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Offline sean1846

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Irish "Bishops" feature LGBT activist in Video
« on: February 27, 2018, 01:32:01 PM »
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  • https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/irish-bishops-feature-lesbian-lgbt-activist-in-world-meeting-of-families-vi

    The so called "Bishops" in this country are pathetic. Think about this, if you're not sedevacantist, you hold these heretics to be the legitimate hierarchy of the church. This is only a small piece of evidence to add to the big picture that they are not Catholic!



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    Re: Irish "Bishops" feature LGBT activist in Video
    « Reply #1 on: February 27, 2018, 09:24:10 PM »
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  • Not true, I am a sedeplenist, and I do not hold the NO bishops as legitimate.  I believe the new rites are valid, and that NO bishops may be valid because of that, but legitimacy is another thing.  It is a distinction that is lacking in the traditional world.  
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    Re: Irish "Bishops" feature LGBT activist in Video
    « Reply #2 on: March 01, 2018, 11:33:46 AM »
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  • Not true, I am a sedeplenist, and I do not hold the NO bishops as legitimate.  I believe the new rites are valid, and that NO bishops may be valid because of that, but legitimacy is another thing.  It is a distinction that is lacking in the traditional world.  
    The new rites is not valid. 
    New Rite of ordination is invalid, watch here:

    The church teaches that heretics are outside the church. A heretic cannot be a member of the church, let alone be able to rule in the church. The schismatic "orthodox" have valid orders, that doesn't make them leaders in the Church of Christ.

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    Re: Irish "Bishops" feature LGBT activist in Video
    « Reply #3 on: March 01, 2018, 12:27:53 PM »
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  • sean 1846 - I am thoroughly familiar with dimonds.  And, I repeat, I am a sedeplenist.  If I were not a plenist, then perhaps my validity reasoning would be flawed.  But, a pope can change the rites of the church despite the damaging effect it may have.  That means it would be still be valid, yet illicit.  This theology has been that of the sspx for many years, however only minimally applied.  And, it needs to be broadened.  Only the pope is protected from judgment by the church, the bishops outside of the diocese of rome are not.  They may be valid, but too much suggests that they are not legitimate.  As such, they do not belong int he canon of the mass.  Conversely, the pope always belongs in the canon of the mass, despite his defaults.  Because, his defaults are infinitely more desirable than the free for all conclavism that would result without.  Schism and heresy would be the norm.  Thank God that Our Lord prays for Peter, even in the midst of his thrice denial.  Temporal authority and obedience is believe it or not, one of the things that makes life an "advent"ure.  
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    Re: Irish "Bishops" feature LGBT activist in Video
    « Reply #4 on: March 01, 2018, 05:09:35 PM »
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  • https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/irish-bishops-feature-lesbian-lgbt-activist-in-world-meeting-of-families-vi

    The so called "Bishops" in this country are pathetic. Think about this, if you're not sedevacantist, you hold these heretics to be the legitimate hierarchy of the church. This is only a small piece of evidence to add to the big picture that they are not Catholic!
    clicking on that link just subjected me to two of the hideous "females" I ever gazed upon.
    There's five seconds of my life I won't get back and a picture in my mind that won't go away for a long time.
    The Church in Ireland is a joke, along with a big segment of the irish people, they need to import more savage muzzies to cleanse the place of all those deviants.maybe that will wake them up. If not, they should get the sodom and gommorah treatment.


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    Re: Irish "Bishops" feature LGBT activist in Video
    « Reply #5 on: March 02, 2018, 10:11:21 AM »
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  • sean 1846 - I am thoroughly familiar with dimonds.  And, I repeat, I am a sedeplenist.  If I were not a plenist, then perhaps my validity reasoning would be flawed.  But, a pope can change the rites of the church despite the damaging effect it may have.  That means it would be still be valid, yet illicit.  This theology has been that of the sspx for many years, however only minimally applied.  And, it needs to be broadened.  Only the pope is protected from judgment by the church, the bishops outside of the diocese of rome are not.  They may be valid, but too much suggests that they are not legitimate.  As such, they do not belong int he canon of the mass.  Conversely, the pope always belongs in the canon of the mass, despite his defaults.  Because, his defaults are infinitely more desirable than the free for all conclavism that would result without.  Schism and heresy would be the norm.  Thank God that Our Lord prays for Peter, even in the midst of his thrice denial.  Temporal authority and obedience is believe it or not, one of the things that makes life an "advent"ure.

    Can the pope become a heretic and remain the pope?

    Do you believe that "Pope" Francis professes the true faith?

    Sincerely,

    Sean



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    Re: Irish "Bishops" feature LGBT activist in Video
    « Reply #6 on: March 02, 2018, 10:58:33 AM »
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  • sean 1846 - I am thoroughly familiar with dimonds.  And, I repeat, I am a sedeplenist.  If I were not a plenist, then perhaps my validity reasoning would be flawed.  But, a pope can change the rites of the church despite the damaging effect it may have.  That means it would be still be valid, yet illicit.  This theology has been that of the sspx for many years, however only minimally applied.  And, it needs to be broadened.  Only the pope is protected from judgment by the church, the bishops outside of the diocese of rome are not.  They may be valid, but too much suggests that they are not legitimate.  As such, they do not belong int he canon of the mass.  Conversely, the pope always belongs in the canon of the mass, despite his defaults.  Because, his defaults are infinitely more desirable than the free for all conclavism that would result without.  Schism and heresy would be the norm.  Thank God that Our Lord prays for Peter, even in the midst of his thrice denial.  Temporal authority and obedience is believe it or not, one of the things that makes life an "advent"ure.  
    What you wrote reminds me of the scene from the movie LA Story with Steve Martin when all the LA yuppie morons are ordering coffee: " I’ll have a half double decaffeinated half-caf, with a twist of lemon"

    I think all the popes since John XXIII were/are possessed by the devil. I'll let God sort out the "how could this be?"
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24