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« on: February 05, 2013, 10:21:32 AM »
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  • It has just been released


    Report of the Inter-Departmental Committee to establish the facts of State involvement with the Magdalen Laundries
    http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Pages/MagdalenRpt2013


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    « Reply #1 on: February 05, 2013, 02:10:37 PM »
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  • How the four religious orders have responded.Three have issued statements.

    http://www.goodshepherdsisters.com/05%2002%2013%20Statement.pdf
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    Statement of Good Shepherd Sisters, 5
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    February 2013
                 
    We welcome the publication of this comprehensive Report on State Involvement and
    other related matters in regard to the Magdalen Laundries.
    We were part of the system and the culture of the time.  We acted in good faith
    providing a refuge and we sincerely regret that women could have experienced hurt
    and hardship during their time with us. It saddens us deeply to hear that time spent
    with us, often as part of a wider difficult experience, has had such a traumatic impact
    on the lives of these women.
    We have noted in the Report that “the lack of information  given to some women,
    as to why they were sent and the length of time they would remain”  was hugely
    upsetting for these women. In truth most of us were  often  not privy to this
    information, however, this should not have happened and we fully understand how
    wrong and upsetting this must have been.
    We have been meeting and will continue to meet these women personally, to listen  
    to them compassionately and to discuss, if they so wish, their on-going concerns.
    We are aware of the response from Minister Shatter today and agree that it will take
    time to absorb and reflect  on this lengthy and significant Report. Hopefully its
    publication, will provide much greater clarity and understanding of this entire issue,
    and lead to reconciliation and healing.    
    After the Homes closed some women remained with us and they are now part of our
    Good Shepherd Family. A prime concern for these women at this time is that their
    privacy will be respected and maintained.
    We are grateful to Minister Shatter and all those who initiated the Inquiry. We thank
    Dr. Martin Mc Aleese and his team for their painstaking research and commitment
    which has given all of us a much clearer picture of the reality surrounding the entire
    Magdalen issue.



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    « Reply #2 on: February 05, 2013, 02:11:51 PM »
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  • http://www.sistersofmercy.ie/news/article_display.cfm?article_id=2936
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    Statement from the Congregation of the Sisters of Mercy 5th February 2013

    5 February 2013 CONGREGATION

    The Congregation of the Sisters of Mercy welcomes the publication of the Report of the Inter-Departmental Committee to establish the facts of State involvement with the Magdalen Laundries. For the women who spent time in Magdalen Homes, we hope this Report brings clarity, greater understanding and healing.

    Two Magdalen Homes, at Dun Laoghaire and Galway were under the care of Convents of Mercy. Both were already in operation before coming under our care. The Home at Dun Laoghaire closed in 1963. The laundry at the Galway Home closed in 1984. Many of the women who resided in the Galway Home remained voluntarily in our care for the remainder of their lives.

    Our Galway records suggest that women came to the Home in many different ways. They stayed for varying periods of time. Some women came and went on several occasions.

    We fully acknowledge and are saddened by the limitations of the care which could be provided in these Homes. Their institutional setting was far removed from the response considered appropriate to such needs today. We wish that we could have done more and that it could have been different. It is regrettable that the Magdalen Homes had to exist at all.

    Our sisters worked in the laundries with the women and, while times and conditions were harsh and difficult, some very supportive, lifelong friendships emerged and were sustained for several decades.

    We would like to extend an invitation to anyone who may have spent some time in either Dun Laoghaire or Galway to come and meet with us, if they so wish.

    Finally, we wish to thank Senator McAleese, Nuala Ní Mhuircheartaigh and the members of the Committee for their detailed and thorough work in this sensitive area.

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    « Reply #3 on: February 05, 2013, 02:49:57 PM »
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  • http://www.rsccaritas.ie/
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    Statement regarding The McAleese Report

    The Religious Sisters of Charity welcome the publication of the McAleese Report commissioned by the Government to establish the facts of State involvement with the Magdalen laundries.

    We apologise unreservedly to any woman who experienced hurt while in our care. In good faith we provided refuge for women at our Magdalen Homes in Donnybrook and Peacock Lane.  Some of the women spent a short time with us; some left, returned and left again and some still live with us.

    We co-operated fully with Senator McAleese and his Committee in the preparation of this report and made available all of our archival material.  Each individual woman, if she so requests, will be welcomed and provided with any information we have on file regarding her stay with us.  
    ENDS

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    « Reply #4 on: February 05, 2013, 03:14:39 PM »
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  • Thanks, John.


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    « Reply #5 on: February 06, 2013, 11:58:39 AM »
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  • I couldn't find a website for the Congregation of Our Lady of Charity of Refuge

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2013/0205/366251-magdalene-report-to-be-published-today/
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    The Congregation of Our Lady of Charity of Refuge said: "It is with sorrow and sadness that we recognise that for many of those who spoke to the inquiry that their time in a refuge is associated with anxiety, distress, loneliness, isolation, pain and confusion and much more."

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    « Reply #6 on: February 06, 2013, 12:05:03 PM »
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  • There is no Catholic media in Ireland. The report dispels many of the myths and lies about the Magdalen Homes. I don't doubt that some women suffered but they were not the places of horror that the enemy want us to believe. With the legislation on abortion, they will certainly exploit the Magdalen Homes to attack the Church.

    The religious sisters did their best. An interesting study would be to assess  these four orders today.


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    « Reply #7 on: February 09, 2013, 02:40:35 PM »
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  • Today, one of the four orders thanked me for defending them. I gave them some advice on how to deal with the vile media. An opportunity arose for me to speak with the order. As the sister said we should remember that Our Lord himself had enemies. I reminded her they have enemies.

    We discussed the orders future. They are dying and few vocations.

    As I said it would be interesting to make study. As I said in my previous post, the orders did their best under the circuмstances, and in reality were taken advantage of.


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    « Reply #8 on: February 09, 2013, 02:47:54 PM »
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  • 1950's in ireland, and the world were tough times..... i thank God for good priests and nuns who cared for me and mine.... in spite of those difficulities.. in fact they gave me my Faith..... :pray:

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    « Reply #9 on: February 09, 2013, 05:18:51 PM »
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  • Interesting article on the Mail Online:

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    We have to thank David Quinn, head of the Iona Institute, for pointing out three significant facts that have been missing from the discussions on the Magdalene laundries.

    First, the Magdalene homes were not an invention of the Catholic Church.

    Second, the Magdalene homes did not exist only in Catholic Ireland. For example, the Magdalene Society of Philadelphia was established in 1800 by, among others, the Quakers. In the north of Ireland, the Church of Ireland and the Presbyterians ran Magdalene homes.

    Third, the laundries – or if you want to use the name I prefer because it is more accurate, the industrial workhouses -- were not established in Ireland to punish unmarried mothers. The first Magdalene asylum was established in Ireland in 1767 by a Protestant benefactor as a home for ‘penitent prostitutes.’ In fact, we still don’t have figures as to just what percentage of the inmates at the workhouses were unmarried mothers.
    ...

    If you think being locked up in something called a Magdalene Laundry was bad, imagine being confined to something called the Virginia Colony for the Epileptic and Feebleminded. Such state institutions were sterilising those who had the misfortune to be listed as ‘mentally deficient.’

    Two-thirds of the 7,325 sterilised in solid-Baptist Virginia were female.

    Small footnote: almost the only opposition to this policy came from the Catholic Church, alas a weak force against the Protestant ‘science’ of eugenics.

    The point I am making is that modern State brutality to stop females breeding at will was in no way unique to Ireland and certainly not unique to the Catholic Church.
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    « Reply #10 on: February 10, 2013, 06:45:27 AM »
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  • Martina Devlin is having a rant here.

    http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/martina-devlin/crocodile-tears-cant-wash-away-indelible-stain-left-by-magdalenes-29053653.html
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    Crocodile tears can't wash away indelible stain left by Magdalenes

    A council worker in the now derelict Sisters of Our Lady of Charity Magdalene Laundry in Dublin
    07 FEBRUARY 2013

    WELCOME to the age of washing whites whiter. When stains show up on laundry day, we know just how to neutralise them – identify the perpetrators and start baying for heads on a platter.

    Culprits are always other people, because Irish society never shares the blame for blots on the national reputation. Failures always happened without our knowledge or approval. And so, true to form, the default position is to round up the usual suspects following the Magdalene Laundries report.

    You know the drill: the blame for the brutality of those workhouses can be laid entirely at the door of the Catholic Church, which moulded Ireland into a repressive place. The laundries are another example of the crushing hand of authoritarianism on the shoulders of women deemed dangerous, deviant or just plain inconvenient.

    The Magdalene Laundries did, indeed, operate amid a narrow, self-reinforcing society: their harsh regime was indefensible during previous eras and remains indefensible today.

    But they existed because citizens allowed it to be so. Their walls were high, but people entered laundries on business and closed their eyes to what they saw. The Catholic Church calls them fallen women? Then keep them apart before they pollute the community.

    What happened behind laundry doors was known about, and acceded to. Society allowed girls and young women to be denied their freedom and used as forced labour: we collaborated in their dehumanisation.

    Society played pass-the-parcel with their lives, shunting their care to religious congregations. Yet now we have the hypocrisy to cry: "Not in my name!" But it was done in our name: we knew it and kept silent. At least let's acknowledge our actions.

    In Ireland today, the religious orders have become expedient scapegoats. Their reputations are at a historic low, with people willing to believe anything of them. But we are slow to examine our own consciences.

    Where doubts prick, we point to servile politicians kissing bishops' rings and pandering to Rome Rule. The State collaborated in this human rights abuse, not us, we say. But we were part of the State. We re-elected those politicians.

    Granted, the Catholic Church presided over a pitiless and unyielding ethos masquerading as Christianity, and psychological wounds were inflicted which continue to fester.

    But its institutions can't be blamed for all of Ireland's ills: they didn't precipitate the economic collapse, surrender our sovereignty to the troika or sign off on those infernal promissory notes. You'd think they did, though, from the rush to load them with guilt for everything we find unacceptable.

    The nuns who ran the Magdalene Laundries bear some of the responsibility for the cruelties carried out there, no doubt about it. Those who defied them were not treated kindly. Their talk of having intended to offer a refuge rings hollow when set alongside survivor testimonies.

    However, it is not the nuns alone who should be held to account. Their rulebook was ours: we were willing subscribers. We were what they were, and they were what we were. Mirror images of each other.

    We were a conformist and immature society, and I don't advance the view that we're particularly mature today, but some movement has occurred.

    Not everyone who ended up in a laundry offended against social mores. In some cases, inmates were orphaned, or came from homes where parents couldn't look after them.

    Many an older sister made sacrifices to keep families together rather than allow members to be parcelled out to the nuns: their stern system was well-known and much feared.

    In tolerating the laundries, society lacked charity and compassion, characteristics also conspicuous by their absence in the nuns who ran them. They were operated on the basis of humiliation and punishment rather than assistance or rehabilitation. However – and this is not to pander to the washing whites whiter urge – we must look at the laundries in context, rather than from today's vantage point.

    Back then, society was content for these girls and women to be propelled out of sight. If laundries were brutish and condemnatory places – and they were – then society was equally brutish and condemnatory.

    It is particularly deplorable that vulnerable young women bore the brunt of a tyrannical value system – especially those who were poor. They were powerless twice over: easy targets because of gender and poverty. It is shameful, too, how other women were their willing gatekeepers.

    Survivors are now elderly, increasing the onus on the Government to offer swift reparation. It was dishonourable of earlier administrations to force these women to struggle so long for justice, blocked by arms of government – including that bizarre testimony to the UN Committee Against Torture, claiming the majority entered laundries voluntarily.

    Members of previous governments sat on their hands while the Magdalenes withered and died. The Coalition must act without delay, and redress must include a formal apology.

    While there may be legal reasons for the limited nature of the Taoiseach's remarks to date, a less equivocal apology – and financial settlement – must follow. The State would be bankrupt financially if it weren't for the bailout. It must not allow itself to be drawn into moral bankruptcy.

    In the meantime, blame for the Magdalene Laundries can't be delegated to religious congregations. The broader community was complicit. The failure is ours, and crocodile tears can't wash it away.


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    « Reply #11 on: February 10, 2013, 06:52:54 AM »
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  • http://m.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2013/0209/1224329839729.html
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    Are factual inaccuracies in movies justified by role in highlighting issues?
    Saturday, February 9, 2013

    JOE HUMPHREYS
    McAleese report raises questions about accuracy of how Magdalene laundries have been portrayed
    A feature of the campaign for justice for the women of the Magdalene laundries has been the role of historical dramatisations on stage and screen.

    Over the past 20 years, there has been a series of plays and movies about what went on behind the institutions’ walls. These played a major part in shaping public opinion as well as bringing the issue to international attention.
    None has had greater reach than The Magdalene Sisters, the 2002 film directed by Peter Mullan which won the coveted Golden Lion award on its release at the Venice Film Festival.

    It tells the harrowing story of four teenage girls admitted to a laundry where they experience or witness routine physical and sɛҳuąƖ abuse by nuns and a priest. Like many dramatisations, it depicts the laundries as profitable, money-making rackets, and shows the women subjected to various indignities including head-shaving.

    But the question arises from this week’s report: how accurate were such narratives?
    A striking feature of the McAleese report is the number of women who spoke positively about the nuns, and strongly rejected allegations of physical abuse. Against this, the vast majority reported psychological abuse. One woman said she was sɛҳuąƖly abused during her time in a laundry by a fellow “Magdalene” who had been in the institution for some time.

    The report says the 118 women it spoke to comprises a “small sample”, and is “biased towards more modern years” but it remains the largest single collection of such testimony to be published.
    Criticism from the women may have been tempered by the fact that half were living in nursing homes under the care of religious orders. However, there is no escaping the fact that the report jars with some popular perceptions.
    “We have always said the one-size-fits-all model of survivor does not apply,” says James M Smith, a leading researcher on the laundries and a member of the Justice for Magdalenes advisory committee.
    Of Mullan’s film, he says: “I have said then and since, no survivor I have spoken to has alluded to women suffering sɛҳuąƖ abuse in the Magdalene laundries. They were predominantly female and run by female religious; sɛҳuąƖ abuse was endemic in male institutions.”

    He notes survivors have also denied that women were stripped naked and examined by nuns, as depicted in The Magdalene Sisters. However, the use of hair cutting as a punishment is confirmed by a set of laundry “house rules” that Dr Smith discovered.

    This docuмent is included in the McAleese report, along with testimony of three women who said they had either experienced or seen hair-cutting as a punishment. Head-shaving was reported only once, however, in a case of head lice.

    Dr Smith, who is associate professor in the English department at Boston College, has previously critiqued The Magdalene Sisters in academic papers, saying it “reduces most of the nuns on the screen to mere stereotype”. He has also argued the film “replicates the critical shortcoming” of the work of a previous Channel 4 docuмentary, Witness: Sex in a Cold Climate, by deciding “neither to solicit nor to incorporate the religious orders’ version of the Magdalene story”.
    Patricia Burke Brogan, the former novitiate whose groundbreaking play on the issue, Eclipsed, was first staged in 1992, says she too has harboured concerns about some of the dramatisations.

    “I never saw any physical beating-up. I know in some places the women beat up one another because they were trapped and frustrated.” But, she says, the critical issue is that “the women had their freedom taken from them”.
    Of Mullan’s film, she adds: “I could not stand it. Some of the parts were really over-the-top. The nuns were monsters.” To a lesser extent, she says, other films have contained “inaccuracies”, including those showing women having babies in laundries, something which, she says, would not have occurred.
    Mullan’s agent said he was unavailable for comment this week but the director has previously denied claims that he exaggerated abuses, saying rather he “did the opposite”.

    Campaigners believe the role such movies played in highlighting the issue justified any artistic embellishment, and this view is shared by Louise Lowe, director of the award-winning play Laundry, who says The Magdalene Sisters “served an important function at the time”.
    Of her own work, which was staged at a former Magdalene asylum in Dublin, she says: “We make art; we are not historians or sociologists. We did not make up anything, which probably made our work a lot harder. We spoke to families and people who had stories or memories.”

    She says an important element of Laundry was “acting as a witness” and exploring the responsibility of people outside of the church – an issue that resonates with this week’s report. “The more we researched the more we realised it was too simplistic to separate those things.”

    Dr Smith describes Eclipsed as the event that “started off” the docuмenting of what happened in the laundries, and he notes the recently launched UCD Magdalene Oral History Project would be a natural conclusion. Whatever about artistic depictions of the laundries, he adds, “the survivor testimony has been consistent”.

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    « Reply #12 on: February 10, 2013, 10:47:55 AM »
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  • I am not sure if you can view this. Often videos are blocked in various countries on grounds of copyright etc etc. As far as I am aware it is footage from the Sean McDermott Street Magdalen Home. (Sisters of Our Lady of Charity of Refuge).It closed in 1996.

    'Archive footage of a Magdalene laundry'
    http://www.itv.com/news/update/2013-02-05/archive-footage-of-a-magdalene-laundry/

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  • http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/features/3635834/Mis-lit-Is-this-the-end-for-the-misery-memoir.html
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    Ed West12:01AM GMT 05 Mar 2008
    As two 'mis lit' memoirs destined for the bestseller lists are revealed to be works of fiction, Ed West reports on the almighty backlash against a classic of the genre
    It was a childhood tale of woe that touched the public's heart. Kathy O'Beirne's 2005 memoir, Kathy's Story: A Childhood Hell Inside the Magdalene Laundries, painted a relentlessly grim picture of growing up in 1960s Ireland. Entitled Don't Ever Tell in Britain, it shifted 400,000 copies, making O'Beirne the second best-selling Irish non-fiction writer of all time, after Frank McCourt, whose Angela's Ashes had been no laugh-a-minute either.

    O'Beirne told of being tortured by her labourer father, experimented upon in a psychiatric hospital, and raped by no fewer than four priests and a policeman. Then there was her spell in a Magdalene laundry, one of Ireland's notorious Church-run homes for "fallen women", where, aged 14, she gave birth to a daughter. A reviewer at the time wrote: "Her story is so horrific, it is almost unbelievable."

    Which, upon reading the book, was the reaction of Hermann Kelly, a Derry-born journalist. "Alarm bells started ringing," he says. "Even in the introductory chapter, every single thing is black and white. If you were a betting man, the statistical probability of someone having so many terrible events in their life stretched credibility."

    According to Kathy's Real Story, Kelly's exposé of O'Beirne's book, published in the UK next week, Don't Ever Tell is not so much misery memoir as a great work of fiction.

    The key to O'Beirne's success was the public's fascination with the Magdalene laundries, which are to misery memoir writers what the SAS is to Andy McNab. Established in the 19th century and finally closed in 1996, the laundries, as depicted in the 2002 film The Magdalene Sisters, were notorious for Dickensian harshness and cruelty. The nuns who ran them historically, according to Kelly, were "Catholic Frankensteins, or Daleks out to exterminate all signs of life and love".
    O'Beirne wrote: "I was 12 years old and I had just been delivered to hell... the Devil himself could not have dreamed up a better hell than the Magdalene laundry."
    Except that the Sisters of Our Lady of Charity of High Park have no record of O'Beirne; and they were certainly meticulous record-keepers. As Kelly says, their archives are "complete and so comprehensive that one woman's two-day admittance was recorded".
    O'Beirne simply didn't exist in the files; the laundries did not admit girls as young as 13, or pregnant women. Even former Magdalene residents have said O'Beirne's account rings false. One former friend suggested O'Beirne had seen The Magdalene Sisters, and now "seems to think it's her".
    In response, O'Beirne's co-writer, Michael Sheridan, could only say he spoke to a woman who remembers being in a Magdalene home with Kathy. "She died in a psychiatric hospital some time after we spoke," he said. "She is another victim, just like Kathy."
    Nor is there any record of "Annie", O'Beirne's child who apparently died from bowel disease at the age of 10. She claims it was because the birth was hushed up. Kelly recently offered €1,000 to anyone who can find proof of Annie having existed. He does not expect to be getting out the chequebook any time soon.
    Kelly's exposé could be the start of a widespread backlash against misery literature, a genre kick-started by Angela's Ashes in 1996, and which took off globally four years later with A Child Called It, Dave Pelzer's account of growing up with an alcoholic mother who beat, starved, stabbed, burnt and force-fed ammonia to him. "Inspirational memoirs", the polite term for this type of book, now account for nine per cent of the British book market, shifting 1.9 million copies a year and generating £24 million of revenue for the publishing industry. HarperCollins recently admitted to a 31 per cent increase in annual profits thanks to "mis lit".
    "Mis lit" is not an entirely new invention. The Awful Disclosures of Maria Monk, Or, The Hidden Secrets of a Nun's Life in a Convent Exposed, published in 1836, suggested that the Sisters of Charity in Montreal were forced to have sex with the priests next door, who then baptised and strangled any offspring. Unable to distinguish reality and fantasy as a result of a brain injury as a child, Monk had never been in a nunnery. She was, in fact, a prostitute who had spent her early years in a Magdalene laundry. "At least she'd been in one," says Kelly, drily.
    Among the most disturbing recent examples of the genre was Damaged by Cathy Glass, which recounted the story of a foster mother and her ward, Jodie, a seven-year-old who had been horribly abused.
    But even that was a picnic compared with Stuart Howarth's Please, Daddy, No, which recalled how his father repeatedly raped him and forced him to eat pigswill, among other things too hideous to mention. Stuart is then abused by paedophiles, becomes a homeless, cocaine-addicted arsonist, and ends up killing his father and going to prison. It sold 13,000 copies in its first week.
    So why has other people's misery become such big business? One of the biggest factors is the impact of the rise of the supermarket: eight out of 10 misery memoirs are bought at the checkout, mostly by women (who make up 85 per cent of the market) who would not visit a bookshop but buy "true life" magazines such as Pick Me Up or Chat, which feature stories about abusive fathers, cheating husbands and distasteful diseases.
    With this demand, it is not surprising that some have been tempted to stretch the truth. Hollywood scriptwriters would have pitched the Belgian writer Misha Defonseca's 2005 memoir, Surviving With Wolves, as "Schindler's List meets The Jungle Book". This yarn about a six-year-old Jєωιѕн girl searching for her missing parents on a 1,900-mile trek around occupied Europe - during which she kills a nαzι officer and is given shelter by packs of wolves - was a complete fabrication.
    In a statement last week, Monique De Wael (Defonseca's real name) admitted she had made it all up. Her parents weren't resistance fighters. She didn't spend four years wandering alone across Germany, Poland, Ukraine, Romania and Yugoslavia, through Italy across the Alps to France and back to Belgium. She isn't even Jєωιѕн.
    And yet the fabricated accounts keep on coming. Last week, Love and Consequences by Margaret B Jones was published in America, about growing up in gangland LA and selling drugs at the age of eight. But the book was withdrawn on Monday after Jones - real name Margaret Seltzer - admitted that while many of its details were based on friends' experiences, they were not her own.
    True or not, supporters say these books inspire and help us to empathise; others say it is Schadenfreude. The psychologist Oliver James has even suggested there might be some hidden erotic motive.
    "Misery literature is huge, especially in Ireland," agrees Kelly. "The public loves this description of a cold, miserable Ireland, where it always rains and priests are always around, abusing someone."

    But what makes the O'Beirne saga so troubling, Kelly believes, is that it fuels Ireland's obsession with clerical sex abuse, and the abuse-claim industry. O'Beirne herself accused Fr Fergal O'Connor, founder of the homeless hostel Sherrard House, of raping her in the 1970s. The investigation took a year, during which the 77-year-old University College Dublin professor was prevented from visiting his own workplace. Yet Fr O'Connor was virtually crippled by arthritis when the alleged crimes took place, unable even to shake hands because of the pain, according to a friend. The priest was exonerated two days before his death.
    Mainstream Publishing, which published Don't Ever Tell, is steadfast in its support of O'Beirne's book. "We have made our own investigations, and are convinced this is a legitimate account of the harrowing experiences endured by a young girl whose life has been embittered by the abuse she suffered at the institution in which she was incarcerated. We have no doubt about Kathy O'Beirne's account of these events. Mr Kelly's version is his own and, in our opinion, does not relate to any sort of reality."

    O'Beirne's own feelings about Kelly's investigation became clear on Irish TV last November, when he pulled out her birth certificate and school records, showing she had lied about her age, education and alleged adoption. O'Beirne, furious, hit him. As he commented at the time: "She can beat my back, but she can't beat my book."



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    « Reply #14 on: February 10, 2013, 01:52:24 PM »
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  • There are of course as I said people who were/are exploiting. This is a deep insult to the women. Woman, like the elderly woman, who died in recent weeks. She was in the care of one of the orders after the Laundry closed, and her funeral was well attended, and it was a proper funeral and burial. She never requested an apology. The convent was her home. The nuns were her friends.

    Some women do still reside with the nuns or in accommodation provided by the nuns. I don't find this objectionable.

    Already some who exploited the deaths of the Indian woman and her unborn child are now agitating to make this some human rights issue.