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Offline Aragorn151

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Re: Introduce yourself!
« Reply #1005 on: August 19, 2019, 11:06:03 PM »
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  • Ahhhaha, I love it. God bless you laddie. :) I really hope you're not the type that would rather miss mass than to attend a non-sspx latin mass. 


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    « Reply #1006 on: August 19, 2019, 11:13:29 PM »
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    I really hope you're not the type that would rather miss mass than to attend a non-sspx latin mass.
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    I really hope you're not the type that would rather miss a real Tridentine Mass offered by clerics who reject the counterfeit church, than attend a great sacrilege because it's more convenient for you to attend it.
    "I'm running things now, and I'll do everything it takes to destroy the enemies of God. Now, you join me, and I promise you, you'll never have to worry about whether you're doing the right thing or the wrong thing, because we will do the only thing."
    ~ Joseph Croix de Fer


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    Re: Introduce yourself!
    « Reply #1007 on: August 19, 2019, 11:22:26 PM »
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  • What's a "real" tridentine mass?

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    Re: Introduce yourself!
    « Reply #1008 on: August 19, 2019, 11:27:18 PM »
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    What's a "real" tridentine mass?

    This forum is for Catholics adhering to holy tradition, not people putting themselves "out there" to be proselytized. It's up to you to seek God. God knows the hearts on man. If you are sincere, He will show you way.

    I advise you to become Catholic and then return to the forum.
    "I'm running things now, and I'll do everything it takes to destroy the enemies of God. Now, you join me, and I promise you, you'll never have to worry about whether you're doing the right thing or the wrong thing, because we will do the only thing."
    ~ Joseph Croix de Fer

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    Re: Introduce yourself!
    « Reply #1009 on: August 19, 2019, 11:37:04 PM »
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  • I asked you a question of theological import and something necessary for me to understand if I am to be Catholic in your eyes. Perhaps God is to use you to bring me into the truth which you speak of. What's a "real" tridentine mass? Help me to be Catholic. 


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    Re: Introduce yourself!
    « Reply #1010 on: August 19, 2019, 11:59:44 PM »
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  • So, I'm Dominic. I found out about this forum by looking into the most niche sede nonsense I've ever come across, that is, Pope Michael I. I forget where it was even mentioned. XD I'm not SSPX so I hope that doesn't disturb anyone. I attend a diocesan latin mass on sundays. And I waste way too much time on the internet as you could probably tell. XD
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    Hi Dominic!
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    I am a newbie here getting my feet wet. My understanding was Traditional Catholics are welcome here even if not schooled in all things SSPX-related. I see Syracuse was just very unkind to you. He has only 47 posts, so maybe wait for some more feedback before you run away.
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    As you can see from my introduction in this thread, not much before yours, I got rude feedback too (and also some nice, like forlorn's!). Some on the welcoming committee at Cathinfo are not  overly enthusiastic about new folk. [And you can't go hide from them in the Woman's Forum like I can]. It can feel a bit like being sharkbait. I have 5 downvotes and four upvotes (already!). One could conclude I am disliked more than I am liked. So you are not alone with your downvotes (only people who have been here awhile can give you down and up votes; I cannot give you any, as I would for your courageous candidness).
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    But I am going to give it a little time. I will ignore the sharks who make their identities clear. Personally I feel as if I have more in common with SSPX and related groups than not. But some folks have been nice, and perhaps the sharks here are just more "activated", or starving for a fight. :boxer:
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    My husband and I attend a Diosesan Latin Mass on Sundays. Are you in NE USA?
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    "I really hope you're not the type that would rather miss mass than to attend a non-sspx latin mass."
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    But many here are truly following their convicted conscience to do just that. Just like you and I are following our convicted conscience not to miss a Sunday Mass, even if circuмstances means that has to be a NO.  I would hope that the graces people receive in the beautiful SSPX Mass would be enough to make them to be able to muster respect the sincere conscience other Catholics who are not (perhaps, yet) where they are now.  If not, something is WRONG with them (or their choices) IMO.
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    And the peace of God, which surpasseth all understanding, keep your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.

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    Re: Introduce yourself!
    « Reply #1011 on: August 20, 2019, 12:05:22 AM »
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  • Read a Roman Missal issued from 1570 - 1962, and see for yourself. Better yet, go to one that's not offered by a priest who approves of the Paul VI sacrilege as licit and Catholic.
    "I'm running things now, and I'll do everything it takes to destroy the enemies of God. Now, you join me, and I promise you, you'll never have to worry about whether you're doing the right thing or the wrong thing, because we will do the only thing."
    ~ Joseph Croix de Fer

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    Re: Introduce yourself!
    « Reply #1012 on: August 20, 2019, 12:08:07 AM »
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  • P.S. The Tridentine Mass is just the name for the Latin Mass we go to on Sundays, whether is SSPX, FSSP, or diosesan. The NO is that other, conventional, very sad Mass imposed on most Catholics.

    I have to run. Hope you don't get beat up on too much!  :fryingpan:
    And the peace of God, which surpasseth all understanding, keep your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.


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    Re: Introduce yourself!
    « Reply #1013 on: August 20, 2019, 12:16:36 AM »
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    P.S. The Tridentine Mass is just the name for the Latin Mass we go to on Sundays, whether is SSPX, FSSP, or diosesan. The NO is that other, conventional, very sad Mass imposed on most Catholics.

    Wrong. It's not just a name. The diosesan mass isn't Tridentine. It's a warped, mongrelized "mass" with Latin language and rites. The FSSP is offered by clerics whose very acts acknowledge that the Novus Ordo sacrilege is "Catholic" and "licit".
    "I'm running things now, and I'll do everything it takes to destroy the enemies of God. Now, you join me, and I promise you, you'll never have to worry about whether you're doing the right thing or the wrong thing, because we will do the only thing."
    ~ Joseph Croix de Fer

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    Re: Introduce yourself!
    « Reply #1014 on: August 20, 2019, 01:16:13 AM »
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  • Dominic, I will share something I just learned, having been here just slightly longer than you. (But I have been working very hard to get the lay of the land, because I want to know if this is a benign place, or not. I am learning!)

    You should know that you are not allowed to use the "like" and "dislike" buttons. Only regular (not newcomer) members can use those buttons. They are the (swarm of) judges, and you, the newcomer, are here to be judged. You heretic.  :heretic:

    In my first good insider look here at SSPX and SSPX-related groups (I thought it was "Trad Cath" but now inside, I think unless I am in some ways related to SSPX I am in fact a disdained outsider to a chunk of folk here), I am beginning to get the idea that this is an insiders group that probably judges each other quite a bit.  Members of this group of elites, who are so much better than us, work to keep each other toeing the line. That certainly works to feel a bit like being constantly battered to many for these elitists, who must work tirelessly to adjust and align their life so they can avoid being judged for doing it wrong. This is all very tiring. But a newbie showing up here is a delightful opportunity to turn it around and enjoy being the smug batterer, rather than the battered!  That explains the "sharkbait" feeling I got right off.




    If you aren't already an insider, then you just aren't good enough. And you being "ignorant you" means that you have nothing to offer. Just a lot to criticize (and dislike).

    (There are nice folks here too, and I am thankful. I would like to know these like-minded, sincere Catholics better, but I am beginning to doubt I can handle exposing myself to the very real element of ugliness and unkindness, whatever size it is, that is deeply rooted and at home here. And I just cannot understand how exposure to such a beautiful Mass would not transform people to be more Christlike. How?)  
    And the peace of God, which surpasseth all understanding, keep your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.

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    Re: Introduce yourself!
    « Reply #1015 on: August 20, 2019, 01:21:17 AM »
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  • Wrong. It's not just a name. The diosesan mass isn't Tridentine. It's a warped, mongrelized "mass" with Latin language and rites. The FSSP is offered by clerics whose very acts acknowledge that the Novus Ordo sacrilege is "Catholic" and "licit".
    You haven't seen "mongrelized" until you attend a Latin NO Mass. (It's a unique hybridized version of Catholics trying to be Protestant.)
    And the peace of God, which surpasseth all understanding, keep your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus.


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    Re: Introduce yourself!
    « Reply #1016 on: August 20, 2019, 05:55:32 AM »
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  • I asked you a question of theological import and something necessary for me to understand if I am to be Catholic in your eyes. Perhaps God is to use you to bring me into the truth which you speak of. What's a "real" tridentine mass? Help me to be Catholic.
    The Tridentine Mass is the rite of Mass used in the Church from the Council of Trent(tridentine comes from the word Trent) in the 1500s up to Vatican 2. Although Trent only marks the standardisation of that rite, the rite has existed in some form or another since time immemorial. Trad Catholics are those who are for some reason or another opposed to Vatican 2 and the Novus Ordo rite(the vernacular masses you'll see in any local Catholic church), and so attend Tridentine masses.

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    Re: Introduce yourself!
    « Reply #1017 on: August 20, 2019, 05:56:08 AM »
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  • I asked you a question of theological import and something necessary for me to understand if I am to be Catholic in your eyes. Perhaps God is to use you to bring me into the truth which you speak of. What's a "real" tridentine mass? Help me to be Catholic.
    Hi Dominic and welcome aboard!

    I just want to drop in for a second and add my 2 pennies into the pond for your consideration and for the consideration of others in the same situation.......


    Fr. Wathen:
    People should know that attending the Indult Mass represents a very serious compromise of their faith. Before a bishop allows the Traditional Latin Mass in one of his Novus Ordo churches, according to papal direction, he exacts this commitment: Those to whom the Mass is made available must give a verbal acceptance to the Second Vatican Council and to the new mass. Whether they know it or not, everyone who attends the Indult Mass makes the same implicit commitment. In the days of the Rome persecutions, a Catholic could escape martyrdom if he would burn the tiniest pinch of incense before one of the countless Roman gods. The commitment which the pope and bishops require is that pinch of incense.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Introduce yourself!
    « Reply #1018 on: August 20, 2019, 07:53:29 AM »
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  • And I waste way too much time on the internet as you could probably tell. XD
    Perhaps this is true, I also waste time on the internet. But in my mind, the time you spend on Cathinfo is not wasted.
    R.I.P.
    Please pray for the repose of my soul.

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    « Reply #1019 on: August 20, 2019, 07:58:38 AM »
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  • I have 5 downvotes and four upvotes (already!). One could conclude I am disliked more than I am liked. So you are not alone with your downvotes (only people who have been here awhile can give you down and up votes; I cannot give you any, as I would for your courageous candidness).
    Do not worry about up votes and down votes. Often down-votes come from misunderstanding and not from true dislike. Many of the greatest Saints were outcasts who were seemingly hated, even by the elect, until after the time of their deaths. Didn't Saint Benedict's monks who were below him try to poison him because they did not want to follow his rule?
    R.I.P.
    Please pray for the repose of my soul.