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Offline SeanJohnson

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Internet Censorship
« on: June 06, 2019, 07:11:40 AM »
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  • just heard on the radio this morning that YouTube and other internet sites will begin censoring “politically incorrect” content, specifically mentioning “white supremacist” and “holocaust denial” content.

    It seems that the window for the uncensored transmission of information is coming to an end.

    In the not too distant future, information deemed “unacceptable” by the surveillance state will need to be relegated to the darkweb
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-

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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #1 on: June 06, 2019, 08:09:30 AM »
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  • Pretty soon they will be able to read our minds and whenever we even think bad thoughts, they will come for us.
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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #2 on: June 06, 2019, 08:55:42 AM »
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  • "The thought police would get him just the same. He had committed--would have committed, even if he had never set pen to paper--the essential crime that contained all others in itself. Thoughtcrime, they called it. Thoughtcrime was not a thing that could be concealed forever. You might dodge successfully for a while, even for years, but sooner or later they were bound to get you." [Book 1, Chapter 1] 1984

    “Thoughtcrime does not entail death: thoughtcrime IS death.”
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    Offline Stanley N

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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #3 on: June 06, 2019, 11:17:51 AM »
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  • The Church traditionally condemned freedom of the press, and had the Index. From Mirari Vos:

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    Here We must include that harmful and never sufficiently denounced freedom to publish any writings whatever and disseminate them to the people, which some dare to demand and promote with so great a clamor.
    http://www.papalencyclicals.net/greg16/g16mirar.htm

    A traditional Catholic shouldn't defend unrestricted free speech to defend publishing unpopular ideas.

    Rather, show that the ideas are correct and defend the publication of truth because it is true.

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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #4 on: June 08, 2019, 11:37:10 PM »
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  • The Church traditionally condemned freedom of the press, and had the Index. From Mirari Vos:
    http://www.papalencyclicals.net/greg16/g16mirar.htm

    A traditional Catholic shouldn't defend unrestricted free speech to defend publishing unpopular ideas.

    Rather, show that the ideas are correct and defend the publication of truth because it is true.
    I agree. We have the right to proclaim the truth.


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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #5 on: June 08, 2019, 11:48:05 PM »
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  • The Church traditionally condemned freedom of the press, and had the Index. From Mirari Vos:
    http://www.papalencyclicals.net/greg16/g16mirar.htm

    A traditional Catholic shouldn't defend unrestricted free speech to defend publishing unpopular ideas.

    Rather, show that the ideas are correct and defend the publication of truth because it is true.
    Indeed!  God bless YouTube, Facebook, Google, and Twitter!  They are doing the right thing.  And hopefully, you Holocaust deniers will be censored at the least.  And worse for you Jew critics.

    Down with free speech.  The guardians of political correctness--such as the ADL and the Southern Poverty Law Center--know best!  You all must be deradicalized because you are out-of-control reactionaries.  You must be muzzled.
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    Offline SeanJohnson

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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #6 on: June 09, 2019, 12:16:49 AM »
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  • The Church traditionally condemned freedom of the press, and had the Index. From Mirari Vos:
    http://www.papalencyclicals.net/greg16/g16mirar.htm

    A traditional Catholic shouldn't defend unrestricted free speech to defend publishing unpopular ideas.

    Rather, show that the ideas are correct and defend the publication of truth because it is true.

    I was not suggesting/defending such a thing as "freedom of speech" (a Masonic concept I have denounced many times on this forum).

    I was suggesting that the time to discuss things such as 911, fake holohoax, etc. on the internet is coming to an end.
    Romans 5:20 "But where sin increased, grace abounded all the more."

    -I retract any and all statements I have made that are incongruent with the True Faith, and apologize for ever having made them-

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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #7 on: June 09, 2019, 07:19:38 AM »
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  • The Church traditionally condemned freedom of the press, and had the Index. From Mirari Vos:
    http://www.papalencyclicals.net/greg16/g16mirar.htm

    A traditional Catholic shouldn't defend unrestricted free speech to defend publishing unpopular ideas.

    Rather, show that the ideas are correct and defend the publication of truth because it is true.
    I agree, but I don’t think SJ believes in “unrestricted free speech”.


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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #8 on: June 09, 2019, 11:52:25 AM »
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  • I agree, but I don’t think SJ believes in “unrestricted free speech”.
    i didn't say SJ did nor did I quote or refer to SJ.

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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #9 on: June 09, 2019, 01:44:04 PM »
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  • i didn't say SJ did nor did I quote or refer to SJ.
    Sorry, I figured that you were referring to the OP (SeanJ).

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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #10 on: June 10, 2019, 05:18:46 PM »
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  • I agree. We have the right to proclaim the truth.
    ((They)) don't care about your "rights".
    The sooner you (and everyone else concerned) realizes this the better.


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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #11 on: June 10, 2019, 05:31:49 PM »
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  • just heard on the radio this morning that YouTube and other internet sites will begin censoring “politically incorrect” content, specifically mentioning “white supremacist” and “holocaust denial” content.

    It seems that the window for the uncensored transmission of information is coming to an end.

    In the not too distant future, information deemed “unacceptable” by the surveillance state will need to be relegated to the darkweb
    As time goes on, it will get worse and worse. This is the same MO that the commies employed during all those red revolutions across the globe years ago. This country is now in the process of a "soft" red revolution as we speak. But they are using the same NKVD tactics that they used by the Soviets used to silence all opposition, it's subtle now, but once they start turning the corner, it will become all too real. Really, the time to strike back is right now, especially with this administration.
    But the sad part, the Donald is squarely in the jews pocket, specifically the Zionists here and abroad.
    I remember E Michael Jones pointedly stating that Trump will have to eventually make a decision whether it's America first or Israel first, well we all see clearly where he stands and now Jones is being erased off YT and eventually the Net. I see he is frantically posting videos and being interviewed just about every other day in order to get the message out there before they completely ban him all together. Let the censorship begin.

    Offline Stanley N

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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #12 on: June 11, 2019, 05:22:51 PM »
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  • The thing is, censorship happens on nearly every forum-type site. Each site has its "orthodoxy" and will remove posts for questioning that orthodoxy. I think many of us have some experience of it. Try advocating sedevacantism or certain Feeney positions on certain conservative Catholic sites.

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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #13 on: June 11, 2019, 05:49:50 PM »
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  • Sorry, I figured that you were referring to the OP (SeanJ).
    No, I wasn't, but I have seen the "free speech" notion elsewhere on conservative Catholic sites. It's often a reaction to being censored, which is understandable to some extent. Still, people advocating "free speech" vs. censorship often don't understand how a website "orthodoxy" develops, or what to do about it.

    Forum "orthodoxies" are sometimes chosen positions (eg those Catholic sites that explicitly disallow sedevacantism), but in non-religious contexts like googtube it usually means some topics generated a lot of copmlaints, and were disallowed to save moderator time. Claiming a conspiracy, is rarely going to break through that. Also can't do much against bad will. However, pointing out that something censored was actually true has a fair chance with someone of semi-good will.

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    Re: Internet Censorship
    « Reply #14 on: June 13, 2019, 11:37:35 PM »
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  • ((They)) don't care about your "rights".
    The sooner you (and everyone else concerned) realizes this the better.
    It doesn't matter whether 'they' care about our rights. What matters is that we give witness to the truth.

     

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