your race (blasphemy, right?) and ask if smashing windows and burning cars because a cop shot a 300 lb kid that was grabbing for his gun while attacking him - all because the cop asked the kid to walk on the sidewalk.  

    Is attacking a cop considered harmless boy behavior?  Good clean fun?

    The grand jury did it's job and weighed all the evidence.  


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    « Reply #11 on: November 26, 2014, 12:48:44 PM »
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    These protests actually began before the story got out about the shooting so I am convinced that a large portion of the violence is being incited by leftist organizations who chose St Louis for a revolution.



    Absolutely.  Even more so, a quick search of 'agent provocateur' provides many returns.  The people in the Ferguson area have been frustratingly alerting about these troublemakers from the beginning, brought in to stir up riots.  This is yet another Hegelian Dialectic, with the state controlled msm reporting what we are supposed to hear and see.  This tactic is used over and over because it works - just look at our own discussion here, predicated on the spoon fed belief that these are organic riots.  So we're distracted once again, arguing down in the weeds, while the gov't creates another crisis to serve another agenda.

    I'm not dismissing that the US has serious racial issues, but this Ferguson situation stinks of more ʝʊdɛօ masonic gov't rot.

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    « Reply #12 on: November 26, 2014, 01:01:50 PM »
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    Separate yourself from your race (blasphemy, right?)


    This was a stupid statement, frankly. I doubt that anyone who knows me -- a multiracial, Black woman -- would claim that that I have racial allegiances. My views are generally the polar opposite: I don't believe in racial allegiances.

    Your posts have been very aggressive and attacking; you also seek argument and confrontation where there is none (where did you see me defend Mike Brown, who was a criminal? As a non-White immigrant, I feel more sympathy for the shopkeeper he assaulted!). I'm hiding your posts from this point forward.
    "But 'tis strange:
    And oftentimes, to win us to our harm,
    The instruments of darkness tell us truths,
    Win us with honest trifles, to betray's
    In deepest consequence.." Banquo, from Shakespeare's Macbeth

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    « Reply #13 on: November 26, 2014, 01:05:54 PM »
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    I doubt that anyone who knows me -- a multiracial, Black woman -- would claim that that I have racial allegiances. My views are generally the polar opposite: I don't believe in racial allegiances.


    This is true. I've read many of your comments.

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    « Reply #14 on: November 26, 2014, 01:08:31 PM »
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  • Quote from: Immaculata001
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    Separate yourself from your race (blasphemy, right?)


    This was a stupid statement, frankly. I doubt that anyone who knows me -- a multiracial, Black woman -- would claim that that I have racial allegiances. My views are generally the polar opposite: I don't believe in racial allegiances.

    Your posts have been very aggressive and attacking; I'm hiding you posts from this point forward.


    You are correct in saying that no one knows you and how, pray tell, would anyone guess that a poster who goes by "Immaculata" was a Black woman unless you told them.  

    I sure  hope Immaculata finds her way to a Traditional Catholic Chapel!