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Offline Raoul76

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Interesting experience saying the Rosary.
« on: January 29, 2010, 01:41:18 AM »
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  • Usually I say the Rosary out loud, but today I had some phlegm in my throat and was too lazy to spit it out, so I decided to say the prayers mentally.  I don't like to do this because I like to hear the words being pronounced.  In my mind they come out all garbled, probably because I let them tumble out instead of really thinking them through.

    This was happening again tonight.  I was just kind of churning out the prayers in my mind, but I wanted each one to register solidly.  At about this moment, another mental voice overtook my own -- a deeper, more resonant one.  It began to say the prayers very, very slowly.  But each time I tried to rush the voice, it refused.  It would not be hurried.  And I had to go at its pace, the same way that someone with OCD has to flip the lightswitch five times each time he passes by.  If I didn't follow the voice, it would have felt like I was disobeying an order.

    I followed the voice along, doing whatever it wanted, knowing that if it were a demonic visitation it wouldn't have been increasing my piety, restraining my impatience, and helping my devotion improve.  Often when I say the Rosary, without knowing it, I'm like a factory worker counting the minutes until his shift is over.  I am saying the prayers with more duty than love, or with a forced love.  This time I was in a sort of trance.  By the time I got to the Visitation, I was almost able to mentally smell the spicy leaves of a tree that Mary walked by on her way to Elizabeth's house.  There were moments that I didn't want to end ( although other moments where I was still impatient ).

    For some reason, the voice hurried the "Our Father" along, but every other prayer was said exceedingly slow.  Towards the final prayers, suddenly the voice disappeared and was replaced with my own higher, reedier voice, but at the same pace.

    I have the feeling that the Holy Ghost just taught me to say the Rosary directly, since I have no one else to help me.  I didn't check when I began, but I think it took about twice as long to get through the Joyful Mysteries as usual.  It's almost like I never really understood the Rosary until now.  

    Try to say the Rosary SLOW -- 40 minutes for one set of mysteries.  It is like having an impatient, restive heart doused with cooling water.  I never realized before just how impatient that I really am when saying prayers.  This is only the beginning of the improvements that I need to make.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    « Reply #1 on: January 29, 2010, 02:09:16 AM »
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  • Mike, I'm glad you told us this.  Here are the immediate problems with what you have said:

    1) You presuppose that the voice was not demonic, despite that there was substantial evidence that it was - the hurrying of the Our Father.

    2) You automatically assume it was the Holy Ghost, rather than repelling and ignoring it, as you should have.  Even were God Himself to bestow upon someone a private revelation, He would expect them to wait until the clergy could come to a decision as to whether or not it is worthy of belief.  God would not demand the obedient assent of the person He had so contacted, until the clergy had given their permission.

    Now, since you are not aware of any Catholic clergy, you have nobody to make such a call, therefore I believe the correct response is to repel the "voice" and ignore it.

    You know very well that hell can usurp or distort devotion to Mary to catch unwary souls, especially those who desire sensible and tangible results from their devotions.  This distortion would obviously start off subtly.

    I implore you with all my strength to repel these supernatural phenomena that keep happening to you because they are not only not necessary for salvation, but you are showing yourself to be all too eager to receive them.


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    « Reply #2 on: January 29, 2010, 02:20:06 AM »
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  •   Praying in hurry is demonic??

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    « Reply #3 on: January 29, 2010, 06:35:02 AM »
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  • When it comes to praying the Holy Rosary, this is the method that has been most fruitful for me.

    Before actually getting into the prayers of each mystery (i.e. before each decade), I spend a few minutes (5-10) meditating on the mystery.  It's only AFTER this meditation that I begin the Our Father and Hail Marys, which I then try addressing to Our Lord and Our Blessed Mother in the context of the mystery.

    I'm sure that Our Lady meant the Rosary to be an aid to meditation, which is why she requested that people spend 15 minutes meditating on the mysteries in addition to just reciting the Rosary for the First Saturday devotion.

    I am bothered by just having to rattle through the words and so I don't particularly like joining in public rosaries.  But that's just me.

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    « Reply #4 on: January 29, 2010, 07:24:02 AM »
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  •   As an OCD person I do exactly the opposite. In order to distract myself from unwanted thoughts, I focus on the words, their sounds and my lips movements. I actually choose noisy places for prayer to get rid of my bad thoughts.


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    « Reply #5 on: January 29, 2010, 10:07:55 AM »
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  • I can say the rosary faster out loud, trying to do it mentally slows me down, I have to listen to the voice in my head think through the words.  Maybe that's what you have experienced.  

    I don't doubt that the holy ghost or Jesus would put strong ideas or thoughts into your head, I have had it happen to me.

     :pray:
    To Jesus thru Mary, for the greater glory of God.

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    « Reply #6 on: January 29, 2010, 10:38:30 AM »
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  • When I say the rosary, I feel that I have gone to Heaven.

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    « Reply #7 on: January 29, 2010, 11:02:09 AM »
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     Praying in hurry is demonic??


    eveything to Raoul is evil...very Pharisitical....but saying the Rosary fast might lead to the ultimate evil for Raoul, NFP and sex....maybe, in case of Raoul at least,Roscoe has something on Jansenism...at least one case...
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    « Reply #8 on: January 29, 2010, 11:57:03 PM »
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     Praying in hurry is demonic??


    Catholics are to pray REVERENTLY.

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    « Reply #9 on: January 29, 2010, 11:58:12 PM »
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  • If the voice said "forgive us our trespasses" or "Pray for us sinners" it was NOT voice from heaven.

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    « Reply #10 on: February 01, 2010, 09:15:11 AM »
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     As an OCD person I do exactly the opposite. In order to distract myself from unwanted thoughts, I focus on the words, their sounds and my lips movements. I actually choose noisy places for prayer to get rid of my bad thoughts.


    If you have the problem of being distracted, another thing that might help is listening to chant while you pray the rosary. What's nice about chant is not only is it meant to uplift the soul in prayer to God, but also, unlike music in our own language, the Latin is a bit less distracting because it IS foreign, so the mind doesn't seem to get caught up on it as much... or at least that has been my experience.

    I used to sometimes do the same thing as you when my interior distractedness was TOO bad, because the fight to focus over some noise seemed at least to focus my mind toward that direction. But I think praying to good "noise" like chant was much better. It was calming instead of irritating like fighting to keep out worldly noise is, and as I said, chant naturally helps us TOWARD a prayerful state.

    Just an idea. Fortunately, we all know someone who just happens to sell chant, too.  :rolleyes:
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    « Reply #11 on: February 04, 2010, 02:58:32 PM »
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  • Some important info on the Rosary http://cathom.blogspot.com/search/label/Rosary

    Important passages from the Secret of the Rosary:
    http://writer.zoho.com/public/immaculate/Secret-of-the-Rosary

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    « Reply #12 on: February 04, 2010, 03:03:05 PM »
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    I am bothered by just having to rattle through the words and so I don't particularly like joining in public rosaries. But that's just me.


    Those are my sentiments exactly.  I think they try to imitate the liturgical prayer of the priest and it just comes out badly, mitigating against the spirit of prayer.  

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    « Reply #13 on: February 04, 2010, 03:09:57 PM »
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    I followed the voice along, doing whatever it wanted, knowing that if it were a demonic visitation it wouldn't have been increasing my piety, restraining my impatience, and helping my devotion improve.


    I'm not trying to rain on your parade, but this isn't true.  Demons are known to increase feelings of piety and reverence only to mislead elsewhere.  The masters will tell you to avoid or ignore voices, visions, etc.  In fact, to give yourself over to them is almost certain to invite the demons.

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    « Reply #14 on: February 04, 2010, 03:19:40 PM »
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  • Whether from heaven or hell or if it was just something in your own head, not important. What's important is just that you prayed the rosary. Ask the Blessed Mother and your Guardian Angel to protect and watch over you before you pray next time. Then I wouldn't give it any further thought.
    Loving mother of the Redeemer, gate of heaven, star of the sea, assist your people who have fallen yet strive to rise again. To the wonderment of nature you bore your Creator, Yet remained a virgin after as before. You who received Gabriel's joyful greeti