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Introduction and "Fish Eaters" Discussion
« on: February 28, 2009, 10:32:47 AM »
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  • Hello all!

    I'd like to take this opportunity to introduce myself to you all.  :cool:

    I had not heard of this site but was directed here by two Fish Eaters posters.

    One described your site as "full of crazy white supremacists".

    Considering the source is a self described pant wearing feminist who wears flip-flops to mass, I suppose that should be considered a compliment.  :laugh1:

    In any case, to fill you in, after 3 years and 5,000+ posts on Fish Eaters I was banned without warning and without explanation by Joe "Quis". Afterwards, FishEaters displayed their Traditional Catholic Charity by starting a thread now up to 5 pages dedicated to personally calumniating me in my absence.

    http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/apologia/vpost?id=3332694&trail=14

    If INPEFFES is reading this, I thank him, as he is the only one with the moral courage on the thread to speak Catholic truth and risk his own ban in the process.

    Joe finally wrote what appears to be half justification half rambling sermon where, with his divine knowledge, he proceeds to publicly psychoanalyze me as an excuse for the ban. At least he does admit that there is no rule that I broke he could point to. The best he could do was to cite some nebulous "change" I had exhibited "over time".  :laugh1:

    In any case, a kind soul has brought to my attention some  facts regarding the Fish Eater Forum owners. I will withold the name to protect the person from cruel harassment and an almost certain ban. The message is as follows:

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    I don't mean to be a gossip, but the whole sad affair was announced at FE:

    http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/apologia/vpost?id=1958895

    Vox and Quis were both married to other people when they started chatting. They left their spouses and now live together.

    It's disgusting, and a lot of people aren't aware of it. Quis and Vox call themselves Traditional Catholics but they are anything but.

    They definitely need our prayers, as do many of the others who post there.

    Perhaps your expulsion will make sense to you now.


    Indeed it does make more sense. To discover this information after 3 years of posting on the board, assuming "Quis" and "Vox" to be sacramentally married, is shocking to say the least and disappointing. Beyond the questionable personal morality involved there is a proud public announcement and celebratory atmosphere of a civil marriage being entered into by a Catholic already sacramentally married.

    Then, as is typical on Fisheaters, some posters, out of fear of an arbitrary ban, turn a blind eye to the affair and get upset, not by the apparent adultery, but by other posters actually warning the forum owners of the moral consequences of their actions!

    I do feel it is a blessing that I have discovered this information. In effect the site owners, instead of wasting millions of typed pages proclaiming their version of Catholic Tradition should be more focused on righting themselves with Our Lord before judgment. The public accusations of sin from "Quis" towards other members and his attitude make more sense now as it is guilt projected. It makes sense that someone would defend so sharply the moral certainty of acting on advice of "a priest" even if he is objectively wrong. "A priest" = the priest who told him it was a-ok to get civilly married and date a woman he met online before receiving an annulment from his own 12 year marriage with 3 kids.

    What a sad, sad affair. Rather than any scorn or ridicule I ask for your prayers for these people. For the site owners and their situation but also many of the posters on the site who are lost and do nothing to contribute to personal sanctity; rather tearing down others than building up the Mystical Body.

    In any case, I look forward to discussions on here.
    Many of you are probably familiar with the hypocrisy on the other site and can relate. In fact I fully expect some of them to add this post as fodder for their calumny. They need our prayers.

    God Bless!


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    Introduction and "Fish Eaters" Discussion
    « Reply #1 on: February 28, 2009, 10:41:45 AM »
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  • I have read your  posts over there. Welcome. No scandal here, I was aware of what had transpired. Chant is a great person in my opinion.


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    « Reply #2 on: February 28, 2009, 10:57:59 AM »
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  • For any FE lurkers, the FE thread on CAF I posted on was shut down, not because of my posts, but because of forum violations (ad hominem attacks) by Quis, La Roza, and Dauphin. My post was fully within forum rules. Theirs were not. Oh the irony!  :laugh1:

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    « Reply #3 on: February 28, 2009, 11:04:44 AM »
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  • Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
    Hello steve I used to be a fishie too.I know you!you were one of the few people who posted wise things.the man with a man avatar and father of at least one baby!
    Can you guess who am I?

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    « Reply #4 on: February 28, 2009, 11:07:57 AM »
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  • I give up! Tell me. ;)


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    « Reply #5 on: February 28, 2009, 11:11:08 AM »
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  • Quis said that if he was a priest he would never baptize me and that I will go to hell.why?because I said that he was lax!
    I want to answer that if I were a pope I would EXCOMMUNICATE him and his concubine!because just as it is impossible for a girl like me to become a pope,it is impossible for an unchaste man like him to be a valid priest!!!

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    « Reply #6 on: February 28, 2009, 11:35:33 AM »
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    Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
    Hello steve I used to be a fishie too.I know you!you were one of the few people who posted wise things.


    You know, it is funny the amount of PM's I'd get on FE telling me the same thing, and since the ban many posters have told me the same thing. There is a hidden undercurrent of true Tradition at FE but it is kept somewhat underground for fear of reprisal. The various liberals there make it almost impossible to have a meaningful discussion.

    The brave souls who stand up are the ones who get struck, but indeed it is an honor to suffer for the Truth.

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    « Reply #7 on: February 28, 2009, 11:43:07 AM »
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    Quis said that if he was a priest he would never baptize me and that I will go to hell.why?because I said that he was lax!


     :laugh1: Doesn't surprise me. There was a fellow who was banned twice from the forum ( a great accomplishment) who would always get the best of Quis in arguments (Caminus). He was, of course, banned. Quis could not point to a rule violation so he later gave some nebulous reason.

    The bottom line is that if he can't point to a specific rule why you were banned it is because you were consistently getting the better of him in debates.

    I have to say, I would suspect it is a real temptation to become prideful as a forum moderator. As Caminus said, it has seemingly gone to Quis' head. I didn't believe him at the time, but sadly it is true. "Quis" is living in a false reality.

    I should have spoken out more for Caminus a his banning was an injustice. I know now to look at how other people are treated in a forum by the moderator because that is how you will be treated as well.

    Those people who join in the calumny in order to not offend "Quis" (but have no problem offending God) are going to be quite surprised when they step over the ever moving line and find themselves gone. Then again it is a blessing for them to be gone. I should have left long ago voluntarily and would have had I known the scandal caused by the site owners' private behavior. It really is sad.

    God bless!


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    « Reply #8 on: February 28, 2009, 11:57:02 AM »
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  • I've heard "ChantCD" calumniated there as well and I don't even know him.

    Chant, do you have experience there as well?

    Thanks.

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    « Reply #9 on: February 28, 2009, 03:01:51 PM »
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  • FE is FE.  Leave them to themselves.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #10 on: February 28, 2009, 03:05:36 PM »
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  • gladius,

    Were you "banned" as well?

    Carthusian posted this over there:

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    With Stevus gone...this is just like the time gladius_varitatis was banned.  I rather enjoyed Stevus's discussions



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    « Reply #11 on: February 28, 2009, 03:15:15 PM »
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    One described your site as "full of crazy white supremacists".

    I've been described as a "crazy white supremacist" many times.  :laugh1: I posted on FE briefly but because I opposed them allowing a blasphemous Jєωess to post on there and stated that I was for segregation because it is part of the natural order of things, I was called a "racist". The idiocy on FE, particularly of QuisUtDeus is astounding.

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    « Reply #12 on: February 28, 2009, 03:22:49 PM »
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    gladius,Were you "banned" as well?


    Yes.  If you look in the old controversial folder, which should still be in the archives, I did a lot of work over there.  I got attacked regularly by people who could not control themselves and did not know as much as they thought they did, broke no rules but got booted more than once, etc., etc., blah, blah.  Let it be; let them be.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #13 on: February 28, 2009, 03:24:10 PM »
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    The idiocy on FE, particularly of QuisUtDeus is astounding.


    I agree with this statement. The hypocrisy is amazing as well. They are still calumniating me, 6 pages and counting, all the while decrying my supposed lack of charity.  :laugh1:

    It really did turn into the twilight zone over there.

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    « Reply #14 on: February 28, 2009, 03:27:25 PM »
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    gladius,Were you "banned" as well?


    Yes.  If you look in the old controversial folder, which should still be in the archives, I did a lot of work over there.  I got attacked regularly by people who could not control themselves and did not know as much as they thought they did, broke no rules but got booted more than once, etc., etc., blah, blah.  Let it be; let them be.


    Indeed. It seems to be an epidemic.

    I agree, all in due time I will. However, since they are deliberately running the calumniation thread against me, all the while decrying calumny (pretty neat trick ;) ) I need an opportunity to respond out of justice.