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Offline PG

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Re: If CathInfo.com began requiring true First and Last Names, I would...
« Reply #15 on: March 04, 2018, 06:03:31 PM »
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    • Matthew - do you, being a computer guy, know of a way to block results of a name search in google from coming up when isolated to cathinfo posts?  It sounds possible.  I went to a job workshop, and one of the things the lady does who hires at this resource center said is go online and look up such and such person applying.  That is not to say that I would not sign up with my name if that was the only cause of concern.  I actually think I would give my first and last name.  And, if you have a nosy boss like that, perhaps you are working at the wrong place anyway. 

    Also, what would happen to our past posts where we quite frankly felt free to post w/e the heck we wanted while only considering our CI credibility being at stake?  I feel quite certain that I would post differently with my full name next to every post.  And, I am not afraid of that prospective.  It could really be a good thing.  In spirit I am not far from it already.  PG are my first and last initials.  

    A solution to a boss searching the net for you is to put ones full name in small letters in a somewhat conspicuous place next to each post.  Like how about at a bottom corner of sorts.  Or, better yet, the full name could only be revealed to members in the member information section.  That sounds almost full proof.  A boss couldn't get to that, unless they join, which is like 100% unlikely.  And, a boss would actually have to do a lot of digging to get results anyways.  And, unlike facebook, CI would not be demanding a current photo.  I think that the manager internet search wouldn't be that big of a problem.  
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    Re: If CathInfo.com began requiring true First and Last Names, I would...
    « Reply #16 on: March 04, 2018, 06:06:55 PM »
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    • Even though the zionists on the web know who everybody is with their IP addresses et al, it would be difficult to work, as an application for a job (along with Homeland Security background check) now includes a perfunctory Google search of your name. i would have to opt out.
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    Re: If CathInfo.com began requiring true First and Last Names, I would...
    « Reply #17 on: March 04, 2018, 06:16:25 PM »
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    • One other thing to consider, when you apply for a job, a boss is not allowed to ask about ones religion(unless you are a christian).  And, being that there is no picture there, and surely there are other people with the same name as you, it would be as stretch for an employer to jump to the conclusion that such and such forum poster is the same as the person who works for them.  As long as you do not provide your geographical location, a full name does not sound that bad.  And, if you work at such a public place of employment, how likely are you to be talking about cathinfo subjects, to where your coworkers would know by the subject matter that such and such member is the person who works with you?  For those who have unusual names with unusual spellings, you are not in the advantage.   But, for those whose name is john smith, you have nothing to worry about.  I feel pretty confident in saying I would provide my full name.

    Seanjohnson, thanks for that bishop williamson link.  He did a great job of answering.  "Either be a man and do not speak on grave subjects in public, or be a man and when you speak about grave matters in public, stand by it fully with your full name, and especially on the internet."  
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    Re: If CathInfo.com began requiring true First and Last Names, I would...
    « Reply #18 on: March 04, 2018, 06:23:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on March 04, 2018, 06:02:14 PM
    Seeing as it is Sunday...

    Here are the reasons Bishop Williamson gives for posting in your own name (or not posting at all), beginning at 16:35

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    Until this time, I posted as "Seraphim."

    The next day, I asked Matthew to attach my real name to all my posts.

    As regards some of the reasons given for remaining anonymous (e.g., exposing yourself to harassment; etc), it is admittedly true.

    But if you really believe what you are posting is the truth, then it seems to me that that is worth absorbing a bit of artillery for, and the willingness to do so would then be pleasing to God (the only thing that really matters).

    There is a price to pay for being a public truth-teller (lost friendships, social alienation, seeing your name dragged through the mud by some of your opponents; etc.), but I should think myself very low if I were to compromise my integrity and not tell the truth for fear of those repercussions (or for fear of those repercussions, fail to attach my name to my own opinions).

    Believe it or not, a District official once told me that he respected me for posting in my own name (while objecting to nearly everything I say).

    No doubt, he found it convenient for tracking purposes.

    But at the same time, all these years later, I have still not been banned from my SSPX chapel (i.e., to be respected by your adversary counts for something), for which I am grateful.

    In any case, if Mossad hit squads were going to take me and Matthew out, they sure are taking their time.

    Bishop Williamson nailed it: Either put your name to what you say, or don't say it at all.

    Our Lord needs men willing to stand up against the rise of the tide.

    Without that, not much is possible: God hates a coward.

    As an afterthought, it occurs to me that all the writers I most respect attach their names to what they write.
    I don't know that Sean Johnson is your real name. It would be helpful if you'd care to upload a pic of yourself with something recently dated and a pic of your driver's license.

    I've always skimmed over your posts (both as Sean Johnson and as Seraphim) so I can't confirm if you post stuff that might cause you harassment or worse.

    If Bishop Williamson is addressing his answer to SSPX laity who fear reprisals from the Menzingen crowd over Catholic issues, then he may have a point. I'm not talking about protection from harassment from SSPX people. I'm not an SSPX member.

    If he says that you should knowingly put yourself in harm's way he's wrong about that. He's calling the early Christians cowards, who lived in catacombs. Why do Churchmen have secret meetings behind closed doors? If I picked my brain I could come up with lots of other examples such as these.

    Also Williamson is a man of establishment education and has a strong support network. Most Americans are within 3 weeks of homelessness.

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    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    Re: If CathInfo.com began requiring true First and Last Names, I would...
    « Reply #19 on: March 04, 2018, 06:26:36 PM »
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    • Another idea would be to not moderate the anonymous subforum, as was the case when you first started it. Those wanting to post under their real names could have the forum and those of us not wanting to could use the anonymous subforum.
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    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    Re: If CathInfo.com began requiring true First and Last Names, I would...
    « Reply #20 on: March 04, 2018, 06:36:12 PM »
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    • Rum - +Williamson in the video specifically spoke in favor of actions similar to what the early christians did.  He said either be a man and decline from such discourse(catecombs), meaning do not get sucked into the controversy unwillingly(on the fence).  Or, be a man and meet the controversy "head on", which in this context means do not be anonymous.  

    For such an on the spot new question, +Williamsons response was excellent.  
    Quote from: rum on March 04, 2018, 06:26:36 PM
    Another idea would be to not moderate the anonymous subforum, as was the case when you first started it. Those wanting to post under their real names could have the forum and those of us not wanting to could use the anonymous subforum.

    The anonymous forum somewhat solves these concerns.  At worst, those craving interaction for the sake of interaction still would have the anonymous forum.  That may be good or it may be not be good.  I couldn't say.
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    Re: If CathInfo.com began requiring true First and Last Names, I would...
    « Reply #21 on: March 04, 2018, 06:49:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: rum on March 04, 2018, 06:23:01 PM
    I don't know that Sean Johnson is your real name. It would be helpful if you'd care to upload a pic of yourself with something recently dated and a pic of your driver's license.

    I've always skimmed over your posts (both as Sean Johnson and as Seraphim) so I can't confirm if you post stuff that might cause you harassment or worse.
    We'd also like to see a pdf of your birth certificate, social security card, DD Form 214 (if you served in the armed forces), and your last three income tax returns.  Please include other relevant information such as your mother's maiden name, bank account numbers, and your home address and phone number.

    I would no longer be a member of CathInfo.  My name really is TKGS for the purpose of Catholic internet forums and most people I personally know who visit internet forums, know that I am TKGS.  I don't need strangers having my legal name in order to use it for who knows what in this God-hating world.  

    Does this question have anything to do with the lawsuit involving a former teacher?
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    « Reply #22 on: March 04, 2018, 07:17:52 PM »
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    • I've regularly given my real name out here.  Ladislaus is simply the Latin form of my first name ... Laszlo.
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    Re: If CathInfo.com began requiring true First and Last Names, I would...
    « Reply #23 on: March 04, 2018, 07:26:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cantarella on March 04, 2018, 05:31:49 PM
    Refuse and leave CathInfo
    How about, Refuse, Leave Cathinfo... and Start-up another trad forum?
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    Re: If CathInfo.com began requiring true First and Last Names, I would...
    « Reply #24 on: March 04, 2018, 07:26:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: SeanJohnson on March 04, 2018, 06:02:14 PM
    Bishop Williamson nailed it: Either put your name to what you say, or don't say it at all.

    Without that, not much is possible: God hates a coward.

    Be ye therefore wise as serpents and simple as doves. ~ Matthew 10:16

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    Re: If CathInfo.com began requiring true First and Last Names, I would...
    « Reply #25 on: March 04, 2018, 08:15:03 PM »
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    • My concern is having all of our previous posts accessible by a member search.  And, I do not know if I can make private that function of my profile.  I would provide my full name, so long as the history of our posts cannot be revealed to even members.  I see that as a way to dig for dirt on members of CI.  It would take a lot more/too much work to get dirt on people without access to members past posts on their member page, making it not practical.  So, if that function is removed, then I cannot see any problem with providing my first and last name, despite the fact that I have posted with greater liberty in the past when full name not required.  Perhaps for posts that predate this new full name rule, you leave the posts without first and last name, in case they just so happen to come up in a search.  I think this will affect everyone's behavior, and for the better.  So, with these concerns met, I can say I will provide my first and last name.  
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    Re: If CathInfo.com began requiring true First and Last Names, I would...
    « Reply #26 on: March 04, 2018, 08:34:18 PM »
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    • I think that would be reasonable (assuming this hypothetical occurred, and for whatever reason I decided to start requiring everyone's first and last name)

    You bring up a good point -- past posts were made with the understanding that you were posting with a pseudonym, so it would be downright evil to suddenly place your full name next to THOSE posts.

    Also, I don't see any reason (even from the perspective of the Sean Johnsons of the world) to make that full name GOOGLE SEARCHABLE, or in plain text. What would be the point of that, except to give future employers a chance to easily discover, and then have a problem with, some of your political/world views?

    There are ways to generate an image out of a piece of text, so computers can't read it but people can. I think I would probably use some kind of tool like that to display the first/last name data, if it ever came to that.
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    « Reply #27 on: March 04, 2018, 08:49:31 PM »
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    • I think requiring others to do this on the world wide web where crazies abound is irresponsible at best.  
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    Re: If CathInfo.com began requiring true First and Last Names, I would...
    « Reply #28 on: March 04, 2018, 08:51:47 PM »
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    • Matthew of all people should know what happens when (crazy) people who disagree with you also happen to have your full name and a tidbit or two to confirm who you are.

    He's had someone attempt to get him fired and on the radar of every public official in our area. Fortunately, that person didn't know his last name. So, I can only presume those he contacted wrote him off as nuts.
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    Re: If CathInfo.com began requiring true First and Last Names, I would...
    « Reply #29 on: March 04, 2018, 08:53:04 PM »
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    • Quote from: MaterDominici on March 04, 2018, 08:51:47 PM
    Matthew of all people should know what happens when (crazy) people who disagree with you also happen to have your full name and a tidbit or two to confirm who you are.

    He's had someone attempt to get him fired and on the radar of every public official in our area. Fortunately, that person didn't know his last name. So, I can only presume those he contacted wrote him off as nuts.
    Then why would he even consider this?  Unless he really isn't considering this and is using this poll to make a point.
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