Catholic Info

Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: parentsfortruth on May 25, 2013, 01:06:33 AM

Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: parentsfortruth on May 25, 2013, 01:06:33 AM
http://www.fatima.org/pdf/Brochure_PathtoPeace_2013.pdf

 :confused1:
Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: Neil Obstat on May 25, 2013, 01:41:32 AM
Quote from: parentsfortruth
http://www.fatima.org/pdf/Brochure_PathtoPeace_2013.pdf

 :confused1:


Ron Paul needs no introduction..........



G. Edward Griffin

His better-known works include:

The Creature from Jekyll Island,
World without Cancer,
and
The Fearful Master.

Mr. Griffin is Founder and President of American Media,
The Cancer Cure Foundation, and Freedom Force International.



PETER LANCE, ESq.

A 5-time Emmy Award winner for news and docuмentary, Mr. Lance has
written and co-produced programs for ABC’s Nightline, 20/20, Crime Story
and Miami Vice, among others. His best-selling books expose the failure
and corruption of the U.S. Intelligence services, which he has proven could
have prevented the 911 attacks.

His latest book, Deal with the Devil shows the tragedy that results
when moral principle is abandoned for “practical” aims. Mr. Lance shows
us, with irrefutable proof, that secular governance which ignores morality
leads us into disaster after disaster. He has promised those who attend
the conference a power-point presentation he says we will never forget.
Mr. Lance’s presentation will underscore the theme of the conference:
business as usual will no longer do. We need a radical course correction
– NOW!


THE HON. ROMEO DALLAIRE

Lieutenant General (Ret.) Romeo Dallaire (OC CMM GOQ MSC) is
a Canadian Senator
who served for 35 years in the Canadian
Armed Forces.

A decorated General, Dallaire who rescued tens of thousands in 1994
from the Rwanda genocide, is a hero and an outspoken leader in the 21st
Century. His best-selling book, Shake Hands With the Devil, is a stirring
account of his experience as the Force Commander of the United Nations
Assistance Mission Rwanda, exposing the failures of the international
community to stop the worst genocide in the 20th century. The book,
adapted into a full-length feature film Shake Hands With the Devil won an
Emmy Award. Dallaire’s moving story exemplifies to an extreme degree the
results of being given responsibility without authority. He was
limited by immovable parameters, overseen by the U.N., an organization
that didn’t fully support the mission, and put into situations that forced
him to question ethics every step of the way. Dallaire’s presentation
discusses leadership and conflict resolution, illustrated with stories of
his own experiences. He will inspire listeners to address pressing ethical
and moral issues. He insists that governments put humanity above political
and economic interests.



THE HON. MARIO BORGHEZIO

Member of the European Union Parliament,
Mr. Borghezio wants Europe to return to its
Catholic roots. He is a strong supporter of the
Fatima Message. He is a leading supporter
in the petition to the E.U Parliament
regarding the Consecration of Russia


Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: Thursday on May 25, 2013, 01:49:18 AM
Funny, I saw G Edward Griffin in one Alex Jone's films. It may have been the Obama deception and i noticed one of Archbishop Lefebvres books on the bookshelf behind him.  I wonder if there is any chance he is Catholic.
Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: InfiniteFaith on May 25, 2013, 03:06:06 AM
I like Ron Paul
Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: parentsfortruth on May 25, 2013, 03:40:44 AM
Oh me too. But to have a non-Catholic speak, is kind of unusual. I know Ron Paul had traditional Catholics working in his offices in Congress over the years, I just didn't know that Ron Paul was a Catholic. That's what's kind of boggling my mind right now.  :confused1:
Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: Tiffany on May 25, 2013, 05:45:03 AM
This a pro-life NO conference?  
Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: Incredulous on May 25, 2013, 06:47:36 AM
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Oh me too. But to have a non-Catholic speak, is kind of unusual. I know Ron Paul had traditional Catholics working in his offices in Congress over the years, I just didn't know that Ron Paul was a Catholic. That's what's kind of boggling my mind right now.  :confused1:



Good eye for a story, ParentsforTruth.

Signs again that, "the world" must face the reality and requests of Our Lady of Fatima.
Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: Thursday on May 25, 2013, 07:42:31 AM
Salza's the guy who claims that the short form of the consecration of the host is sufficient to make a valid sacrament. I suppose some would say this is irrelavent now that they have corrected the wording back to  "for you and for many" but I thought he went to great length to defend a pretty indefensable position.

Then again there have been theologians on both sides of the debate for a long time.

I wonder how welcome "sedes" are to this conference.
Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: Thursday on May 25, 2013, 08:14:19 AM



http://www.novusordowatch.org/the_chair_is_still_empty.htm#.UaCz0tgnCeA

The Chair Is Still Empty

PART 1

On July 15, 2010, The Remnant published an article by Milwaukee-based Mr. John Salza, J.D., critiquing the theological position known as sedevacantism (from the Latin sede vacante, “the chair being empty”), which basically holds that the claimants to the papal throne after the death of Pope Pius XII on October 9, 1958, are illegitimate and not true Popes at all, and that the church of which John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul I, John Paul II, and Benedict XVI have been the heads is not the Catholic Church of our Lord Jesus Christ but a modernist institution masquerading as the Catholic Church, with the ultimate aim to eradicate true, traditional Catholicism from the face of the earth in order to lead souls to hell...
Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: parentsfortruth on May 25, 2013, 10:40:49 AM
Yeah I'm not getting a good feeling about this conference at all. The issue I'm having is that Father Gruner was supposed to be at that conference at the end of December for the resistance, and he mysteriously didn't show up. And now, he's got a conference for the Fatima Center that he's inviting people such as John Salza and Ron Paul. I dunno. This doesn't make a lot of sense.
Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: Marlelar on May 25, 2013, 05:49:53 PM
It looks like there are many non-Catholics and others of dubious reputation.  

Michael Matt!?! :faint:

Marsha
Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: Thursday on May 25, 2013, 06:25:15 PM
I don't have a problem with Ron Paul being there or John Salza, there is bound to be a few pseudo traditionalists in any traditional conference. Just don't want to go to a 'pseudo traditionalist only' conference.
Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: songbird on May 25, 2013, 07:03:22 PM
I thought that I read somewhere, that Ron Paul is for civil unions/ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs?  DId anyone else on this forum come across that?
Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: Catholic Samurai on May 25, 2013, 11:04:41 PM
Quote from: parentsfortruth
Oh me too. But to have a non-Catholic speak, is kind of unusual. I know Ron Paul had traditional Catholics working in his offices in Congress over the years, I just didn't know that Ron Paul was a Catholic. That's what's kind of boggling my mind right now.  :confused1:


From Christian Science Monitor

Quote
Paul is married to Carolyn “Carol” Wells, with whom he has five children: Ronald “Ronnie” Paul Jr., Lori Paul Pyeatt, Randal “Rand” Paul (the junior senator from Kentucky), Robert Paul, and Joy Paul-LeBlanc; and 17 grandchildren. Raised Lutheran, Paul is now a church-going Baptist who opposes abortion, but prefers to keep his faith personal. “I have never been one who is comfortable talking about my faith in the political arena,” he said on his campaign website.


I don't understand why Fr.Gruner or the Fatima Center would invite someone to speak at their conference who's a social-liberal in the eyes of the Church. Unless Dr.Paul thinks there's something to Fatima (which isn't likely), I'm pretty sure whatever he'll discuss will be void of religion and anything that has to do with the restoration of the Social Kingship of Christ, so I can only wonder what he intends to get out of this event.
Title: Interesting choice of Speakers at the Fatima Conference
Post by: Incredulous on May 26, 2013, 06:15:43 AM
Quote from: Marlelar
It looks like there are many non-Catholics and others of dubious reputation.  

Michael Matt!?! :faint:

Marsha


Well, Mr. Matt is part of the neo Trad media status quo.