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Offline Disputaciones

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Is anyone here bipolar?
« on: September 08, 2017, 08:29:44 PM »
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  • Hi,

    I was just wondering if anyone here was bipolar, and if so, if they had been able to get rid of this by prayer, the sacraments etc, or if they knew of other trads that were and were able to get rid of this as well. 


    Offline poche

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    Re: Is anyone here bipolar?
    « Reply #1 on: September 08, 2017, 11:40:08 PM »
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  • Those who are bi-polar have a chemical imbalance in the brain. It is similar in nature as if some were to have diabetes and need to take insulin. In the case of those who are bi-polar they have a very heavy cross to carry and I pray for those people.  


    Offline Amakusa

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    Re: Is anyone here bipolar?
    « Reply #2 on: September 09, 2017, 01:49:57 AM »
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  • I have a friend whose spouse is a bipolar. It is indeed a heavy cross, sure.

    Offline Marlelar

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    Re: Is anyone here bipolar?
    « Reply #3 on: September 09, 2017, 06:44:46 PM »
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  • If the source of a person's bipolar disorder is brain chemistry then it MAY be able to be rebalanced through intense nutrition and supplementation.  The person needs a good naturopath.  There is a ton of information on the net about the dangers of pharmaceuticals and also info on various natural treatments for mental issues. 

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    Re: Is anyone here bipolar?
    « Reply #4 on: September 16, 2017, 10:55:28 AM »
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  • I rep'd one of the best pharmaceuticals for treating this disorder.  I met at a symposium a very famous bipolar, a gentleman who was the second person to put his foot on the moon.  My medication probably saved his life he told me.  with proper MEDICAL management this disorder can be managed quite well.  Life's can be changed for the better with proper, MEDICAL care.  1 in 5 bi-polars commit ѕυιcιdє, so this is NOT the sort of disease to be treated by a 'naturopath' or any other vague form of quackery.  It is a serious condition requiring a doctor's care.  the problem is not thew manic side of it, which may not even present, but rather the severe intractable depression.  It is irresponsible to the extreme to apply false conspiracy theory and witch doctory to a very difficult to treat condition.  Fortunately, there are medications like quetiapine, that work and save lives.


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    Re: Is anyone here bipolar?
    « Reply #5 on: September 16, 2017, 12:42:40 PM »
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  • I do not deny that psychopharmacology may be useful or even necessary for some, at least for some time. 
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    I seriously doubt the 20% statistic. 
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    Furthermore, epigenetics would absolutely disagree with you about the role naturopathy CAN play in helping with mental illness. 
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    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    Re: Is anyone here bipolar?
    « Reply #6 on: September 16, 2017, 01:29:23 PM »
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  • I do not deny that psychopharmacology may be useful or even necessary for some, at least for some time.
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    I seriously doubt the 20% statistic.
    you are just plain wrong.  clinical studies show 50% of BPD have at least one attempt in their history.  The 1 in 5 number relates to those thatr succeed.

    http://www.psychiatrictimes.com/articles/ѕυιcιdє-attempts-and-completions-patients-bipolar-disorder

    Furthermore, epigenetics would absolutely disagree with you about the role naturopathy CAN play in helping with mental illness.
    ."mental illness" is a broad brush.  Bi-polar affective disorder, of which there are 2 types. is not something some hippie herbalist can treat with St. John's wort.  It is a serious condition that must be handled with a lot of modalities, particularly medicine and a well trained physician who knows what he is doing.  Are you aware that this group has a high, shall we use the term recidivism for lack of a better one, due to non-compliance?  The typical, as in most of them (of the half dozen I personally am acquainted with, including Buzz Aldrin, feel better after treatment, then drop their meds and frequently end up worse than before?  I know someone personally that has gone off their meds and is abandoning their authentic Catholic religion and seeking a divorce?  This individuals soul is now in danger.  This person is acquainted with a "naturopath"   You want to mess with a little blues or mild depression?  Go waste your time and money.  Do not be so irresponsible ro assert you can treat BPI or BPII with the "Prescription for Natural Healing" 

    I mean no offense and sorry for the rant mode but I have known of more than one person's/families that have suffered under this disease and attempted to try these "alternative" methods to no avail, resulting in such lives being destroyed.  




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    Re: Is anyone here bipolar?
    « Reply #7 on: September 16, 2017, 05:03:51 PM »
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  • Not sure why the text of my last post was so enormous. 

    Clark,

    When I said that I doubted that 20% of bipolars kill themselves, I didn't mean that I doubted that there were studies a person could use to make that claim.  I mean I doubt it, as a fact, despite the studies.  The one you linked to (which, unfortunately, cannot be read in its entirety without a subscription) ascribes (by clear suggestion) the high rate of bipolar ѕυιcιdєs to the co-morbidity of bi-polar and anxiety disorders (the two of which, I'm sure you realize, are quite distinct). 
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    I am in remission from bipolar and besides my personal experience in the world of professional psychology, I have discursive exposure to professional psychology in my own professional life.  I am not appealing to cօռspιʀαcιҽs but speaking from a combination of experience and familiarity with the scholarly and peer-reviewed materials available on the topic.
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    I'm not telling bi-polar people to go off their meds.  I'm saying that bipolar people who take meds are usually not solving anywhere near all their problems.  The meds may keep them alive, and may keep them functioning at a socially acceptable level.  But the meds can hardly be considered a serious solution if not taking them makes a person worse, wouldn't you say?  They are a psychological tourniquet, and merely impose an artifical balance rather than helping the human mind and body to actually heal.
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    Even the psychological literature supports this notion.  No serious psychologist actually thinks that medication is the only thing keeping a bipolar person healthy.  Most psychologists recommend psychotherapy along with psychopharmacology precisely because, in their own (skewed) view, medication is an incomplete solution.  But they're right, in principal.
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    Anyways, the budding field of epigenetics is going to show that mental illness as such is almost entirely accountable through environmental factors.  In other words, it's "learned."  So, like anything else, it can be "unlearned."  Through a process of healthy temporal and spiritual relationships, through diet, etc. 
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).


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    Re: Is anyone here bipolar?
    « Reply #8 on: September 16, 2017, 05:04:44 PM »
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  • "Bipolar disorder" is another Jєωιѕн invention and deception in the pseudoscience field of psychiatry.
    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    Re: Is anyone here bipolar?
    « Reply #9 on: September 16, 2017, 11:43:33 PM »
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  • "Bipolar disorder" is another Jєωιѕн invention and deception in the pseudoscience field of psychiatry.
    s that like when Limbaugh said that hurricane Irma was some kind of fake?