definition of "conservative"
This is Bishop Williamson's definition:
“Conservative” Catholics: who conserve little but their faith in faithless churchmen.
And the most faithless of all churchmen is the Newpope B16.
In contrast to the "conservative" wishy-washy word which means nothing or everything, a traditional Catholic is a Catholic who stands behind the entire tradition of the Church, i.e. who stands behind the entire doctrine of the Church including all the anti-modernistic encyclicals of the pre-Vatican Popes and in particular those of Pius IX (Quanta Cura & Syllabus) and Pius X (Pascendi) which the Archbishop mainly used to fight against the Newpopes' and Newrome's new religion of man.
A traditional Catholic naturally opposes the Newchurch and its (current) Newpope, too, because B16 is an anti-traditional and "subjectivist Pope who has no possible understanding of objective Catholic Tradition" (quotation from Bishop Williamson).
From what you [Augstine] have written (and we can only go by what you've written; we can't read your mind), you seem to be supporting those (+Fellay,
Well, of course Augstine is a Bp Fellay supporter. Just read his articles, he supports the sellout to Newrome and hence the betrayal of the Faith of the Church, and he attacks with bad words us who resist such a betrayal. All the supporters of the modernistic Newpope B16/Ratzinger do support this betrayal because they belong together.
Augstine is just another accordista from the Bp Fellay gang who destroys Archbishop Lefebvre's SSPX and who doesn't belong to this last English-speaking anti-accordista forum but just damages it.
The administrator Matthew said more than once that the Bp Fellay accordistas have no place here because we're experiencing the death struggle of the Archbishop's traditional SSPX and can't always re-start the "good reasons not to sellout to Newrome" discussion.
I support the SSPX but they're not the Church. I've supported Bishop Williamson, particularly when many others attacked him with the same kind of intellectual dishonesty I see here. Bishop Williamson also isn't the Pope.
I didn't found the Society, I don't lead it, I'm not even a member, but then I expect, many of you who comment here are not members and merely attend chapel services there for your part.
Whatever happens to the SSPX, the Catholic Church will continue on, She is not dependent upon a society founded, all the same, by a great churchman in the early seventies.
I'm not happy about how Bishop Williamson was marginalized, and I"m not happy about some of the litigious policies of you know who, or the fact that +Fellay
seemed to pander to the Jews.
But, one thing you'll have to respect, or not, is that Bishop Fellay was appointed to lead the Society by Archbishop Lefebvre. Also, like it or not, the Society showed a tremendous amount of unity during the General Chapter. So those of you who despise Bishop Fellay and believe he is a turncoat will have to contend with that.
Bishop Williamson may strike out alone, but he is unlikely to leave with very many in my opinion. We'll just have to see.
Many of you also maintain that the Jews control the Church. If I believed that the Jews controlled the Catholic Church to the point where it vitiated its status as the Bride of Christ, I couldn't believe the claims the Catholic Church has always had about Herself. I have no idea how those who do believe this has occurred are able to support their faith with such a contradiction, but if they live with the contradiction, that's their battle, not mine. I can only point out that it exists.
Sometimes things being what they are, you just live with what you can personally live with.
You can pretend all you want to know how Archbishop Lefebvre would have acted with respect to the agreement, but none of you really know. You may feel that Bishop Fellay has betrayed the Society by enterttaining the agrement, but you don't know. You may complain about the "secrecy" in the talks, but you don't have any right to know either.
I was born in a family that was traditionalist before the Vatican Council and was already fighting the battles ongoing today in the early 19th century with respect to Liberal clergy, wolves in sheep's clothing and all of that.
Another thing I believe is that the Catholic Church is going to survive this. The only thing that's unclear to me that's of real importance is my own salvation, which involves many of my actions, here on this board, in the conduct of my personal life and my cultivation of the virtues....
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