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Offline Neil Obstat

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I heard this song on a CD I borrowed from a friend:

Irish Sing-Along
Compose Records - Recorded in Ireland.  
ISBN 0-7396-0053-2
800-738-3747
ppisales@peterpan.com
www.peterpan.com

I tried the website and it's not working.  I don't know about the phone
number or the email address.



I was very impressed with the artistry and humor of the musicians on
this recording.  They do have a few jokes that are a bit edgy, but by
today's 'standards' it's pretty mild stuff.

I was mostly interested in the very IRISH SOUND that they impart,
using traditional instruments and that pace and lilt in the voice that
is nearly impossible to write down on paper.  

The Irish folk style of singing is a delicate art form, and it does not
get a lot of attention in "educated" music circles. But it seems to me
that it would take just as many years of study and practice to
achieve true polish in this genre of vocal lyricism as it would to become
proficient in Opera or German folk music or Italian, for example.  

Come to think of it, perhaps the contrast between Italian folk music
and Irish folk music is at the root of tensions between these two
communities all over the world - outside of Italy and Ireland, that is!!


I couldn't find the same artists (I think it's Mc Vey) on YouTube, but
here is an Australian Irish duo, Foster & Allen, doing a very nice job
with it.  I remain befuddled that two different Irish bands each doing
an excellent job on an Irish folk style song about Irishmen in
Australia can sound so DIFFERENT and yet be truly artists true to the
regional music they're performing.  This song has a kind of Australian
flavor to the melody and composition, but it seems to be very
descriptive of true Australian natives with true Irish traditions, singing
about their hearts being drawn to their love of their ancient homeland
far across the world and in the opposite hemisphere.  Their lives are
truly in the land "down under," and yet they could hardly be further
from the land of their fond memories.  

The thought occurred to me that you can't get shamrocks to grow
wild in Australia, but you can't stop Irish music from erupting there.



If We Only Had Old Ireland Over Here
 (this is the video)


IF WE ONLY HAD OLD IRELAND OVER HERE
 (this is the source of the lyrics)
(Fallon)
« © '63 Writer Share, PD »


(Intro/v.1)
I was dreaming of old Ireland and Killarney's lakes and dells
I was dreaming of the shamrock and the dear old Shandon Bells
When my memories suggested in a vision bright and clear
All the strange things that would happen if we had old Ireland here

(Chorus)
If the Blarney stone stood out in Sidney Harbor
And Dublin Town to Melbourne came to stay
If the Shannon River joined the Brisbane Waters
And Killarney's lakes flowed into Botany Bay

If the Shandon Bells rang out in old Fremantle
And County Cork in Adelaide did appear
Erin's sons would never roam, all the boys would stay at home
If we only had old Ireland over here

[ piano ]

(v.2)
There were lots of lovely lassies dancin' on the village green
There are lots of lovely coleens - the finest ever seen!
Where the boys were all called "Paddy," and the girls called "Molly Dear"
Sure we'd wrap the green flag round them if we had old Ireland here

(Chorus)
If the Blarney stone stood out in Sidney Harbor
And Dublin Town to Melbourne came to stay
If the Shannon River joined the Brisbane Waters
And Killarney's lakes flowed into Botany Bay

If the Shandon Bells rang out in old Fremantle.
And County Cork in Adelaide did appear
Erin's sons would never roam, all the boys would stay at home
If we only had old Ireland over here

(Rept. 2nd half of Chorus)
If the Shandon Bells rang out in old Fremantle...
If we only had old Ireland over here

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I think this is a great song.

If anyone knows other Irish songs that they really enjoy,
please share links to them here, or perhaps post the lyrics
or even images of the sheet music if that's even possible.

For a true Irish artist, the words and chords to the song
would be like the list of ingredients for a great chef - you
never know what he'll come up with as a finished product.



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Offline Gold Peak

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  • Neil,

    I will respond to this over the weekend so to share some music I know of...  When I have some free time.

    I agree , there is something very special about Irish music.


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  • Here's some for starters:

    My sisters and I go to Irish Fest in Milwaukee and there we disvcovered Cherish the Ladies.  Here is a fun song by them:




    Of course, the great Tommy Makem.  Here he is singing The Cobbler:



    This by the Wolfe Tones...a classic..'the Streets of New York'




    This next one by the Wolfe tones, 'the Great Hunger'



    This on about the Masses said on the rocks when Church went underground:



    Here are lyrics:

    The Mass Rock In The Glen - Leo McCaffrey Irish Tenor

    Lyrics:- In a lonely mountain valley
    In the mountains of Tyrone
    Lies one of Ireland's hallowed spots
    Deserted and unknown
    But few who write historic tales
    Or wield the poet's pen
    Can say with pride - they knelt beside
    The Mass Rock in the glen

    Our priests like wolves were hunted down
    O God 'twas surely hard
    That from the right to worship Thee
    Thy children were debarred
    But still they proudly bore
    Thy cross Those simple mountain men
    Were proud to share Thy Calvary
    By the Mass Rock in the glen

    No more on top of Corradeenagh Hill
    The sentinel stands guard
    Our ancient foes, the foreign yokes
    Have gone to their reward
    And he who worships God in peace
    May bless the fearless men
    Who held the faith for Ireland
    By the Mass Rock in the glen

    God Bless the glens of Ireland
    Every rock and mountain pass
    'twas those same glens that under God
    Preserved for us, the Mass
    And if the day should come again
    When Ireland calls for men
    She will not find them wanting
    By the Mass Rock in the glen






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  • I like Catholic Irish culture but not the pagan Celtic stuff.

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  • Yes, Riverdance is as if the Druids came back!


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  • I enjoy listening to John McCormack



































    May God bless you and keep you

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  • And another...

    Barney MacKenna, master of the banjo: