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Offline alaric

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Immediate results of a Trump or Clinton victory on Nov 8th....
« on: November 05, 2016, 12:38:36 PM »
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  •  I personally believe chaos is going to ensue. More immediate following a Trump win and a slower, but stronger response if/when Clinton is allowed to steal the election.

    Because, that is the only way she is going to win. Everybody and I do mean just about everybody I know is either going to vote for Trump or, in the very least, NOT going to vote for the witch Clinton.

    However, the few radicals that have voiced they are voting clinton, are seriously deluded that Trump is another "hitler" and have stated there will be violence across the country as a result. Let's face it folks, there's already violence now, they have already ATTACKED Trump supporters nationwide during the campaign and even shut down a few of his rallies due to intimidation. It's only going to get worse.

    But the reality is, if Clinton is elected, it will give the criminals and revolutionaires basically carte blanche to persecute any last semblance of resistance to their agenda. They will literally go on the attack even worse if Clinton is elected, because they will have the full force and support of the federal govt, the military and lying, media  propaganda to support them. Then, just when they push so much, there will be some inevitable blowback and a hit back with a force they couldn't imagine. then it will get ugly. You might see the country actually spiral out of control into an undeclared cινιℓ ωαr. Which is where we're heading anyway if nothing changes.


    Anyway, the way I see it, a Trump victory, a lot of initial liberal/left-wing  chaos that will eventually either be suppressed or run out of steam and whither in time. Or a Clinton victory and a lot of pissed off right-wingers and conservatives that will grovel at first but will try and rebound democratically, but will be attacked and preseucted by the revolutionaries and forced to defend themselves for theirr very existence, with a possible cινιℓ ωαr ensuing.

    These are both possibilities IMO.


    Any other comjecture out there?


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    Immediate results of a Trump or Clinton victory on Nov 8th....
    « Reply #1 on: November 05, 2016, 01:08:17 PM »
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  • A lot of people are wondering the same thing as you, alaric.

    One thing I have learned in my half-century of life, though, is to never underestimate people's natural tendency toward intertia, or in this case, torpor.  Look how the North Africans just gradually accepted the replacement of Christianity with Islam. Or the peoples of Northern Europe the substitution of the Catholic Church with Lutheranism and Anglicanism.  Or so many different nations the acceptance of dictatorial and/or Communist regimes. Or the replacement of Catholicism with a liberal pirate "church".  Most people just don't stand up and fight when it comes right down to it. They talk big around the water cooler on their coffee break, but when the rubber hits the road they're nowhere to be found.

    I guess most of us are like that too. We're just trying to get by. If things don't get too bad too fast, we'll just simply adapt, like the frog in the boiling water.

    I think some hotheads will be out shouting and maybe even smashing and burning a few things, but I can't see a cινιℓ ωαr breaking out. That would involve turning off the TV, putting down the beer or the hash pipe, and getting off the sofa. Perhaps I underestimate my own people, but I just can't imagine us getting excited enough about anything except the Super Bowl or the latest X-box release to actually get up off our fat behinds and do something.

    Maybe I'm wrong. We'll find out soon!
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    Immediate results of a Trump or Clinton victory on Nov 8th....
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  • I think we should join together in prayer if we had a true Pope he might even declare all Catholics to unite in prayer for help from Heaven.  However, the so-called pope today would never come out with that request.  
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    Immediate results of a Trump or Clinton victory on Nov 8th....
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  • In the state I now live in there is no going to the precinct to vote except the
    county building 30 miles away. I have to vote by mail and cast my vote by
    mail.  Election Day 11-8-16 will be a day that I have my computer and TV
    turned off. I will not watch any election returns or who was elected
    President until 6:AM Wednesday Morning.
    I will say my rosary and watch videos and hope for the best Wednesday
    Morning.
    This is the most strenuous election cycle I ever been through except the
    1964 Presidential Election.  It proves that our country is completely controlled
    by the Jєωs and secret societies. We truly have a reign of satanic evil now
    ruling.
     

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    Immediate results of a Trump or Clinton victory on Nov 8th....
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  • Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
    In the state I now live in there is no going to the precinct to vote except the
    county building 30 miles away. I have to vote by mail and cast my vote by
    mail.  Election Day 11-8-16 will be a day that I have my computer and TV
    turned off. I will not watch any election returns or who was elected
    President until 6:AM Wednesday Morning.
    I will say my rosary and watch videos and hope for the best Wednesday
    Morning.
    This is the most strenuous election cycle I ever been through except the
    1964 Presidential Election.  It proves that our country is completely controlled
    by the Jєωs and secret societies. We truly have a reign of satanic evil now
    ruling.
     


    Excellent idea! Be sure you will have whatever you need at home so you won't have to go to the store on Wed. or even Thru. fearing there might be civil unrest whoever wins.  
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    Immediate results of a Trump or Clinton victory on Nov 8th....
    « Reply #5 on: November 05, 2016, 01:45:14 PM »
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    One thing I have learned in my half-century of life, though, is to never underestimate people's natural tendency toward intertia, or in this case, torpor.  Look how the North Africans just gradually accepted the replacement of Christianity with Islam. Or the peoples of Northern Europe the substitution of the Catholic Church with Lutheranism and Anglicanism.  Or so many different nations the acceptance of dictatorial and/or Communist regimes. Or the replacement of Catholicism with a liberal pirate "church".  Most people just don't stand up and fight when it comes right down to it. They talk big around the water cooler on their coffee break, but when the rubber hits the road they're nowhere to be found.

    I guess most of us are like that too. We're just trying to get by. If things don't get too bad too fast, we'll just simply adapt, like the frog in the boiling water.

    I think some hotheads will be out shouting and maybe even smashing and burning a few things, but I can't see a cινιℓ ωαr breaking out. That would involve turning off the TV, putting down the beer or the hash pipe, and getting off the sofa. Perhaps I underestimate my own people, but I just can't imagine us getting excited enough about anything except the Super Bowl or the latest X-box release to actually get up off our fat behinds and do something.


    Excellent analysis!  I would strongly tend to agree.

    Aside from the mass inertia and cognitive dissonance created by so many years of bread and circuses, the still greater -- infinitely greater -- tragedy is the fire of hell in the next world replacing the slow boiling pot of water in this world.

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    Immediate results of a Trump or Clinton victory on Nov 8th....
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    I think we should join together in prayer if we had a true Pope he might even declare all Catholics to unite in prayer for help from Heaven.  However, the so-called pope today would never come out with that request.  


    I'm sure Frank favors Hillary.  In his botched eyes, it's hard to top the "evil" of rejecting wetback criminals.

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    Immediate results of a Trump or Clinton victory on Nov 8th....
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    In the state I now live in there is no going to the precinct to vote except the
    county building 30 miles away. I have to vote by mail and cast my vote by
    mail.  Election Day 11-8-16 will be a day that I have my computer and TV
    turned off. I will not watch any election returns or who was elected
    President until 6:AM Wednesday Morning.
    I will say my rosary and watch videos and hope for the best Wednesday
    Morning.
    This is the most strenuous election cycle I ever been through except the
    1964 Presidential Election.  It proves that our country is completely controlled
    by the Jєωs and secret societies. We truly have a reign of satanic evil now
    ruling.
     


    Excellent idea! Be sure you will have whatever you need at home so you won't have to go to the store on Wed. or even Thru. fearing there might be civil unrest whoever wins.  


    Yes--water, canned goods, buckshot, 30-30 ammo, pistol ammo, etc.  I'm good for a few days, maybe a couple of weeks.  I wish I was better prepared and had a better bug-out plan.


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    Immediate results of a Trump or Clinton victory on Nov 8th....
    « Reply #8 on: November 05, 2016, 05:37:07 PM »
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    never underestimate people's natural tendency toward intertia, or in this case, torpor.  Look how the North Africans just gradually accepted the replacement of Christianity with Islam. Or the peoples of Northern Europe the substitution of the Catholic Church with Lutheranism and Anglicanism.  Or so many different nations the acceptance of dictatorial and/or Communist regimes. Or the replacement of Catholicism with a liberal pirate "church".  Most people just don't stand up and fight when it comes right down to it. They talk big around the water cooler on their coffee break, but when the rubber hits the road they're nowhere to be found.

    I guess most of us are like that too. We're just trying to get by. If things don't get too bad too fast, we'll just simply adapt, like the frog in the boiling water.


    This post really spoke to me. It reminded me of the crisis in the SSPX we SSPX-ers have had to deal with for the past 4 years. Where is the outrage? Where is the Resistance? Oh, there's a Resistance all right -- less than 5% of the SSPX "faithful".

    All the rest of them talk about how, "Oh, if there's ever a formal deal signed, I'm OUTTA HERE!" but it's all blather and bluster. They will just adapt, as you say. Leaving and "getting OUTTA HERE" involves too much work for them. They would be forced to spend lots of time and money, donating copious amounts of each, to set up new chapels, organize new Trad groups of Faithful from absolute scratch, and countless other tasks both large and small. I would know -- I've been doing a lot of these things for the past 4 years!

    http://www.stdominicschapel.com

    It's taken us exactly 4 years to get to where we are today. But even our group (outside San Antonio) is terribly small, and the existence of our chapel is mostly thanks to a small handful of Trad Catholics who donated time and money to the cause.

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    I personally believe chaos is going to ensue. More immediate following a Trump win and a slower, but stronger response if/when Clinton is allowed to steal the election.


    Hopefully, there will be plenty of "Charles Bronsons" out there who will fight back and not take it lying down anymore. Arm yourselves. Be vigilant.

    Trump has opened a pandora's box of truth. Many people were still asleep before he made subjects almost a household discussion. Now, people aren't afraid to speak out. This includes members of our own government, which is evidenced by the internal fighting within the FBI and other agencies. There is a coup by the Hillary camp against this republic and a counter coup by an element within the FBI, intelligence agencies and the NYPD who seek to stop her. Internal fighting will be / is transcending all sectors into the general population. The good thing is the people on Trump's side are the most armed (for we exercise the 2nd Amendment), and we'll have the backing of the those elements within government who resist coup by the Hillary camp. The scuм bags funded by George Soros who attack Trump supporters are grossly outnumbered by the gun-bearing resistance who oppose the despotic, globalist, Anti-Christ dynamic with Hillary as the poster face.

    Blessed be the Lord my God, who teacheth my hands to fight, and my fingers to war. ~ Psalms 143:1 (Douay-Rheims)

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    In the state I now live in there is no going to the precinct to vote except the
    county building 30 miles away. I have to vote by mail and cast my vote by
    mail.  Election Day 11-8-16 will be a day that I have my computer and TV
    turned off. I will not watch any election returns or who was elected
    President until 6:AM Wednesday Morning.
    I will say my rosary and watch videos and hope for the best Wednesday
    Morning.
    This is the most strenuous election cycle I ever been through except the
    1964 Presidential Election.  It proves that our country is completely controlled
    by the Jєωs and secret societies. We truly have a reign of satanic evil now
    ruling.
     


    Excellent idea! Be sure you will have whatever you need at home so you won't have to go to the store on Wed. or even Thru. fearing there might be civil unrest whoever wins.  


    I live a small town with a population of 200. Our one and only food truck
    that supplies the one and only grocery store comes on Monday.
    People here knows what is coming. The state I live is an open and
    carry meaning they own guns.


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    I believe this bloody cινιℓ ωαr will be based on morality. No, this type of "civil" war will be more like an attempted revolution based on a socio-economic myth blended with an equal amount of "racism" and religious intolerance.

    Of course it might be under the veneer of "morality", but that's nothing new. All wars in recoreded history have all about "morality", just about every act of aggression or invasion has begun under the pretext of morality.

    "Oh, we're just trying to save those poor people from their "evil" leaders" or " We need to bomb the crap out of all those people for their own good so we can establish a true "democracy".

    Nah, all wars have been instigated over the same crap. It's all My "morality" over your morality. And justice will be served.

    But like Goering once said, it's mere "victors justice" over the pretext of the "moral" high ground.


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    One thing I have learned in my half-century of life, though, is to never underestimate people's natural tendency toward intertia, or in this case, torpor.
    I think what it is, the masses are weak and stupid to an extent. They are looking for a strong lead, like always, they need something or someone to rally behind. And they have that in Trump, who's probably not the the most morally respectable guy, but the other alternative is certain disaster and doom for a huge demographic in this country. He's like their last chance to fight back. Like the Ron Paul people said four yrs ago, "the last solution to peaceful revolution".

    But there are no "peaceful" revolutions, the only real  change comes with the shedding of blood. The Crucifixion is the ultimate example of that.


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    ook how the North Africans just gradually accepted the replacement of Christianity with Islam
    And with the help of the sight at being at the end of Mohamed's sword. You only gradually "accept" something at the threat of violent repruccusions if you don't.It's not man's nature to accept things totally foreign that are thrusted upon him.

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    Or the peoples of Northern Europe the substitution of the Catholic Church with Lutheranism and Anglicanism
    Again, that was the behest and threat from their monarchies and leaders. the Protestant revolt was defintely more of a political/geographical issue and continental power shift than the delusions of some drunken fat German monk.

     
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    Or so many different nations the acceptance of dictatorial and/or Communist regimes
    Revolutions throught the barrel of a gun, not some passive "acceptance" by the masses  over the course of time.

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    Or the replacement of Catholicism with a liberal pirate "church"
    Perfect example of an absolute power structure when abuse  is handed down from the top. what then is your recourse? schism? Yes, more "acceptance " at the threat of banishment or excommunication, not what the masses of Catholics were in the position ot readily accept and go along with. You were either on board with the commie tenents of VII or you were "outside the Church" and in danger of losing your salvation. In other words, going to hell. Some "choice" eh?


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    Most people just don't stand up and fight when it comes right down to it. They talk big around the water cooler on their coffee break, but when the rubber hits the road they're nowhere to be found
    Becuase most people are mere lemmings and cowards. But they do know what's going on and know there are serious repercussions for talking or acting out against the agressive liberal/leftist agenda. That's why like I said, they need a strong lead they can get behind and feel protected by, otherwise, they'll just sit back and accept their fate.

    Like all the examples of the peoples you gave above.

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    Immediate results of a Trump or Clinton victory on Nov 8th....
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    I personally believe chaos is going to ensue.
    Of course. The U.S. is based on erroneous principles, and a small error in principles is a giant error in consequences  (Parvus error in principio, magnus est in fine.).
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