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Offline scipio_a

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« Reply #90 on: September 05, 2010, 01:52:28 AM »
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    What's the FE moderator's position?  I gathered that primarily from the information on FE other than the forum, and expected most of the members to be fairly consistent.  I was surprised by the poll, especially the two-option poll.  I think SSPX uses the 1962 Missal.  Do many use the 1956 Missal who at least agree that Benedict XVI is Pope?  Who are they?


    I conducted the 1956 poll precisely to prove to a troll or someone, that at FE the majority would avoid the NO at almost all costs, and that he, trying to push the anti SSPX line about obedience was barking up the wrong tree...

    the SSPX use the 1962,   1956 is typically inde and sede chapels of some sort.  I beleive the SSPV use it, but not certain.

    You'd have to ask Quis and Vox about their stand.  I think that like me they are peculiarly open to almost all TLM organizations to some extent.  In ther past Quis' preference was for an FSSP chapel, but he had attended SSPX several times...but I can in no way speak for them

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    « Reply #91 on: September 05, 2010, 11:27:51 PM »
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  • As I read through the various postings in this thread, I thought it would be consistent if I provided a few more details about myself, for what they are worth.  :wave:

    I am a convert to the Church, having come over from LCMS Lutheranism in 2001. I graduated from Concordia Seminary, and it was there that I began to question the teachings of the LCMS and became more interested in learning about the Catholic Church.

    The Truth won me over quite soundly.

    I became a convert to Traditionalism in 2007 after the Pope's Motu Proprio, and attend TLM at at NO parish (Motu Mass), as well as at a local Oratory.

    I respect the perspectives of the SSPX, as well as the FSSP and ICKSP, but have no agreement in various Sede Vacantist positions as they seem to create an artificial and separate Magisterium, much like Luther tried to do.

    I enjoy discussion and even debate, as long as it is profitable toward salvation and conducted with civility, but I disdain childish rants, ad hominem attacks, back-biting, and the like. There is too little time on this side of the Rekoning for that.

    I anticipate learning great things from you all at this forum, and while I will not say anything negative about my time at FE, I can already tell in this short time I have been here that this forum has a feel of comaraderie and respect I quite enjoy.

    My God bless our discussions. I look forward to learning from all of you.  :cheers:

    Sola Deo Gloria,

    CS
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    CyberSaint

    Tempus fugit memento mori
    Ad vivendum cotidie abeo


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    « Reply #92 on: September 06, 2010, 12:30:01 AM »
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  • My wife converted from ELCA Lutheranism.  The first town we lived in when we married didn't have ELCA.  So we went to LCMS a few times together and a liberal N.O. together.  We were disappointed with both (I didn't want her hearing anymore protestantism without me present so I could subsequently refute it).  We mostly attended the liberal N.O. and searched other nearby towns for a better N.O.  When we moved and found our current conservative Church, I knew she was at home and on the path to conversion.

    I am very pleased that our parish now has "Motu," and my wife seems happy to attend but doesn't want to exclusively.  She is very conservative and has been exhibiting increased pleasure with the T.L.M.  Any tips for bringing a converted Lutheran fully aboard with "Motu" would be appreciated--PM or post at your preference.

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    « Reply #93 on: September 17, 2010, 03:06:51 PM »
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  • Hi all, Cradle Roman Catholic, born the year JXXIII became pope. I stopped going to Mass in about '72 I think it was. Ran with the wrong crowd. We didn't steal, fight or hurt anyone but ourselves. Beer and pot. Woke up at age 24 and went back to school, but never practiced the Faith until  2006.

    It was time to return. Thankfully, I became a member of CA forum before I actually went to Mass again. I had no idea there was a fuss. Which is a good thing in a way.

    I left in time I think. If I had continued practicing the Faith, it sure would not have been the practice of it in the way those my Father's age and older did.(NO parish) I'd have been used to Catholicism the easy way, and may not have been willing to concern myself with errors, heresy, and apostasy.

    Which brings me back to CA. I don't give the site and it's minions an iota of credit, but the trads there were always right. And the liberals stuck out like a sore thumb. They don't get it. They dig the wiggle room. They wave their neo CCC and GERM high and say "because it says we can, it's right here.... I don't care if it may contradict Doctrine, the Bishops say it's ok". Pretty lame.

    But, I kept flip flopping. I was afraid of coming back to the Church, seeing the truth of what the post-VII version was all about , and then leaving again. I was afraid my absence may have already offended God beyond His mercy. I thought my only shot was bearing the cross in obedience and toughing it out. As long as I remained orthodox and prayed reparation, surely God, if He would still have me, would bless me for my obedience and patience.

    Finally, I came to realize the whole post-VII version is a complete about face. Everything. I feel I can now walk away from the fiasco confident I'm not walking away from the Roman Catholic Church. By God's grace I have an independent chapel 3/4 miles from my home. I spoke with the priest there, who is validly ordained, and he has welcomed me under the condition I not receive Communion until he deems it's time. I'm fine with that, and respect him for his concern for my soul. (he assured me the day would come) That is the patient obedience and cross God wants me to bear. I'm certain of it. And Mass is prayed daily there unless Fr has to be out of town, which is the real blessing, as I have a hunger for daily Mass.

    While I believe my seemingly countless days of noon Mass at a NO parish have not been entirely wasted, it was making me a spiritual wreck. I feel there are a few good Bishops in full communion with Rome and I accept BXVI as my Holy Father. But as long as the fiasco continues in my Archdiocese, I will not support it.

    Anyhow, that's all I got. And after lurking awhile, I like this place.

    God Bless all here,
    Charles

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    « Reply #94 on: September 24, 2010, 05:28:15 PM »
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  • Welcome redcandle77,

    Were you a cradle Catholic who had previously only known liberal to moderate N.O. parishes, and was unaware of other valid serious options--that was my story.  I don't think any of the N.O. parishes I had previously attended regularly or had even visited would have qualified as conservative until I relocated and found my current parish about 11 years ago.

    Being conservative by nature, I was most pleased and I knew I had found the proper reverence (as proper as N.O. can be) when I found my current parish.  I was even more elated when we got the "Motu."

    Growing up in a liberal N.O. parish, in the Bible-belt, with no population of Catholics of any considerable quantity anywhere in the region, and all that were within hundreds of miles, or even known to me, were N.O.s, I thought my only hope to ever have traditional Catholicism in my life was to fervently pray that the Church (N.O.) would eventually reject V-II and the N.O., which I still pray for that eventuality.

    I was aware of traditional Catholicism because my parents were conservative and older than parents of most people my age, and they had old Missals, Catechisms, Catholic Guides, etc., which I started reading at a young age.  That just felt right--the explanations in those old Catechisms for the Latin, the abstinence on Fridays, etc., etc.  By the time I came along in 1972, all of that was already gone--but reading those solid explanations in those books that were only about 30 or 40 years old when I was reading them, and understanding that these were the practices for so many centuries, and they were explained as though they were as unshakeable as the Rock itself, I have always yearned for a return every since that young age and something never felt right that so many centuries of our Heritage, our Faith and Religion, had been cast aside over a span of time of a decade or so.

    But even given my awareness and yearning for tradition, I thought it was history and would only come about again through fervent prayer.  I was so excited when I found a few Internet communities (particularly this one) of like-minded traditional Catholics--talking about a human being feeling like an island, a man without a home, a man who didn't really belong anywhere, etc., that was truly me.  I couldn't go protestant (though I toyed with the idea out of frustration in my late teens) because of the Truth I had known from those old books; my liberal N.O. family parish made me want to scream from the time I reached the age of discernment.  I went through a period of not going to Church in my late teens, and my father would get after me about it, he had a feeling I was considering leaving it and he was rooted enough in tradition to set me straight, and he kept getting after me weeks after I had decided not to leave (but he didn't know for sure) but while I was still attending irregularly, and we had a few big arguments, and I would rebelliously yell that I was not going anywhere else because I was more Catholic than the Catholic Church.  I felt that way then, but had a tinge of "can this really be true?"  Looking back, I have never felt more confident of the accuracy of my assertion that I am more Catholic than the Catholic Church, the N.O. that is, as that was all I knew at the time.

    Reaching out to anyone who may have a similar background as I perceive you may have, redcandle77.  Not that I was or ever have been socially shunned or discriminated against, but I have been in an area my whole life with very few Catholics of any sort, and that sort has been solely N.O. until most recently.  Until very recently, I have felt like I was 1 of maybe 150 people in the entire U.S. who holds my traditional Catholic views.  For an example of one aspect of what this does to a person over time, just take a look at my exchanges with Classiccom in the Crisis forum.

    In short, my entire life I have felt, to some degree, isolated in my views from the rest of my community by being Catholic; and isolated in my views from other Catholics by being conservative and traditional.  Anyone else have this experience?


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    « Reply #95 on: September 30, 2010, 12:36:36 PM »
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    Right.  This is my second attempt.  I'm 76, with one husband, one son and one Jack Russell.  Interests are history of WW11, hiking(not in deep snow), camping in a tent and antiques. This place seems interesting if you folks can just be patient with my computer problems. I'm also a member in good standing of the walker, Attends and gum the burger to death  club. You are now all remembered in my prayers and rosary. One other thing, if you get nasty with me I can use my cane or beat you with wet noodles.
    Take care!


    Welcome,
    Well, I'll take care not to upset you, I wouldn't want the wet noodle treatment.  You're just a young'un compared to my mother-in-law; she didn't get her first computer until she was 89. Are there any particular aspects of WWII history that interest you?  I'm more interested in the history of the home front rather then the battles. Don't worry about using the computer, I'm sure you'll get the hang of it.  Glad you joined our group! :wave:

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    « Reply #96 on: September 30, 2010, 12:49:01 PM »
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  • Welcome,
    Well, I'll take care not to upset you, I wouldn't want the wet noodle treatment.  You're just a young'un compared to my mother-in-law; she didn't get her first computer until she was 89 Are there any particular aspects of WWII history that interest you?  
    Trouble, now I need my kid to help me with this.
    Yup, I'm interested in the European area in respect to escape lines, the French resistance and as many escape stories I can read. I have quite a collection. I do have a book on what to do in the US if attacked (believe it was written in 42.) It reads very funny since the Germans did not have a plane to reach N. America.

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    « Reply #97 on: October 01, 2010, 09:43:10 AM »
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  • Hi!  I'm new here today.  FE appears to have been suspeneded andI need my daily dose of discussion about tradition.  I am going through withdrawal.

    About myself:  I am a 40 something stay-at-home mom with 5 beautiful children.  I am a convert to Catholicism and it took me almost 13 years to find tradition and begin going to a TLM.  Right now, I go to the diocesan TLM because that's the best I can do.  I don't post a lot on FE and probably won't post much here either.  I tend to read and try to learn.  Sometimes I will post a particular question that I have.  

    I hope to learn something here & make some friends.

    Some here may recognize me here from FE because I am using the some user name.


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    « Reply #98 on: October 03, 2010, 07:49:35 AM »
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  • Hi everyone!

    50 years old and raised a traditionalist.

    Looking forward to learning and occasionally contributing.

    I'm the same Stubborn from AQ, FE etc.

     
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    « Reply #99 on: October 12, 2010, 10:38:23 PM »
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  • Hello everyone.  I just joined.  I'm Kailyn, and I'm 22. :wave:

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    « Reply #100 on: October 13, 2010, 12:19:47 AM »
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  • Thanks for the welcome!  I would consider myself a traditionalist Catholic, though from all the boards I've found in the past couple of days, that has a pretty broad definition depending where you are!  I've only just found this forum.  I've seen many many in my recent quest, but this one looked the most promising.  


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    « Reply #101 on: October 20, 2010, 03:49:02 PM »
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  • Vigo89,
    Welcome to both of you! I am always very excited to hear of conversions.  In this day and age of such vast knowledge that can be gained on the internet, it is both an exciting time to discover Catholicism, but also one that comes with an increased need for due diligence since you will find differing ideas on Catholicism on the internet.  You will do best to read books that have an imprimatur on the inside cover which is the seal of the Church that the book contains no error.  Look for books that were written before 1960 and with an imprimatur.  

    May I suggest some that I have recommended over the years to my friends, both Protestant and Catholic?

    The first is a pretty thorough Catechism that is easy to understand and wonderful for beginners as well as cradle Catholics.  It is My Catholic Faith by Bishop Louis LaRavoire Morrow originally written in 1949.  The new edition is $42.00 but I found a used edition here:

    http://usedmarketplace.borders.com/booksearch?qwork=4531446&matches=23&keyword=my+catholic+faith&cm_sp=works*listing*title

    The next 2 are short booklets written in 1958 by a former Protestant (or Methodist?) minister named Paul Whitcomb.  They are informative, straightforward and easy to understand.
    The first is his own story of conversion and is titled Confession of a Roman Catholic.  
    The 2nd is an explanation of many of the fundamental Catholic truths that he explains along with the teaching from the Bible regarding each.  It is called The Catholic Church has the Answer. You can find both for a reasonable price here:
    http://www.miqcenter.com/books/0-chteachg.shtml

    and here:
    http://www.miqcenter.com/books/0-apologcs.shtml

    You will also find catechisms on those pages, such as the Baltimore Catechisms and other great books, but since I think we're supposed to keep posts in this category short, I'll bring this to a close for now.

    If you contact the good sisters at that last site, they can give you other suggestions.

    Best wishes with your journey.  Pray to the Holy Ghost and the Blessed Virgin Mary for guidance.  
    With prayers for you,
    Ora pro me

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    « Reply #102 on: October 21, 2010, 02:03:20 PM »
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  • Vigo89,

    I have another suggestion for you while you're waiting for your books to arrive.  I'd like to recommend a website with Catholic sermons that you can listen to.  When you click on the link, scroll down a bit more than halfway and you'll see a whole series of sermons by Fr. Benedict Hughes on the catechism, chapter by chapter - 38 in all.  He even has a great sermon on the appendix at the end of the catechism, which covers "Why I am a Catholic".  I've used these for review and they are a great way to learn the fundamental truths of the Catholic Faith.

    Enjoy:
    http://traditionalcatholicsermons.org/index_files/SermonsOnTheCatechism.htm

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    « Reply #103 on: October 21, 2010, 06:54:56 PM »
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  • I attend a very traditional mainstream Catholic parish that offers the Traditional Latin Mass.  Parishes I have previously attended and visited have let go of tradition to varying degrees.  I have found in this strong traditional parish more of the fullness of Catholicism and more of the factors alive and vibrant why I am Catholic.

    I encourage you to find a very traditional mainstream Catholic parish (with a strong preference for one that offers the Traditional Latin Mass) or an SSPX chapel.

    I echo what others have said about getting the old books.  I'm 38 (ancient compare to you) and even I was taught out of watered down books.  But my parents had old Catechisms around the house that I read and learned very much from those sources.  Also, for a Catholic Bible, I strongly recommend the Douay-Rheims Version (I think the one I use is one a Bishop Challoner worked with the translation in the 17th century).

    Also, the SSPX website offers a great "beginners' kit" for those beginning to attend the Latin Mass that may be helpful for you as well.  Look around on their site and I believe you can find this is free.  Also, Angelus Press is a good source for books true to the Catholic Faith.

    If you are near any large city, the Traditional Latin Mass should be available.  Otherwise, you may have difficulty finding it.  If TLM is not going to be a practical option for you, I encourage you to find as traditional mainstream Catholic parish as you can find to attend, and live by the traditions as best you can learn them.  Between this site and some other traditional websites and forums, and especially if you can get your hands on some old books, you should be able to learn the fullness of Catholic traditions on your own fairly well.

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    « Reply #104 on: November 01, 2010, 07:52:48 PM »
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    Hello all,  
         I am 21, my husband, who is 23, and I have been married for 3 years.  We were both raised protestant and our fathers are both protestant ministers.  My husband began attending my church when he came to college and we still attend there.  We have served as the youth leaders and on the worship team in the past.  About a year ago, my husband was sent a book called "Why Do Catholics Do That."  That book sent our life into chaos.  Nearly everything I knew about Catholicism (which wasn't much) was challenged, as well as what I knew about my own faith.  
         A few months ago, we both agreed that though we do not understand everything, and most likely will not for a long time, we need to convert.  We still have not sprung the news on our families, but we have planned to leave our church after Christmas, and begin our new journey at the first of the year.  If you have any suggestions, resources, or encouragement please share.


    Hi Vigo,
    Welcome!
    I converted from the Lutheran church when I was 21!  I felt like a kid in a candy store.  I loved all my new friends the saints, and Jesus and Mary.  It is the feast of All Saints today!
    At this juncture in your life, I would remind you that back in 1969, the Vatican 11 modern church started with its new protestantized service called the Novus Ordo.
    We are all TRADITIONAL Catholics here.  We can direct you to traditional priests in your area for instruction.  
    The Novus ordo modern church is not very different from what you left!
    :wave: