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Offline Matto

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« on: May 24, 2013, 02:40:46 PM »
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  • I have noticed that recently, very few people are ignoring anyone. I remember a couple of years ago there were lots of ignores and some people would even have double digit ignores, but now nearly everyone has zero ignores. I wonder why.
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    « Reply #1 on: May 24, 2013, 02:43:05 PM »
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  • I think lots of people still ignore others, it just doesn't show people's ignore counts anymore. I tried ignoring someone, it worked, but it still sais they have zero ignores.

    I'm guessing the "ignore count" took up too much data space so Matthew had to remove it.
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    « Reply #2 on: May 24, 2013, 02:47:54 PM »
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  • Quote from: Telesphorus
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    I have noticed that recently, very few people are ignoring anyone. I remember a couple of years ago there were lots of ignores and some people would even have double digit ignores, but now nearly everyone has zero ignores. I wonder why.


    There were duplicate accounts used to ignore, as well as people who joined simply to ignore posters.

    The reputation system is a much simpler way to denigrate someone.

    Although since the total negative reputation points are no longer tabulated, the motivation of some people to systematically down rate has seemed to subside.


    Tele, leave the "I'm more than just a member around here, so I can best answer this" to the Moderator, who actually knows what he's talking about.

    1. No there was never a rash of duplicate accounts used to ignore people. As the moderator, I always got to see a list of who was ignoring a given person. They were all members who frequently posted, sorry to disappoint you.

    2. I have cleared out the Ignores database from time to time, to speed things up when the site was having server-use issues.

    3. I think I disabled the tabulation of ignores as well -- so even if 5 people ignore John Doe, it will still say "Ignores: 0" because filling that number in requires a database lookup. Database lookups are exactly what I'm trying to minimize.

    4. If you give someone a thumbs-up or thumbs-down, it immediately impacts their (permanent) reputation score. What I delete from time-to-time are the votes themselves -- which means that older posts will show 0 thumbs up/down even if they received 20 votes "back in their day".

    But deleting old votes doesn't do much, since the benefit/damage has already been awarded to the target member's Rep score.

    5. By clearing out the votes from time to time, it just affects your ability to give someone thumbs up/down (since, if you recall, you can only be 20% of a person's total upvotes and 25% of their total downvotes)

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    « Reply #3 on: May 24, 2013, 02:49:43 PM »
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  • I recall a poster that never posted being banned and suddenly a whole group of ignores went away.

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    « Reply #4 on: May 24, 2013, 02:50:27 PM »
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    3. I think I disabled the tabulation of ignores as well -- so even if 5 people ignore John Doe, it will still say "Ignores: 0" because filling that number in requires a database lookup. Database lookups are exactly what I'm trying to minimize.

    OK so people are still ignoring each other, but they are no longer counted. Thanks for explaining that.  :dancing-banana:
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    « Reply #5 on: May 24, 2013, 02:51:41 PM »
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    I recall a poster that never posted being banned and suddenly a whole group of ignores went away.


    I used to clear out ignores of banned users. Nowadays, the ignores get cleared out frequently, and the system isn't used as much.

    If I catch someone doing something like you describe, I would indeed delete all their ignores.

    Nice to see that the system "works", huh!

    You're just proving that there's nothing to worry about -- the Mod caught them, and dealt with it properly.

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    « Reply #6 on: May 24, 2013, 02:53:13 PM »
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    3. I think I disabled the tabulation of ignores as well -- so even if 5 people ignore John Doe, it will still say "Ignores: 0" because filling that number in requires a database lookup. Database lookups are exactly what I'm trying to minimize.

    OK so people are still ignoring each other, but they are no longer counted. Thanks for explaining that.  :dancing-banana:


    Yes, right now there are a total of 9 ignores in the system, but only 6 people are doing the ignoring.

    Like I said, it's not used as much these days.
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    « Reply #7 on: May 24, 2013, 05:50:23 PM »
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    I suppose it's a feature that has some value, but certainly the
    tabulation of 'ignores' is not worth consuming system resources.  Still,
    there are members who act as though they're in control of some
    awesome power by clicking that red button.  Whatever.  

    The concept of some group of members conspiring to 'ignore' another
    particular member hearkens back to the early days of Modernism, when
    that was how the Modernists would defend themselves against
    someone who was an effective opponent.  Anyone who fought well
    against the Grand Sewer of All Heresies could be opposed by this
    method, described in Pascendi, whereby the Modernists would make a
    circle around him, turn their backs to him, and continue their
    conversations with each other all the while ignoring the guy standing in
    the center of the circle.

    It was a kind of "shunning" but Modernists would never use a term that
    implies they practice a thing that the Omish do, for Modernists want no
    truck with such a virulent anti-modern cult as that!

    This doesn't mean that the 'ignore' feature on CI is inherently
    Modernist, or that any CI member who PMs others to say "Hey, let's all
    put Joe on IGNORE!" is thereby being a Modernist.  But it is a fact of
    history that this is what the Modernists did.  They also put their pants
    on one leg at a time, and at least sometimes ate breakfast. IYKWIM.

    I find it humorous to see a member today say things like "Let's see
    here, it's that red button up there, isn't it? Yes. There we go. You're
    now being ignored," as though that's supposed to be impressive or
    something. As though they think they're going to change the 'ignored'
    member's behavior. Funny thing is, in California, civil courts might be
    prone to classify that as "violence."  ...........  If you click the red
    button and don't talk about it, it would be nothing, but if it can be
    shown that you touched someone's possession with the intention of
    controlling their behavior, that is what "violence" is in the People's
    Republic of California. All that would be left is to prove that the 'ignore'
    feature touches a member's possession, like his "right" to have his
    posts seen by all the other members.  Well, maybe that's a bit of a
    stretch.  




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