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Irish PM says abortion referrals mandatory
« on: June 12, 2018, 10:52:59 AM »
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  • https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/irish-pm-doctors-will-be-forced-to-refer-women-for-abortions



    Doctors objecting will be forced to refer abortions here in Ireland.

    What is the situation in the United States can anyone tell me? If a doctor refuses to perform abortion are they obliged to refer to an abortionist?

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    Re: Irish PM says abortion referrals mandatory
    « Reply #1 on: June 12, 2018, 11:26:20 AM »
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  • Dear St. Patrick,

    Hope this link helps: Doctor's for Life International

    Of course, Doctor's rights vary by the level of ZOG (zionists occupied government) in each country.

    When is Ireland going to wake up and realize that criminally insane, judeo-masonics, intend to wipe out your white race?


                         Talmudic Soros


    The Abortion Law and Your Rights

    The following interpretation of the law expresses the views of senior legal council to Doctors For Life International (DFL)…

    RELEVANT CONSTITUTION CLAUSES:

    Section 15[1]: “Everyone has the right to freedom of conscience, religion, thought, belief and opinion”.

    Section 16[1]: “Everyone has the right to freedom of expression which includes  freedom to receive or impart information or ideas”.

    Section 9: “Everyone is equal before the law and has the right to equal protection and benefit of the law. No person may be unfairly discriminated against directly or indirectly on any one or more grounds including amongst other things religion, conscience and belief”.

    YOUR RIGHTS

    The Constitution is the ultimate law of the country and consequently if it would clash with another law, the Constitution would override the other law. These Constitutional Rights entitle you to the following:

    To resist in Court any attempt to refuse employment or to discriminate against you or to intimidate you into participating in induced abortion. You have the right to refuse to refer a patient to an Abortionist.

    To inform others of your ideas and views about induced abortion. Contrary to what the law says, the Constitution would even allow Health Workers to refuse to furnish any information concerning the rights of an applicant for induced abortion. It is important to take note that the clause in the draft abortion law that forced a Doctor or Nurse, who was unwilling to do an abortion, to refer the Patient to another Doctor/Nurse who would be willing, was scrapped before the bill was voted upon in 1997. (This was done under pressure from all the opposition parties at the time.)

    This means that there is currently no legal obligation to refer. According to the Canadian Medical Association, “a Doctor who refers a Patient for a procedure he believes to be wrong is morally just as culpable as the Doctor who performs the procedure”.
    You may not be forced to participate in any part of the abortion procedure; this would include anything from directly taking part in the abortion procedure, to making beds and caring for the Patient or even looking at histological specimens in the laboratory.
    You may refuse taking part in any part of the administrative process of arranging abortions at all levels of the health system.
    You may not be refused work, dismissed or victimised in your work place because of your conscientious beliefs and objections concerning induced abortions.

    WHAT THE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW

    You may not express your ideas in a threatening or intimidating way, or physically prevent somebody from going for an induced abortion.

    YOUR RESPONSIBILITIES

    If you do not wish to participate in induced abortion in terms of your lawful rights, you should make your viewpoint known as soon as possible to your employer in writing so that substitute staff can be arranged. (Contact DFL for the relevant form and advice.)
    OTHER RIGHTS CONCERNING THE ABORTION LAW
    You have the right to insist that, in a particular Institution, all the conditions stipulated in the Act be adhered to before induced abortion may be performed.

    – Induced abortions can only be carried out in an authorized facility.

    According to the regulations of the law, surgical abortion can only be performed in a facility designated by the Minister of Health. In turn, the Minister is only allowed to designate a facility if it complies with specific conditions and requirements. For instance, there must be access to medical and nursing staff that can perform the procedure. A Health Professional with conscientious objection cannot be counted as an accessible staff member.

    If there are not sufficient pro-abortion staff members at the particular facility, such a facility cannot be designated by the Minister. If a facility had been designated before, and loses its pro-abortion staff members, the Minister can withdraw such a  designation after giving 14 days prior notice of such a withdrawal in the Government Gazette.

    The age of the unborn child must be determined before the abortion takes place.

    Abortion after 12 weeks can only be permitted if the special circumstances of the Act are present.
    The woman having the abortion must be fully informed concerning all the consequences regarding having an abortion and must give her consent to it.

    Where the woman is a minor, she must be advised to consult with her parents or her family.
    Where the woman is mentally disabled or unconscious, additional special conditions apply.
    The state must promote the provision of non-mandatory and non-directive counseling.

    MISOPROSTOL / MEFIPRISTONE

    Misoprostol / Mefipristone has created a peculiar dilemma for health professionals who have a conscientious objection to performing induced abortions. Misoprostol /Mefipristone is often given by another Health Professional who tells the Patient to go to the local hospital’s casualty department once she starts bleeding. At the hospital, pro-life staff are then foreced to attend to the Patient, for example, by doing a D&C. This blurs the line between taking care of Patients suffering from the complications of an induced abortion, and completing the second part of the abortion procedure and thus becoming an accomplice.

    What is your duty if, for instance, you work in a casualty department, and a Patient  comes in hemorrhaging from Misoprostol / Mefipristone? Your duty is to stabilize the Patient after which you can refer the Patient to a Health Professional who has no conscientious objection to continue to attend to the immediate needs of the Patient.

    Also, if the initial receiving and stabilising of these “emergencies” becomes a regular occurrence / part of your routine, you have the right to demand that arrangements be made for pro-abortion staff to be available to receive and stabilize these Patients 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

    WHEN APPLYING FOR A POST

    You have the right not to be discriminated against. You can apply to work in any  department and if there is more than one applicant, the fact that you do not want to take part in abortion should not in any way count against you, be that an application to work in the casualty department, the department of obstetrics and gynaecology or wherever.

    STEPS TO PROTECT YOUR RIGHTS

    Step 1: Contact Doctors For Life (DFL) for a form to notify your employers about your convictions and rights.
    Step 2: Give one copy to your employer and keep one for yourself.
    Step 3: DFL can assist you with legal advice.

    POST ABORTION SYNDROME

    Participation in abortion has emotionally harmed many people. Post Abortion Syndrome is a very real condition amongst Health Care Professionals involved in abortion and is characterised by depression, nightmares, fits of crying and many other disturbing symptoms. If you have been affected, do not hesitate to contact our pre- and post-abortion 24 hour Careline: 078 879 7484
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Irish PM says abortion referrals mandatory
    « Reply #2 on: June 12, 2018, 01:20:23 PM »
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  • Leo Varadkar is pure, pure evil. Truly, just an agent of the Devil and his works.

    May there be a thousand Masses of thanksgiving and Te Deums when he dies. God willing, sooner than later when you consider all the ways that he's angered Almighty God.
    If you #VoteYes in tomorrow's Irish Referendum on abortion, God help you.

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    Re: Irish PM says abortion referrals mandatory
    « Reply #3 on: June 14, 2018, 05:01:16 AM »
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  • You have the right to refuse to refer a patient to an Abortionist.


    Thanks for that.
    However it is only a legal interpretation. It would be interesting to see how this has worked out in practice. Has anyone heard of doctors being persecuted for refusing to refer? Or successfully defending a case against a refusal to refer?

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    Re: Irish PM says abortion referrals mandatory
    « Reply #4 on: June 14, 2018, 07:23:11 AM »
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  • St. Patrick,

    There's been many posts on this forum about the demise of Catholic Ireland.

    It would seem the Judeo-masonics, backed by Soros's $Billions and protected by your homo prime minister are set to put your anti-infanticide doctors in jail.

    What can they do, but duplicate the courage of their forefathers and enter the legal battle.

    Armed with your best Catholic lawyers, along with prayers, penance and Holy Masses. Take them on!

    They be up against the best jew legal minds they can throw at you, but fear not, Our Lady, will crush the "race of vipers".

    We believe and know this is true.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Irish PM says abortion referrals mandatory
    « Reply #5 on: June 14, 2018, 08:11:05 AM »
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  • Instead of going on and on about "Judeo-masonic" groups( which do play some part in this) why not give an honest diagnosis for this? The degeneracy   of the Irish people( as well as the folks in all modern Western countries) As de Maistre put it "every nation gets the government it deserves"
    "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
    Ephesians 2:8-9

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    Re: Irish PM says abortion referrals mandatory
    « Reply #6 on: June 14, 2018, 08:54:02 AM »
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  • Your supposition is that the Irish nation deserves the Soros white genocide campaign due to their sins?

    I submit that the referendum vote results are a Jew-media mirage.

    The majority of Irish do not accept infanticide, queer marriages or euthanasia.

    I suspect you are naive prey to superficial imagery. You fail to look further and seek the truth.

    As demonstrated by your acceptance of SSPX propaganda.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Irish PM says abortion referrals mandatory
    « Reply #7 on: June 14, 2018, 09:04:47 AM »
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  • Your supposition is that the Irish nation deserves the Soros white genocide campaign due to their sins?

    I submit that the referendum vote results are a Jew-media mirage.

    The majority of Irish do not accept infanticide, queer marriages or euthanasia.

    I suspect you are naive prey to superficial imagery. You fail to look further and seek the truth.

    As demonstrated by your acceptance of SSPX propaganda.
    Everything is Jew, Jew, Jew. You can't admit that white degenerates support degeneracy. Have their minds been poisoned by Jews? Yes. Have they allowed it? Yes
    "For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, not a result of works, so that no one may boast."
    Ephesians 2:8-9


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    Re: Irish PM says abortion referrals mandatory
    « Reply #8 on: June 14, 2018, 03:58:17 PM »
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  • Everything is Jew, Jew, Jew. You can't admit that white degenerates support degeneracy. Have their minds been poisoned by Jews? Yes. Have they allowed it? Yes

    Banezian, funny that you harp about Irish guilt and degeneracy ?

    But, you're logic and outlook on Ireland sounds more typical of a crypto-jew than that of a trad Catholic?

    From experience, we know trolls come onto this forum with an agenda. 

    Matthew has no way to screen them, other than by deciphering the meaning of what they type.

    So, please keep posting... we want to read more of your thoughts.   You're such an interesting dish  :ready-to-eat: 
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

     

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